Manchin capitulates, rather than switch.

Dems are not into partial abortion or anything like that. Not sure who ever said that was full of shit. Dems think that a reproductive rights question about a woman's pregnancy needs to be between her doctor and the mother. Not the Mother, a GOP governor or congressman.

It's insane that THAT even needed to be said out loud, but conservatives think that it's far better for a mother to struggle with a pregnancy, give birth to a child who may be severely dysfunctional or worse, so that afterwards they can tell the mother that the EBT Card and snap benefits, and shit like child care credits or housing assistance is being taken away anyway. It's funny because they don't care about babies really they just care about the politics of protecting children in the womb, and then kicking them down the street and forcing them into poverty after birth.

Maybe one of you conservatives can tell me about a program that's either current or brought forth by Republicans that help children once they're born.

Hell, R's want to end WIC and slash funding for anyone who gets food assistance...such good people. I've never heard of a single bill being presented by Rs or supported by conservatives outside of some words salad, about daycare, but...it's never materialized

We will sit back and wait while you find one program that has made it to a bill. Originally Posted by eyecu2

the dems arent into partial birth abortions eye? well my my, lets see, republicans arent so who allows it or supports it?
the far left is the democrats if I remember correctly...come on eye, dont throw that kind of bullshit

I would say it's exactly the OPPOSITE of what the D's like. I've not seen the hatred coming from anywhere but the Right. Our reps on the right, even wanted to fight in the senate, a R from Oklahoma, was ready to throw down till someone reminded him he was a senator. That's right- a fucking fight, right in the floor of the meeting.

When you are saying that hate is flowing, wouldn't you say it's the R's that are first to pick a subject and get all pissed off when they don't get what they want, and take their ball and go home= as a matter of fact, the hate flows like the dark side of the force within Darth Vader.

Hell they even held the entire country hostage while they couldn't make up their mind about anyone on their side that didn't have a black eye from all the fights they picked, or didn't pick. So when it comes to partisan politics, it's not the DEMS who are afraid of finding ways to reach across; it's the vast majority of the other side who is ready to eat their own before they let that happen. And if they cannot eat them, they just kill them politically by calling them a RINO. A RINO is anyone who would dare to try to find a compromise vs. quote a bible verse and tell the DEMS to pound sand.

Manchin was a good guy who decided the party he was in had changed, and the other side was even worse. Getting change in politics is case of "is the Devil you know, better or worse than the Devil you don't". Originally Posted by eyecu2

please show us where the dems reached across the table on anything during obama or biden. In fact good old obama stated he didnt need republicans period. God you throw the manure around lately