ohh SNAP! The masks don't work....

Geez not this bullshit again. Masks do work, try sneezing with a mask on and then without. See all that stuff that sprays everywhere without a mask. People also spit a little when conversing and this is trapped by the mask. No the mask doesn't catch the virus itself, but the virus doesn't just float around by itself like little virus flakes.

No one ever said you can't get covid with the vaccine, it definitely stopped the severe symptoms in most people and transmission rate was lessened. With vaccine you are contagious for far less time, a matter of hours, not days.

No statistical evidence has shown that more have died with the vaccine. Studies have looked at those types of deaths that are suspect and it is statistically insignificant. Even if a few died from the vaccine, many millions of lives were saved. Possibly up to 40-50 million Americans alone. Originally Posted by royamcr

Bambino has already pointed out how wrong you are about 2 of the points you made in this post. You are also wrong when you said "No one ever said you can't get covid with the vaccine." President Biden said you can't get covid with the vaccines.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/3337872...gh-infections/

Your whole post is full of misinformation.

How come in the past during Flu Season Masks were never recommended or even suggested for the General Public? Originally Posted by Levianon17

Maybe because we have long had vaccines for the flu and it isn't that deadly. Sure people die from it, usually older people that are hard headed and not get vaccinated or otherwise immunocompromised.

Notice also how the flu in the last couple years kinda disappeared. Masks, ultra cleaning everything, and people working from home instead of offices all contributed to that. It didn't go away, just the flu spread was suppressed. Proof that mitigation efforts work. We don't wear masks for flu because deadly symptoms are rare.

..Sure people die from it, usually older people that are hard headed and not get vaccinated or otherwise immunocompromised.... Originally Posted by royamcr

How many?

..Notice also how the flu in the last couple years kinda disappeared.. Originally Posted by royamcr

Yet you think it is because people used Clorox wipes?!?

..We don't wear masks for flu because deadly symptoms are rare. Originally Posted by royamcr

According to what? When you attempt to answer the first question, I mean if you even do, you might be surprised to learn that there is no real flu death number. You might try looking at the previous reporting scheme that got changed in 2020 for the covid.

...Masks do work, try sneezing with a mask on and then without... Originally Posted by royamcr

Try strapping one to your butt and farting. Let us know the results.

Simple solution. Then don’t wear one!!
. I don’t unless I’m at a business that requires one. It doesn’t kill me either way.

Flue shots are not vaccines either, and they are only partially effective . . .pretty much like the Covid shots are not a vaccine and are only partially effective.

I have been vaccinated against Measels, Mumps Rubeola, Polio and Whooping cough among other things. . . .but not against the flue or Covid-19.

Masks? If you can breathe in air through a mask, you can be=breathe in a virus. . . . Faucci said so.

ICU is correct that if you can breath air in through a mask you can breath in a virus...UNLESS you're wearing a true N95 mask properly fitted or other specialized apparati used in high risk settings. He is INCORRECT in his underlying assumption that wearing an ordinary surgical mask is meant to protect the wearer. It is NOT....it's purpose is to mitigate (not necessarily completely prevent) the spread of bacterial and viral particles in droplets which are fairly effectively blocked but surgical type masks as proven by years of use in ORs. In effect, if everyone within reasonable distance is wearing a surgical mask, you are pretty well protected against being exposed to a great enough viral load to cause infection even if you're not masked. Of course, if you are not masked, you pose a risk to others nearby should you be shedding virus. How is this so hard to understand?

So I'm not sick. So screw your idea of me wearing a mask. Have a nice frick'n day and shaddup already with your Kosmic Debris.

ICU is correct that if you can breath air in through a mask you can breath in a virus...UNLESS you're wearing a true N95 mask properly fitted or other specialized apparati used in high risk settings. He is INCORRECT in his underlying assumption that wearing an ordinary surgical mask is meant to protect the wearer. It is NOT....it's purpose is to mitigate (not necessarily completely prevent) the spread of bacterial and viral particles in droplets which are fairly effectively blocked but surgical type masks as proven by years of use in ORs. In effect, if everyone within reasonable distance is wearing a surgical mask, you are pretty well protected against being exposed to a great enough viral load to cause infection even if you're not masked. Of course, if you are not masked, you pose a risk to others nearby should you be shedding virus. How is this so hard to understand? Originally Posted by reddog1951

Try strapping one to your butt and farting. Let us know the results. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

It would contain my shart spray.

Well, let's have an intermission.

Triple masking or quad masking can be effective when done right












Let us not forget about the much vaunted KN-95 mask. Apparently you can use less of them.

^^^You ain't getting any arguments from me^^^

But I must protest that they use such instruments properly. Need to get rid of the excess

Triple masking or quad masking can be effective when done right












Let us not forget about the much vaunted KN-95 mask. Apparently you can use less of them.


Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

... Too right, mate! ... Our Aussie pretty-birds
are widely known for their right-clever uses like that.

Thanks for posting those, mate... Did you get them
from Sydney Today magazine??

... See? ... Masks really work for some people.

#### Salty

... See? ... Masks really work for some people. ... Originally Posted by Salty Again

Still looking on line to see if they are selling their used masks. Got 12 hours in so far..I'm pretty big on recycling certain things ya know...

Flue shots are not vaccines either, and they are only partially effective . . .pretty much like the Covid shots are not a vaccine and are only partially effective.

I have been vaccinated against Measels, Mumps Rubeola, Polio and Whooping cough among other things. . . .but not against the flue or Covid-19.

Masks? If you can breathe in air through a mask, you can be=breathe in a virus. . . . Faucci said so. Originally Posted by ICU 812

All true