more tariffs on China ? everything will be fine ?

you don't get it sir, so allow me to explain..

the fed has a dual mandate: maximize employment, and keep inflation in check. as i mentioned in another thread, inflation isn't a bug of Trump's tariffs; it's the point.

his idea is that tariffs will cause imports to become so expensive that consumers will have no choice but to buy American. one problem: America makes a tiny fraction of all the garbage sold in Wal-Mart, which is largely made in China. so consumers will have a choice: pony up, or go without. for necessary products, they will pony up. voila, that's inflation. how does the fed fight inflation? by raising interest rates.
your comment that the fed can lower interest rates is correct. but will the fed? not a chance, not when inflation is running at 5 or 6%.

and, Jamie Diamond's political affiliation doesn't matter. What matters is the consensus on Wall Street is that tariffs and the trade war needs to end. and those are Trump's peeps..

the Fed can and will lower interest rates. tariffs don't prevent that. shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.


Jamie Dimon .. my former boss .. is a Democrat. always has been.





Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Not quite. That offer was weeks ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...f-announcement

They're looking at some retaliatory packages Originally Posted by HDGristle

The article you cite also says the EU zero for zero offer is still on the table. Maybe you missed that.

you don't get it sir, so allow me to explain..

the fed has a dual mandate: maximize employment, and keep inflation in check. as i mentioned in another thread, inflation isn't a bug of Trump's tariffs; it's the point.

his idea is that tariffs will cause imports to become so expensive that consumers will have no choice but to buy American. one problem: America makes a tiny fraction of all the garbage sold in Wal-Mart, which is largely made in China. so consumers will have a choice: pony up, or go without. for necessary products, they will pony up. voila, that's inflation. how does the fed fight inflation? by raising interest rates.
your comment that the fed can lower interest rates is correct. but will the fed? not a chance, not when inflation is running at 5 or 6%.

and, Jamie Diamond's political affiliation doesn't matter. What matters is the consensus on Wall Street is that tariffs and the trade war needs to end. and those are Trump's peeps.. Originally Posted by pxmcc

Jamie Dimon matters. and he's been right far more than he's been wrong. show me what Wall Street's "consensus" is.

and i don't speak slang so who are those "peeps"?

The article you cite also says the EU zero for zero offer is still on the table. Maybe you missed that. Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

HDG is TDS

it's all he has.

Reuters got it wrong ?


(Reuters) - Wall Street's main indexes reversed course and moved sharply higher after White House economic adviser Kevin Hassett said in an interview that President Donald Trump was considering a 90-day tariff pause on all countries expect China. Originally Posted by VitaMan

... I reckon the FIRST story came from CNBC - and the
other liberal news shitbirds surely followed suit.

CNBC are the ones who buggered the biscuit, mate.

#### Salty

The article you cite also says the EU zero for zero offer is still on the table. Maybe you missed that. Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

Never said it wasn't. It's also not a full zero for zero, only on cars and industrial goods. You still won't see many more U.S. cars in Europe unless the U.D. starts designing cars for Europe and meets certain standards.

And the EU has inquired about LNG before as well. They wanted it, but the adult that was supposed to make a deal didn't step up.

https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...tariff-relief/

He's not going to get Europe to eliminate VAT. Or change their roads to accommodate U.S. cars.

Just like he's not going to get China to start selling him rare earths on the cheap

i did not say Jamie Dimon doesn't matter. i said his political affiliation doesn't matter.

as for Wall Street, you can't get any more Wall Street than the WSJ. it is a well known fact that it skews right. and here's what they had to say about Trump's tariffs..

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...riffs-c747f806


and if Jamie Dimon matters, as you say, and he's right more often than he's wrong, then maybe Trump should pay attention to what he is saying about Trump's tariffs..
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1...treet-warnings

peeps is a well known goofy slang term for people. Bill Ackman, mentioned in the NPR article, is a huge supporter of Trump. and he is saying the tariffs and the trade wars need to end..

what more proof do you need, sir..

math nerds would wrap up with a q.e.d.; it's their version of a bitch slap. however, i'm not smart enough to be a math nerd, so i won't rub it in..

ergo, no q.e.d. ..

Jamie Dimon matters. and he's been right far more than he's been wrong. show me what Wall Street's "consensus" is.

and i don't speak slang so who are those "peeps"?




HDG is TDS

it's all he has. Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

i did not say Jamie Dimon doesn't matter. i said his political affiliation doesn't matter.

as for Wall Street, you can't get any more Wall Street than the WSJ. it is a well known fact that it skews right. and here's what they had to say about Trump's tariffs..

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...riffs-c747f806


and if Jamie Dimon matters, as you say, and he's right more often than he's wrong, then maybe Trump should pay attention to what he is saying about Trump's tariffs..
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1...treet-warnings

peeps is a well known goofy slang term for people. Bill Ackman, mentioned in the NPR article, is a huge supporter of Trump. and he is saying the tariffs and the trade wars need to end..

what more proof do you need, sir..

math nerds would wrap up with a q.e.d.; it's their version of a bitch slap. however, i'm not smart enough to be a math nerd, so i won't rub it in..

ergo, no q.e.d. .. Originally Posted by pxmcc

ergo .. you be wrong. Dimon isn't calling for an end neither is Ackman. they are speaking in the short term and neither think this is a long term issue especially with the world bowing to Lord Trump in droves.

the wsj article is a paywall. post it in full or i'll never read it. your point can't be made that way.

npr is so biased left Trump is right to defund it.

the world needs America more than America needs the world. they are finding that out the hard way. and they will bend the knee to Lord Trump

Why are people surprised? Don't you know what reciprocal means? Trump promised to respond to raised tariffs with the same. China is testing his will. They will back down.

Has anybody noticed that under “Bidenomics”, Wall Street was setting records but the average American was struggling to afford gas and lodging.

Now, under Trump, it seems Wall Street is falling like a rock but average Americans will see benefits in more spending money.

That is, if they give Trump a chance. Instead, TDS is compelling the Democrats and their willing Lackeys in the Main Stream Media to predict nothing but doom and gloom.

I guess we are supposed to assume that all of the Wall Street Gurus are brilliant. They seem that way because they gamble with other people’s money.

You might have better odds at the Roulette Wheels in Vegas.

Two billionaire Trump backers, Ken Langone and Ken Griffin, are furious about the tariffs.

Has anybody noticed that under “Bidenomics”, Wall Street was setting records but the average American was struggling to afford gas and lodging.

Now, under Trump, it seems Wall Street is falling like a rock but average Americans will see benefits in more spending money.

That is, if they give Trump a chance. Instead, TDS is compelling the Democrats and their willing Lackeys in the Main Stream Media to predict nothing but doom and gloom.

I guess we are supposed to assume that all of the Wall Street Gurus are brilliant. They seem that way because they gamble with other people’s money.

You might have better odds at the Roulette Wheels in Vegas. Originally Posted by Jacky S

How does this make any sense, Jacky. Even on a roulette wheel you know your odds of success.

Trump has no clue what he’s doing. Apparently his “average American” cultists don’t either.

This isn’t the Democrats or the dreaded MSM doing this. It’s your lord god Trump. And he’s a demented felon whose business practices have landed him in court throughout his long and fraud fraught career.

i told you there are more economists who Trump cited who denied he implemented their proposals. one wasn't enough for you, even then you said name one. here's the 2nd: anson soderbury.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-w...d-193615537.ht

2nd, you missed the point about the 1st economist. whether he's left or right matters not. what matters is Trump cited him as the basis, among other economists, for the tariffs trump enacted, and he said no way in heck did i say that. truth is Trump pulled his tariff policy out of his ass..

another problem is Trump doesn't know his own end game. Europe was ready to deal on LNG and buying more AG products from our farmers, and he still pulled the trigger. as leverage , sure. as policy? fook no. the 25% of the world economy-us-can't take down the 75% of the world economy-them.

ergo .. you be wrong. Dimon isn't calling for an end neither is Ackman. they are speaking in the short term and neither think this is a long term issue especially with the world bowing to Lord Trump in droves.

the wsj article is a paywall. post it in full or i'll never read it. your point can't be made that way.

npr is so biased left Trump is right to defund it.

the world needs America more than America needs the world. they are finding that out the hard way. and they will bend the knee to Lord Trump Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

i told you there are more economists who Trump cited who denied he implemented their proposals. one wasn't enough for you, even then you said name one. here's the 2nd: anson soderbury.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-w...d-193615537.ht

2nd, you missed the point about the 1st economist. whether he's left or right matters not. what matters is Trump cited him as the basis, among other economists, for the tariffs trump enacted, and he said no way in heck did i say that. truth is Trump pulled his tariff policy out of his ass..

another problem is Trump doesn't know his own end game. Europe was ready to deal on LNG and buying more AG products from our farmers, and he still pulled the trigger. as leverage , sure. as policy? fook no. the 25% of the world economy-us-can't take down the 75% of the world economy-them. Originally Posted by pxmcc

since your link doesn't work whatever point it was supposed to make is unknown. try again.


it does matter what political side the economist Trump cited is. just look at Paul Krugman and Richard Wolfe. both far left socialists who advocate for massive deficit spending, huge government control and actually think you can spend your way out of a recession or depression. nonsense. both are idiots


"your math is blowing me away" .. tony stark


wft does this even mean?


"the 25% of the world economy-us-can't take down the 75% of the world economy-them."

These same leftists screeching now were silent when Biden tanked the market by near 30%. Their "Black Monday" never materialized. And wonder why nobody listens to leftist "economists".

... Can we give the tariff situation another few days
before we panic? ... No need to be a Panican - be a Realist.
China and The US are gonna come to a compromise.
Understand that the Stock Markets will come back. ... And soon.

#### Salty