... Now, now there, mate - no need to do insults.
If you're wrong - you're wrong - no sense getting blue about it.
... Some o' you fellows take all this stuff just a bit
too serious once the FACTS come out and we all start to
push and shove.
... I thought we're surely here to hear OPINIONS of others.
As we do in the Steelers thread... Let's try LISTENING.
Can we leave all the insults on the dock??
#### Salty
- Salty Again
- 01-11-2024, 08:55 AM
- Cody69
- 01-11-2024, 09:08 AM
... Now, now there, mate - no need to do insults.That wasn't an insult that was the truth. Big Difference. I am not one of you lawyers or doctors like you all, I come from the ghettos. Don't take those as insults. If you only knew.
If you're wrong - you're wrong - no sense getting blue about it.
... Some o' you fellows take all this stuff just a bit
too serious once the FACTS come out and we all start to
push and shove.
... I thought we're surely here to hear OPINIONS of others.
As we do in the Steelers thread... Let's try LISTENING.
Can we leave all the insults on the dock??
#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
I am sure you have seen what he has been saying anyway, now wanting to accept it that is a different story.
I apricate your opinion, you not like some on here. But I also know you like pushing buttons. LOL All GOOD
- tommy156
- 01-11-2024, 04:10 PM
The truth will always sound like an insult to an indoctrinated member of trump's cult.
- Salty Again
- 01-11-2024, 05:14 PM
That wasn't an insult that was the truth. Big Difference. I am not one of you lawyers or doctors like you all, I come from the ghettos. Don't take those as insults. If you only knew.... Fair enough there, mate!
I am sure you have seen what he has been saying anyway, now wanting to accept it that is a different story.
I apricate your opinion, you not like some on here. But I also know you like pushing buttons. LOL All GOOD Originally Posted by Cody69
No confusing THAT!
... For example - Tommy and me-own self surely HATE
each other's political views - but WE BOTH seem to share
THE SAME views on football and what-not.
We ALL got OPINIONS on Biden, Trump, religion, whatever the issue!
#### Salty
- onawbtngr546
- 01-11-2024, 05:16 PM
The truth will always sound like an insult to an indoctrinated member of trump's cult. Originally Posted by tommy156
I have to respectfully disagree. The truth always sounds like an insult to those who do not wish to listen to the truth. It isn't just the MAGAs. Once people think they know enough about the subject to be considered a little more than an amateur, but far less from being an expect, they think that they know enough to make them a pro.
Their folly is that they are smart, but still dumb enough to not acknowledge what they don't understand, and thus think that they know all there is. But as soon as someone goes to correct them, they shoot them down, because they think they already know everything there is to know about whatever it is that they don't know about.
MAGAs on the other hand, are just loud enough to be heard them say that Faux News tells them everything they need to know. That they are a good little patriot following their God. They don't need to listen to what anyone else says about whatever they talk about, because you can trust us. They take that, and parrot what they are told by the people inside the screen. That We are right. That everyone else is wrong. That you need to ignore anything else being presented to you, even if it is obvious, because somehow, they are trying to lie to you.
Like a lot of moon landing deniers. They'll deny that Neil and Buzz landed on the moon. Clearly, that was faked. Though somehow, the fact that we sent up a dozen more people, five more times, and even have satellite photographs of the tracks they left up there... they aren't even aware of anything after 'fake apollo 11'
It's how Trump can say anything he wants, even if he contradicts himself. Because those who worship the ground he walks on have been conditioned to not question it. That's why we can have Trump refusing to comment on 'will you abuse power if you win?' and 'do you make a boy scout pledge not to try to overthrow the government?' Because he can say that he owns McDonalds and they'll believe him.
- lustylad
- 01-11-2024, 06:27 PM
Once people think they know enough about the subject to be considered a little more than an amateur, but far less from being an expert, they think that they know enough to make them a pro.OMG - I couldn't agree more! Excellent analysis!
Their folly is that they are smart, but still dumb enough to not acknowledge what they don't understand, and thus think that they know all there is. But as soon as someone goes to correct them, they shoot them down, because they think they already know everything there is to know about whatever it is that they don't know about. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546
As my (over-educated) grandmother used to say - "the aim of all education is to teach you how little you know". The more you learn about a subject, the more you SHOULD appreciate the limits of your own personal knowledge. Too bad it doesn't usually work that way.
Nobody likes a know-it-all. People need to show more intellectual humility. (And yes, that includes DJT.) It begins with admitting there are certain things you aren't as smart or well-versed in as other people are.
If we're discussing the origins of covid-19, I'll defer to scientists & virologists who know more than I do. I will try to follow the arguments on both sides before making up my own mind. I sure as hell won't act like a know-it-all and become hostile & indignant if someone takes the opposing viewpoint - especially if I know that person has studied & worked in that field and can therefore bring more facts and/or better arguments to the discussion.
People who ARE knowledgeable in a certain area can easily tell when someone else is NOT. Some of the posters in this forum make ignorant, partisan comments on economics all the time. They make me cringe. When I correct them, I find myself wondering - did they NOT KNOW they were saying something so ignorant, or did they know and NOT CARE?
- Cody69
- 01-11-2024, 06:33 PM
All I know it is scary if Trump gets back in.
When he says who caused the riot that he incited and says BLM, Antifa, FBI, and whatever make believe people he talks about, and then the next breath he is going to let them all go because they are all good people just as soon as he gets back in. They were all fighting for him and are held hostage. Figure that one out?
If they can take all the footage they have to find the people that were involved in the riot and try them and prosecute them, they can't determine the bad people he is talking about. Figure that one out!
They have the power, there are as many Republicans as there are Democrats in law enforcement. So its not like there isn't like the Magas say here.
Republicans are the one who came forward and testified against Trump in all the hearings. Maybe that is what it is our Megas won't watch any of the hearings. That way they would know the truth.
It wasn't Democrats it was the Republicans that came forward and told the truth. Oh that's right, the ones that came forward were deranged, LOL
When he says who caused the riot that he incited and says BLM, Antifa, FBI, and whatever make believe people he talks about, and then the next breath he is going to let them all go because they are all good people just as soon as he gets back in. They were all fighting for him and are held hostage. Figure that one out?
If they can take all the footage they have to find the people that were involved in the riot and try them and prosecute them, they can't determine the bad people he is talking about. Figure that one out!
They have the power, there are as many Republicans as there are Democrats in law enforcement. So its not like there isn't like the Magas say here.
Republicans are the one who came forward and testified against Trump in all the hearings. Maybe that is what it is our Megas won't watch any of the hearings. That way they would know the truth.
It wasn't Democrats it was the Republicans that came forward and told the truth. Oh that's right, the ones that came forward were deranged, LOL
- 1#Ratt
- 01-11-2024, 07:15 PM
OMG - I couldn't agree more! Excellent analysis!Well said!
As my (over-educated) grandmother used to say - "the aim of all education is to teach you how little you know". The more you learn about a subject, the more you SHOULD appreciate the limits of your own personal knowledge. Too bad it doesn't usually work that way.
Nobody likes a know-it-all. People need to show more intellectual humility. (And yes, that includes DJT.) It begins with admitting there are certain things you aren't as smart or well-versed in as other people are.
If we're discussing the origins of covid-19, I'll defer to scientists & virologists who know more than I do. I will try to follow the arguments on both sides before making up my own mind. I sure as hell won't act like a know-it-all and become hostile & indignant if someone takes the opposing viewpoint - especially if I know that person has studied & worked in that field and can therefore bring more facts and/or better arguments to the discussion.
People who ARE knowledgeable in a certain area can easily tell when someone else is NOT. Some of the posters in this forum make ignorant, partisan comments on economics all the time. They make me cringe. When I correct them, I find myself wondering - did they NOT KNOW they were saying something so ignorant, or did they know and NOT CARE? Originally Posted by lustylad