Some General Thoughts and Questions

WTF's Avatar
  • WTF
  • 09-20-2011, 03:30 PM
Couple things;

Your first point is not accurate In most jurisdictions only the agreement or implied agreement of sex/money needs to be established, not necessarily an actual exchange.

. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
That is correct.

Without discussing money the act itself is not illegal.
That is correct.

Without discussing money the act itself is not illegal. Originally Posted by WTF
Then you must be doin' it wrong!!!
pyramider's Avatar
But money laundering is illegal.

There are not many countries that do not report accounts and earnings. Many of the Eastern Block countries are not dependable to put savings in.

I still thinck someone has been sniffing, or possibly eating, glue.
London Rayne's Avatar
I want to see the paper and the in text citations lol. (Naomi of Eccie, 2011) lmao.

Why does everyone think they know how to run OUR business....why not just put your heels on and bend over, then you might have something to add to this board.

As for a union...would that not mean we would have to BROADCAST what we do, who we are, and how much we make? Yea...keep that crap.

I have never had to go outside of the U.S. to protect my money. I simply don't put anything in my own name...done.
See my notes, hopefully this will work.

@Chica

Implication of exchange eh? But if that never really happens in the actual session, it seems unlikely that such a thing could be established, or that LE would bother with someone who was going to give them trouble on a conviction.

But yes, if you're going to conceal your bitcoin trail it takes a small bit of setup, but it seems like that would be less effort than the screening process itself, and portions of it can be folded into that process.

The screening process is not just to protect a gal from LE, there is much more involved. Shows you do not fully understand the process. Don't anyone think that a financial process overcomes the need for screening in some manner.

@Giz

I have a suspense building first chapter, and some material for later chapters, but I'm thinking of reformatting the way it's being written entirely so I don't want to polish the first chapter.

The suspense just bores me. (Sorry, but sounds like the current news formats that spend half their time telling you what stories they will eventually run. Five minutes of buildup for a 30 second actual news piece.)

@Mme x

A legitimate concern, although there are various ways of insuring that no one feels ripped off or too worried about the exchange, a community like this being one of them.

That said, I wish I had dropped my money in it months ago, went from around a dollar to over twenty dollars before the bubble burst.

I can see it now, complaints of being shorted because of changing conversion rates, etc. Complicates a very simple cash transaction.

@Naomi

Actually that depends largely upon the Bank. You'd be correct about Swiss and certain Western European Banks that formerly had that reputation, but some banks in Russia, Eastern Europe, and the Caribbean are as described. It's just a matter of doing your homework.

Also that's exactly the paranoia I'm talking about: "Obviously you were sent here by someone." Yes, what nefarious organization sent me here to explain online currency as a possibly more secure medium of exchange? Some sinister splinter of LE with an agenda... or something. If you weren't so worried about LE this would be a much more objective conversation.

Paranoia keeps many of us safe. It heightens the senses, keeps the adrenaline flowing, flight vs. fight , all of that stuff, and of course, adds to the thrill for some.

@Alexa

Foreign bank accounts aren't really all that hard to get, people just assume that they are. Make sure to do some homework on them first though.

Most of us have limited time, limited resources, and in many cases, a lot of other responsibilities. I currently am managing for my self 6 IRA/401K accounts, 5 personal accounts at a local bank, 3 business accounts at the same bank, and 3 credit card accounts between business and personal. Cash is just simpler. Originally Posted by Tellsoftly
I think a lot of ladies here have mastered a pretty good business model. Yes, ladies whose business model is wrapped around BP or some other less 'professional' escort media may have a lot to learn, but overall, the pay to play prostitution industry as worked well with the cash model. While advertising has moved from the street corner and red lights over doorways to Al Gore's world wide web, cash still works quite well.

I will say this. If someone can create a financial scenario that provides an escort with paystubs, W2s, etc. to allow her to enter the legitimate financial markets, i.e. proof of income for car loans and home loans, and maybe even a way to show some type of work history when applying for a open market job, but of course hiding the fact that her prior career choice was not sometime normally listed on a resume, then you will have winner.

Perhaps a chapter on that in your book?
  • Laz
  • 09-21-2011, 10:44 AM
I will say this. If someone can create a financial scenario that provides an escort with paystubs, W2s, etc. to allow her to enter the legitimate financial markets, i.e. proof of income for car loans and home loans, and maybe even a way to show some type of work history when applying for a open market job, but of course hiding the fact that her prior career choice was not sometime normally listed on a resume, then you will have winner. Originally Posted by tigercat
I actually might have a solution that accomplishes that. I will not discuss it in an open forum or with anyone other than a provider but if one is interested PM me. I am not positive it is a good solution so it would need feedback from an experienced professional provider.
@London

Well, I suppose Union was the wrong word to use. Maybe organization would have been a better one. That said, I don't think I'd look too good in a pair of heels, but that may be personal bias.

@Tigercat

Fair points all, and some more sophisticated mechanisms would be needed to speed the exchange... I can't talk about it openly here, but there are actually certain black market exchanges that peg bitcoins to the dollar for more stable transactions.

Although... the setup you're talking about with W2s, paystubs, prior employment history, and a credit rating isn't that hard to set up, but requires organization. I don't want to discuss details here, and I'm a writer not a Syndicate organizer, so I'll probably never personally jump in myself. That said, if a number of workers were to collaborate, invest their money into a few small legit corps that will turn out a profit on their own, leverage references from trusted hobbyists or business partners, and file taxes via either an LLC, S-Corp, or if they prefer a partnership depending upon the size of the various businesses you purchase. There's a great deal you can do to conceal revenue stream sources, provide legit sources and references, and by the same token invest that income into other profitable ventures in both business and commodity markets. That's without going into any specifics.
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I just prefer to keep what I do here as private as possible. I don't need a group of random strangers knowing who I am and what I do. I like it being illegal, just not criminal.
I just prefer to keep what I do here as private as possible. I don't need a group of random strangers knowing who I am and what I do. I like it being illegal, just not criminal. Originally Posted by London Rayne
Understood. Some things come before privacy and LE security. That's why it doesn't surprise me that this isn't on the deepweb considering that you have to be able to have clients you can actually trust not to be dangerous or really really shady.
Wasn't Al Capone finally hung out to dry not for his violence but actually for failing to properly report his taxes?

One provider makes a crime of prostitution, two or more becomes a conspiracy or organized crime.

(Guess that means that when a gal and a guy get together, they could be charged with conspiracy to commit prostitution, where is shyster jon to explain all of this?)
Wasn't Al Capone finally hung out to dry not for his violence but actually for failing to properly report his taxes?

One provider makes a crime of prostitution, two or more becomes a conspiracy or organized crime.

(Guess that means that when a gal and a guy get together, they could be charged with conspiracy to commit prostitution, where is shyster jon to explain all of this?) Originally Posted by tigercat
Al Capone was caught out for tax evasion, IRS cases of Tax evasion and Rico cases (specifically designed by Blakey, but with a few weak points) are the two weapons most often used organized crime organized crime.

That said, if the money is cleaned up by internal sources within the organization in an efficient and believable way by diligent accountants, the only thing you really have to worry about is a conviction for the act itself or a Rico case, which loops in on my original point: no proof of a crime, no regular case, no Rico case.
"most often used organized crime organized crime." Originally Posted by Tellsoftly
That guy must have rung my bell harder than I thought last night...
jan-w's Avatar
  • jan-w
  • 09-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Honestly,

Why would it be so serious that you have to put your money in an overseas bank? You make it sound like hookers get millions of dollars a year. Originally Posted by AlexaTheAmazon
They Don't!!!????
pyramider's Avatar
Great now this thread can go the way of all threads that go into the ladies' income . . .
London Rayne's Avatar
Great now this thread can go the way of all threads that go into the ladies' income . . . Originally Posted by pyramider
You said it!