Both Hegseth and Waltz have to go.All partisanship aside.
If this is not a “firing offense”, then what the fuck is.
President Trump needs to act. There is no ambiguity involved in this. Simply put, they fucked up royally. . Originally Posted by Jacky S
Both Hegseth and Waltz have to go.Amen! Of course, "I never heard of Signal. An app, if you want to call it that..." doesn't sound like action is forthcoming.
If this is not a “firing offense”, then what the fuck is.
President Trump needs to act. There is no ambiguity involved in this. Simply put, they fucked up royally. . Originally Posted by Jacky S
They were ALL IDIOTS by not using secure communications.
One of the big things *I* hate about donny: got a big mouth that definitely causes chaos like this. Those on the hill with a braincell know they shouldn't let him see classified stuff, potus or not. Just end up in the shitter or stored in the shitter room in florida. Originally Posted by Precious_b
it was secure. The Atlantic editor was added to the list by mistake.
nothing burger indeed
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...story-n2654510
Did You Notice What Vanished From The Atlantic's Narrative About the Hegseth Signal Story?
The Atlantic felt their story was dying. The Trump administration said no classified war plans were discussed in the Signal chat story that’s captured the hyper-regional confines of liberal America. It looks like a nothing burger vis-à-vis a severe breach in classified information, though still an unforced error on behalf of top officials. To recap, The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg was accidentally added to a group chat on the encrypted messenger app, which was pre-downloaded on the devices of those involved in the chat, which included CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, National Security Adviser Michael Waltz, and Vice President JD Vance.
https://x.com/Taylor47/status/1904874968581632040
The Atlantic has already abandoned their bullshit “war plans” narrative, and in releasing the full chat , they concede they LIED to perpetuate yet ANOTHER hoax on the American people. What scumbags!
The hook was that classified war plans were discussed, and Mr. Ratcliffe shot down a claim. There was nothing classified, Jeff, so release the texts. At first, he decided not to do it, simply claiming his detractors were wrong—a typical response when fake news is knowingly peddled.
So, The Atlantic opted to publish the text they felt was classified, though it wasn’t, and two things were clear: these aren’t war plans, and that narrative has conspicuously vanished.
https://x.com/MostlyPeacefull/status...story-n2654510
Notice the narrative shift. First it was “top secret”, then it was “classified”, now it’s “sensitive”
https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1904896703322268149
Are these “war plans?”
https://x.com/davereaboi/status/1904...story-n2654510
Ok so the Atlantic released what they call the “war plans”—they’re depending on people not knowing (or caring) what this is, but to refer to it that way is a stretch. There’s nothing specific here, other than times at which events will occur. A leak of this kind could alert the enemy, but doesn’t tell them anything about what’s coming, where or how to prepare for it. Nothingburger.
Now, this isn’t a one-sided deal. Again, this was a brutal, unforced error, adding a known Trump-hater to this chat. This administration dodged a significant bullet and was lucky that no classified information was disclosed. Then again, in the chats, all the principals are aware of the “high side” lines of communications, secure platforms where deeper discussions could occur.
The chats are real, so it’s not a hoax, but the ‘they disclosed classified war plans’ narrative is fake news and hyper-sensationalized. The White House did well to notice how the words “war plans” got stealth edited in the new disclosures, pointing to a tacit acknowledgement that the publication got ahead of their skis on this one, which is a common trait at The Atlantic:
https://x.com/TomBevanRCP/status/190...story-n2654510
Many things can be true at once. 1) Jeffrey Goldberg is a clear Trump hater. 2) Goldberg has published sensationalized accounts in the past that have been disputed by people with first-hand knowledge. 3) He was added to this chat and has receipts, so it’s not a hoax.
Editor's Note: This leaked Signal chat is a non-scandal, and we need to focus on the real issues, not the Regime Media and Democrats' invented outrage. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
So you follow a couple of right winger blowhards on the first lady-boys gossip app, not surprising.
Here's something that may be for you.
1: They intended for the chat to be deleted when it is REQUIRED to be maintained as an official record.
2: Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;
that's from the federal statute.
3. If you don't hold the highest leaders accountable, how can any military personnel be charged? Or private contractors, etc... for that matter.
But you keep on drinking the kool-aid, it seems you enjoy it. Originally Posted by 69in2it69
Bunch of MAGA tards, if this happened on Bidens watch you would be calling for an impeachment. Originally Posted by HdtownNo joke. Listening to him talk about something with cars and tariffs. When the reporters started asking questions, he tried to duck the issue. When he couldn't he started to blame joey. Funny he didn't say that he adopted joey policy about Yemen.
They’d be calling for the death penalty. And in a time of war, they’d be justified … OOOPS!Fuck ups of this proportion cause deaths! Hell, ease droppers of the donny buddy buddy variety have gleaned an excess of information that probably will cause the deaths of USA citizens down the road.
This kinda stupid is the new American way, eh, mates?
Things that make you go SNICK! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Pete may be looking for a new job adter this Originally Posted by winn dixieHe should have already gave his resignation or been shit canned day 1 after this fiasco. That was SOP before the clown circus that is currently in the WH now.
Expect Twitler to go after Signal and the Atlantic. The look on his face when he was being informed of the breach was priceless.Oh, he did today in that thing I heard today. BTW, you got a link to him dropping his jaw when presented with the news? He did the standard blame and deflect. Already throwing people under the bus. He shouldn't have to. He should get a spine and shitcan the whole lot for shooting their mouths off on an unsecured line. Double fast for those using emojis. Bunch of fucktards acting like kids playing a sony playstation FPS game.
He’d never heard of any of it.
And then Waltz gave a full deepthroated. BBBJ in the cabinet room as a means of deflecting the gravity of the situation and the utter stupidity of this clown car of morons he appointed to the cabinet.
I hope everybody had a chance to witness that. You can see it online, if you’re so inclined.
Dangerous, careless and painfully stupid. The new American way, eh, mates?
SNICK! Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Both Hegseth and Waltz have to go.EXACTLY! Dumbfounds me that people still have their jobs after this massive shitstorm.
If this is not a “firing offense”, then what the fuck is.
President Trump needs to act. There is no ambiguity involved in this. Simply put, they fucked up royally. . Originally Posted by Jacky S
All partisanship aside.And like ending the war in Ukraine, dropping price of eggs, etc., we are still waiting.
I agree. Even a careless mistake at their level deserves action. No matter who. Originally Posted by winn dixie
Always assume that nothing that goes out electronically is secure.Assuming ain't gonna work when you purposely ignore the hardened communication lines that are standard for military and intelligence that these bozos blatantly left out on the wayside.
The mantra that says…..”the people that make radar guns also make radar gun detectors” is always in play. Originally Posted by Jacky S
So now we know two little, teensy even, barely worth mentioning details. But you know me, I'll do it anyway:And the price of tea in China.Would not be surprised to see "an unknown staffer" cooked and gone in a few days.
- Turns out it was "an unknown staffer of Waltz who "accidentally" added Goldberg". Winky-winky, nudge-nudge, know what I mean?
- "The Atlantic has conceded: these were NOT “war plans.”"
Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Amen! Of course, "I never heard of Signal. An app, if you want to call it that..." doesn't sound like action is forthcoming.Boy, are all the retired spooks in the social media site i'm part of have the same thought: "If this happened when I was in, these people would have already have their clearance yanked and be lucky if they weren't sped away to their next assignment in the artic circle picking up sled dog poo."
But you're 100% right on this Jackie. And all those who deny this was serious or even happened, like Bashar Al-Assad's girlfriend and the wild man from Borneo who sat there without blinking in front of the committee.
While we're at it, how about the little blonde fuckdoll. She's spinning her ass off on this too.
Even an administration such as this should take their jobs seriously.
Thanks for posting that Jacky.
Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
Both Hegseth and Waltz have to go.Thank you. I quoted this over in the Pgh forum version of this convo. I appreciate your honesty and straightforward demand for accountability
If this is not a “firing offense”, then what the fuck is.
President Trump needs to act. There is no ambiguity involved in this. Simply put, they fucked up royally. . Originally Posted by Jacky S