A bit one sided?

You're not being one sided, because you've had disappointing experiences. That's what review sites are for. It also matters where you're finding the ads for said providers. It's really bad for us legitimate providers when so many are flakes or thieves.

Good luck with your future dates.

Of course it is one-sided, and not just a bit.

Providers will come on here and say that they have never made a client wait or ghosted him, but the fact of the matter is, it happens way more than what is made public.

When a guy NCNS a provider or even disagrees with one on a whore board, then he is ostracized, outed in the provider only forums and followed around on the boards so that provider and her provider buddies can troll him forever. When a provider NCNS a hobbyist, it has to be his fault why she did it and if he reports it, he again, gets ostracized from the community and even banned in some instances because the provider runs to the mods and tells them she is getting her business ruined. That is why those cases rarely get reported.

My advice, learn who does and does not want your business, but do not let providers know what you like out of a session you pay for or you will be branded as hard to please. See the ones you want to see, ignore the rest and let the chips fall where they may.

Once you find the ones you want to see regularly, you have found your place in this hobby world and no one, no matter how hard they try, can take that away from you.

Of course it is one-sided, and not just a bit.

Providers will come on here and say that they have never made a client wait or ghosted him, but the fact of the matter is, it happens way more than what is made public.

When a guy NCNS a provider or even disagrees with one on a whore board, then he is ostracized, outed in the provider only forums and followed around on the boards so that provider and her provider buddies can troll him forever. When a provider NCNS a hobbyist, it has to be his fault why she did it and if he reports it, he again, gets ostracized from the community and even banned in some instances because the provider runs to the mods and tells them she is getting her business ruined. That is why those cases rarely get reported.

My advice, learn who does and does not want your business, but do not let providers know what you like out of a session you pay for or you will be branded as hard to please. See the ones you want to see, ignore the rest and let the chips fall where they may.

Once you find the ones you want to see regularly, you have found your place in this hobby world and no one, no matter how hard they try, can take that away from you. Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Wow! I didn't realize the hobby had gotten that bad. I hobbied under a different name a few years ago for over three years. For personal reasons, I had to use a different name when I came back. I never, ever NCNS or showed up late for any of my dates. I guess the times have changed or I just wasn't aware of just how flaky the majority of providers can be. You're right: when you find a good provider, stick with her.

Wow! I didn't realize the hobby had gotten that bad. I hobbied under a different name a few years ago for over three years. For personal reasons, I had to use a different name when I came back. I never, ever NCNS or showed up late for any of my dates. I guess the times have changed or I just wasn't aware of just how flaky the majority of providers can be. You're right: when you find a good provider, stick with her. Originally Posted by Seline

It is not the entire hobby, it is the hobby for a handful of guys who report the good and the bad situations that happen to them, not only just the good or embellishing the below average sessions as good so as to not cause any drama.

Also, when a hobbyist let's a provider know what he desires in a session he pays for instead of just going with the flow and hope for the best, he considered hard to please, a danger to all and ostracized from the community. He gives an opinion, and even if the vast majority of people would agree with it, if he is on that list, he will get told openly he is FOS. A lot of that has to do with the major gaslighting that goes on constantly and repeatedly pounded into the heads of those who are so weak minded that they cannot think for themselves.

She plays games, good chance of getting scam

I've been called out on tryst for my reviews lol, ive had women tell me they would smear my name and encourage others not to see me for daring to say anything wasn't perfect in a review or comment on a post. I still make review & still make the post.

Do they reach out to others and try to ruin it for me? Yep and are successful sometimes. Other times no one listens to them. I may not have been a member of this community for long but I still have a pretty solid reputation in my home area and surrounding states in this hobby. So if anyone tries to do a big smear job I'll still be fine and just take my business else where.

It is a very one sided situation and IMO it should be. I've only had a handful of bad situations and even fewer dangerous ones. I can only assume the providers have had a lot worse. So if they want to go ballistic or dramatic, let them..least we have communities like this to warn others and know what we may be getting into with them.

It is not the entire hobby, it is the hobby for a handful of guys who report the good and the bad situations that happen to them, not only just the good or embellishing the below average sessions as good so as to not cause any drama.

Also, when a hobbyist let's a provider know what he desires in a session he pays for instead of just going with the flow and hope for the best, he considered hard to please, a danger to all and ostracized from the community. He gives an opinion, and even if the vast majority of people would agree with it, if he is on that list, he will get told openly he is FOS. A lot of that has to do with the major gaslighting that goes on constantly and repeatedly pounded into the heads of those who are so weak minded that they cannot think for themselves. Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

Not all providers think that way. As long as it wasn't listed as not on the menu, then there should be no issue with what you like. However, I understand that you've had bad experiences and I'm still in disbelief that it's gotten that bad out there that this is a topic on this board. Outside of NCNS, I wasn't aware the providers are following gents on the board and trying to tarnish their reputation.

I've been called out on tryst for my reviews lol, ive had women tell me they would smear my name and encourage others not to see me for daring to say anything wasn't perfect in a review or comment on a post. I still make review & still make the post.

Do they reach out to others and try to ruin it for me? Yep and are successful sometimes. Other times no one listens to them. I may not have been a member of this community for long but I still have a pretty solid reputation in my home area and surrounding states in this hobby. So if anyone tries to do a big smear job I'll still be fine and just take my business else where.

It is a very one sided situation and IMO it should be. I've only had a handful of bad situations and even fewer dangerous ones. I can only assume the providers have had a lot worse. So if they want to go ballistic or dramatic, let them..least we have communities like this to warn others and know what we may be getting into with them. Originally Posted by okraslayer

I read the title of this thread wrong initially and thought the OP was stating he was one-sided. LOL I agree with you that they can try to smear your reputation, but those that know you can and will vouch for you. That's why I only accept references from well-established and highly reviewed providers. Sometimes that ends up turning someone off, but I don't trust just anyone's word, so I doubt I would encounter such providers in my reference checks.

I read the title of this thread wrong initially and thought the OP was stating he was one-sided. LOL I agree with you that they can try to smear your reputation, but those that know you can and will vouch for you. That's why I only accept references from well-established and highly reviewed providers. Sometimes that ends up turning someone off, but I don't trust just anyone's word, so I doubt I would encounter such providers in my reference checks. Originally Posted by Seline

Smart and gorgeous is a winning combination Seline..

Smart and gorgeous is a winning combination Seline.. Originally Posted by KCFalcon77

Not all providers think that way. As long as it wasn't listed as not on the menu, then there should be no issue with what you like. However, I understand that you've had bad experiences and I'm still in disbelief that it's gotten that bad out there that this is a topic on this board. Outside of NCNS, I wasn't aware the providers are following gents on the board and trying to tarnish their reputation. Originally Posted by Seline

I know all providers do not think that way, which is why, even though I have my haters, I am still in the hobby! I cannot name names or talk about it or I shall get points from the mods here, but safe to say keyboard warrior guys are not the only trolls on this site.

As far as BCD experiences with providers goes for me, yes, I have had more than my share of having to pay for go through the motions mentally checked out dead fish fucks, but many of them have been good experiences, just not repeatable for me. The ladies I see regularly have lots of IOP or real passion, make me feel glad to be a man and rarely, if ever, post on these supposed adult boards. The sad thing for me is, it took me to having almost 300 p411 OKs before I found the handful who are my regulars.

I can't say I've never made mistakes because I'd be lying, but I do compensate if I mess up. I've been late for appointments and missed appointments because I got times mixed up but I also deducted from those appointments when they were made up. Don't give up you'll find those busted treat people the way they should be treated.

You had to do all that wating I wold of moved on or cancled
At some point this kind of provider will get that she needs to get Organized or she not going to make any money.

It's a shame some providers are like this , but then it makes me think what type of a providers guy's pick that does this or what site you find them on? Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

I gotta agree with this!
Mongers who encounter these types of providers are not doing their homework and are not adept at connecting the dots.

Successful mongering is predicated on street smarts; being able to separate the wheat from the chaff; being able to ascertain the contenders from the pretenders.

Successful mongering is predicated on street smarts; being able to separate the wheat from the chaff; being able to ascertain the contenders from the pretenders. Originally Posted by victoryformation

This. Theres so much information out there if you just do a bit of work, and avoid the "looks to good or to cheap to be real" It probably is. I remember starting out and nothing but ads in the back pages of the pitch magazine and a girls, (you hoped) phone number. No cell phones, so you'd call from a pay phone and hoped she'd answer. Neither one had ANY idea who or WHAT would show up. It was the wild wild west in those days.