trump calls for "termination" of U.S. Constitution in order to overturn a free and fair election

Wow, an election denier. Don Lemon said that was a bad thing. I’m so confused.

I'm not denying he won the electoral college. Never did.

But he clearly had help from his Daddy Dom Putin.

I'm not denying he won the electoral college. Never did.

But he clearly had help from his Daddy Dom Putin. Originally Posted by tommy156

let's see if you can prove that. there is no evidence of direct contact with the Trump campaign and Russia. in fact, the Mueller report proves there wasn't. but you knew that, right?

Paul Manafort was acting as a liaison AKA lieutenant for the Trump administration, and contacted his Russian counterpart Kilimnik about Russian assistance. In addition Papadopoulos claimed to have contacts with Russia and was caught also. Both of these men were found guilty in the United States court of law for improprieties relating to the 2016 election.

They had their day in court and they were found guilty. Mueller pointed the finger at several other additional people who likely were engaged in nefarious Russian connections. Just because Fox News says it was proven not to be true doesn't make it untrue. It's funny how you folks on the right consider that to be a foregone conclusion and that the Mueller report was a nothing. Literally he outlined a multitude of Russian oligarchs and several domestic folks not to disinclude the likes of Rudy Giuliani as having had interactions with Russia pre- election.

The last time I checked, the way you get elected president is by getting domestic votes. What in the fucking world would somebody need to go to Russia for if you're trying to get Americans to vote for you. The only answer is it's either about money or influence.

Paul Manafort was acting as a liaison AKA lieutenant for the Trump administration, and contacted his Russian counterpart Kilimnik about Russian assistance. In addition Papadopoulos claimed to have contacts with Russia and was caught also. Both of these men were found guilty in the United States court of law for improprieties relating to the 2016 election.

They had their day in court and they were found guilty. Mueller pointed the finger at several other additional people who likely were engaged in nefarious Russian connections. Just because Fox News says it was proven not to be true doesn't make it untrue. It's funny how you folks on the right consider that to be a foregone conclusion and that the Mueller report was a nothing. Literally he outlined a multitude of Russian oligarchs and several domestic folks not to disinclude the likes of Rudy Giuliani as having had interactions with Russia pre- election.

The last time I checked, the way you get elected president is by getting domestic votes. What in the fucking world would somebody need to go to Russia for if you're trying to get Americans to vote for you. The only answer is it's either about money or influence. Originally Posted by eyecu2

Boom 💥

Are people taking the stance that the Biden story was killed and never saw the light of day? It sounds like it. The story ran, the link has been posted. Twitter, right or wrong, removed links to the story and comments about it from it's feed. Originally Posted by String Nutts

Are you taking the stance that the story was not suppressed by twitter, Facebook, the mainstream media, etc?

Because it was. Which was blatant censorship at the behest of Senile Biden and other Democrat officials

And 17% of the voters said if it hadn't been suppressed and they knew about the story, they would NOT have voted for Senile Biden thereby changing the election. That is a fact no one can deny. A huge fraud was perpetrated on the American public to steal an election

As to President Trump, he raises good questions but as he sometime does, he did not elucidate them in a clear manner. The real question is what is the remedy for fraud in elections? Not just for President Trump, but for any federal election?

let's see if you can prove that. there is no evidence of direct contact with the Trump campaign and Russia. in fact, the Mueller report proves there wasn't. but you knew that, right? Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Of course they SHOULD know that - but they are in denial. Some of them still live and breathe the Clinton arranged Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Some people are so dumb and foolish, they still don't understand that the Mueller report was a big nothing burger.

It's pathetic on one hand, but fun on the other to watch people make fools of themselves talking about 2016 and the Russia Hoax and Mueller

The same folks jumping ugly about 3 Facebook comments now aren’t worried about the FBI strong arming media outlets to censor stories to their liking. Truth be told, the arm didn’t have to be that strong since the executives were already leftist wackjobs.

Have all those ‘present and former intelligence officials’ who penned the letter claiming it was all Russian disinformation apologized yet?

None of that is relevant to the topic. Which is Trump's call to terminate the constitution. It's not ineloquent, or a good question that was poorly elucidated. It's something that has zero basis in law.

And that's not my learned legal opinion.
That comes from berry's favorite Democratic leaning constitutional mind Jonathan Turley.

Kudos on the whattaboutisms though, gentlemen.

Stay on topic, gentlemen. This has nothing to do with Biden or Twitter.

Your boy just called for the "termination" of the U.S. Constitution so he can overturn a free and fair election (from TWO YEARS ago). You know, the document he swore to defend and uphold - he now wants to terminate it. If you can't see how big of a problem that is for your cult, I can't explain it to you.

He's a willing traitor to the United States of America. It's an undeniable fact, and goes back to at least 2015. Many of us have known this all along. Time for the rest of you to man up and admit it. Long past time, actually.

Of course they SHOULD know that [there is no evidence of direct contact with the Trump campaign and Russia. in fact, the Mueller report proves there wasn't. ] - but they are in denial. Some of them still live and breathe the Clinton arranged Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. Some people are so dumb and foolish, they still don't understand that the Mueller report was a big nothing burger.

It's pathetic on one hand, but fun on the other to watch people make fools of themselves talking about 2016 and the Russia Hoax and Mueller Originally Posted by berryberry

Did you miss eyecu2's post?

In both linked reports, just search for Manafort

Let me add some specifics:



https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...rt_volume5.pdf

III. (U) COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CONCERNS
A. (U) Paul Manafort
1. (U) Introduction and Findings
(U) Paul Manafort is a former lobbyist and political consultant with ties to numerous
foreign politicians and businessmen, most notably in Russia and Ukraine. In March 2016,
Manafortjoined the Trump Campaign as convention manager. By May 2016, then-Candidate
Trump officially elevated Manafort to be the Campaign's chairman and chief strategist. On
August 19, 2016, following press articles related to his past-work in Ukraine for a pro-Russia
political party h~aded by former Ukrainian President Viktor Y anukovych, Manafort resigned
from the Trump Campaign.

~~~~~~~~~~~~


(U) Under Deripaska's guidance, Manafort outlined for Deripaska and Rothschild a
strategy for a political influence campaign in Ukraine. Manafort referred to this influence
campaign as "our program."113Manafort described how the program would be a broad system
for influence with distinct political, lobbying, communications, and legal components.114The
Ukraine program was, according to Manafort's memorandum, undertaken "pursuant to the
directivesofMr. Deripaska" and in supportof"our mutual friend in Ukraine,"115almost
certainly a reference to Rinat Akhmetov, to whom Deripaska had previously introduced
Manafort and his firm, Davis Manafort Partners.116Akhmetov, Ukraine's richest oligarch, was
the primary backerofYanukovych and maintained close ties to Deripaska and other Russian
government and organized crime figures.117Akhmetov and other oligarchs in Ukraine began
funding Manafort's work there, while Deripaska provided Manafort other funding and strategic
guidance as partofa broader influence campaign.118
(U) Manafort's objective was to avoid future events like the Orange Revolution. Todo
this, Manafort sought to sway the political directionofUkraine to benefit thePoRwithout the
heavy-handed tactics that Russia and Deripaska had used in 2004.119This involved a strategy to
"subtly influence the perceptions"ofWestern governments and create "an acceptable
explanation for actions by governments not totally in concert with Western thinking."120
Manafort outlined this goal in a 2005 memorandum to Deripaska and Rothschild:
113
114(U)/,i.
115Ibid.
116SCOReport,Vol. I, p. 132;see alsoSSCI Transcriptofthe Interview with Bo Denysyk, June 12, 2018,
p.1....
(U)The exact funding structure at this time1sunc ear, buty 2005, and proceeding thereafter, Manafort made
millionsofdollars from Akhmetov, Deripaska, and other oligarchs.


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COMMITTEE SENSITIVE-RUSSIA INVESTIGATION ONLY
(U) The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaignat;tdproximity to
Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligenceservicesto exert influence over, and
acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's high-
level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the
Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associatesofOleg Deripaska,
represented a grave counterintelligencethreat.
Hack and Leak
(U) The Committee found that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian
effort to hack computer networks and accounts affiliated with the Democratic Party and leak
information damaging to Hillary Clinton and her campaign for president. Moscow's intent was
to harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the
Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the
U.S. democratic process.




~~~~~~~~~~


(U) Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his
time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska,
and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly
share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik.


~~~~~~~~~~


After the election, Manafort continued to coordinate with
Russian persons, particularly Kilimnik and other individuals close to Deripaska, in an effort to
undertake activities on their behalf. Manafort worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on
narratives that sou ht to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in.the2016 U.S.
election


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Mueller report:


https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco...73816/download


Summer 2016.Russian outreach to the Trump Campaign continued into the summer of
2016, as candidate Trump was becoming the presumptive Republican nominee for President. On
June 9, 2016, for example, aRussian lawyer met with senior TrumpCampaign officials Donald
Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and campaign chairman Paul Manafort todeliver what the email
proposingthemeetinghaddescribedas“officialdocumentsandinformationthatwould
incriminate Hillary.”The materials were offered to Trump Jr. as “part of Russia and its
government’s support for Mr. Trump.”The written communications setting up the meeting
showed that the Campaign anticipated receiving information fromRussia that could assist
candidate Trump’s electoral prospects, but the Russian lawyer’spresentation did not provide such
information.
Days after the June 9meeting, on June 14, 2016, a cybersecurity firm and the DNC
announced that Russian government hackers had infiltrated the DNC and obtained access to
opposition research on candidate Trump, among other documents.

Like how berry, chizzy, devo, Waco are trying to take over the thread. It's about tRump wanting to throw out the Constitution and be declared president. You guys can keep your posts about Biden and hunter's laptop on your threads... you sure post enough about that on your own.

So why don't you tell us why it's acceptable for your lord the treasonist tangerine turd to want to throw out the Constitution and name him president and why you support this treasonist idea.

Paul Manafort was acting as a liaison AKA lieutenant for the Trump administration, and contacted his Russian counterpart Kilimnik about Russian assistance. In addition Papadopoulos claimed to have contacts with Russia and was caught also. Both of these men were found guilty in the United States court of law for improprieties relating to the 2016 election.

They had their day in court and they were found guilty. Mueller pointed the finger at several other additional people who likely were engaged in nefarious Russian connections. Just because Fox News says it was proven not to be true doesn't make it untrue. It's funny how you folks on the right consider that to be a foregone conclusion and that the Mueller report was a nothing. Literally he outlined a multitude of Russian oligarchs and several domestic folks not to disinclude the likes of Rudy Giuliani as having had interactions with Russia pre- election.

The last time I checked, the way you get elected president is by getting domestic votes. What in the fucking world would somebody need to go to Russia for if you're trying to get Americans to vote for you. The only answer is it's either about money or influence. Originally Posted by eyecu2

Yep. People like to comment on the Mueller report, when they haven't read the Mueller report. It also contained eleven examples of Trump obstructing justice.

Like how berry, chizzy, devo, Waco are trying to take over the thread. It's about tRump wanting to throw out the Constitution and be declared president. You guys can keep your posts about Biden and hunter's laptop on your threads... you sure post enough about that on your own.

So why don't you tell us why it's acceptable for your lord the treasonist tangerine turd to want to throw out the Constitution and name him president and why you support this treasonist idea. Originally Posted by rmg_35

They won't, and can't, answer a direct question like that. It's one of the main tenets of trumpism: deflect, obstruct, lie and deny. Whataboutism is literally all they have.

They won't, and can't, answer a direct question like that. It's one of the main tenets of trumpism: deflect, obstruct, lie and deny. Whataboutism is literally all they have. Originally Posted by tommy156

Yea, in my experience they're generally allergic to questions that would reveal the truth about their hero and his cult. They emulate their leader in this regard.