Kent State......National Guard deploys to stop ICE attacks.

Hmm... are you sure about that, txdot?

Was it "patently unconstitutional" back in 1965 when LBJ federalized the Alabama National Guard (over the objections of Gov. George Wallace) to protect civil rights marchers walking from Selma to Montgomery?

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...20-1965-220862 Originally Posted by lustylad
... Hmmmm... Maybe Tx-Dot sees a difference between
unconstitutional and "patently" unconstitutional ...

#### Salty
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Hmm... are you sure about that, txdot?

Was it "patently unconstitutional" back in 1965 when LBJ federalized the Alabama National Guard (over the objections of Gov. George Wallace) to protect civil rights marchers walking from Selma to Montgomery?

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...20-1965-220862 Originally Posted by lustylad
Without the consent of the governor I do believe so. To let the precedent stand that the president has the sole authority to determine whether military troops should be used to quell dissent is truly chilling.
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  • 06-08-2025, 03:25 PM
Without the consent of the governor I do believe so. To let the precedent stand that the president has the sole authority to determine whether military troops should be used to quell dissent is truly chilling. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Its not dissent.

Its not "Peaceful Protests".

Throwing rocks through the windshields of occupied cars, burning vehicles down, some that weren't even government, same shit as Saint Georges riots, buildings on fire with CNN, claiming its mostly peaceful protests.

Don't continue the lies.
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... Hmmmm... Maybe Tx-Dot sees a difference between
unconstitutional and "patently" unconstitutional ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again
“Patently”
adverb
In a patent manner; openly, plainly, or clearly.
"a patently false statement."

As in, it is patently obvious that your statement is not funny.
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Its not dissent.

Its not "Peaceful Protests".

Throwing rocks through the windshields of occupied cars, burning vehicles down, some that weren't even government, same shit as Saint Georges riots, buildings on fire with CNN, claiming its mostly peaceful protests.

Don't continue the lies. Originally Posted by Devo
Did you see the words “Peaceful Protests” in anything I said. I just don’t like the idea of Military Troops being used for immigration enforcement of any kind nor being used to quell any dissent without the approval of the local government.

What we’re seeing here is an action that will be used again and again by the Trump administration to quell public dissent of any kind that they might not like.

That is “patently” unconstitutional. I believe we are on a slippery slope when we allow this kind of heavy handed behavior by the government.

The justification being used for this deployment of the military is laughable.

What’s next, the federal takeover of state government? By deploying the military without the consent of the state government it is just one further step along the path to totalitarian control.
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I just don’t like the idea of Military Troops being used for immigration enforcement of any kind... Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Why? Do you think our military exists to protect everyone else's borders except our own? That sounds nutty to me.

Some branches of the military, like the US Coast Guard, are explicitly tasked with policing our borders. They work hand-in-glove with the CBP every fricking day.


The justification being used for this deployment of the military is laughable. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
In other words, you find the idea of enforcing federal law to be "laughable"?

Enforcing immigration law is a federal responsibility. Just like enforcing civil rights law is & was when LBJ ordered the National Guard to deploy in Alabama back in 1965 against the wishes of then-Gov. George Wallace.
Did you see the words “Peaceful Protests” in anything I said. I just don’t like the idea of Military Troops being used for immigration enforcement of any kind nor being used to quell any dissent without the approval of the local government.

What we’re seeing here is an action that will be used again and again by the Trump administration to quell public dissent of any kind that they might not like.

That is “patently” unconstitutional. I believe we are on a slippery slope when we allow this kind of heavy handed behavior by the government.

The justification being used for this deployment of the military is laughable.

What’s next, the federal takeover of state government? By deploying the military without the consent of the state government it is just one further step along the path to totalitarian control. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Watch this 16 second clip and tell me the local LA authorities have this under control and there’s no need for the National Guard?

Just let the chaos and destruction continue without consequences eh txdot?

https://x.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1931875366307815645
“Patently”
adverb
In a patent manner; openly, plainly, or clearly.
"a patently false statement."

As in, it is patently obvious that your statement is not funny. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
... Actually, it IS funny -
As you must have forgotten the Guv. George Wallace
surely learned that The President CAN and WILL call in
the National Guard and/or the military if He sees fit.

So, Newsom can piss-off if he don't fancy it. ...

... Just sayin' there, mate.

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George Wallace was a great American, except he was 180 degrees off the political center.

He was only great in that he was the last negro hater that ever existed in the modern public eye, the abject hatred that someone can only show was on full display everywhere he went.

But his hatred was pure, like really good beef tallow you cook fries in.

It wasn't a matter of what blacks were, but how to treat them as less than humans.
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George Wallace was a great American, except he was 180 degrees off the political center. Originally Posted by Devo
That would put him right of center
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Those who forget the past are destined to repeat it.
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  • 06-09-2025, 12:55 AM
Pitts Young Republicans invited Martin Luther King to visit.
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Watch this 16 second clip and tell me the local LA authorities have this under control and there’s no need for the National Guard?

Just let the chaos and destruction continue without consequences eh txdot?

https://x.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1931875366307815645 Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
I’ve seen it, and the local LA authorities have it under control.

Trump used this as an excuse to score cheap political points with his base.


https://archive.ph/qqFtk
Trump Calling Troops Into Los Angeles Is the Real Emergency

President Trump’s order on Saturday to federalize the national guard was both ahistoric and based on false pretenses and is already creating the very chaos it was purportedly designed to prevent.

Mr. Trump invoked a rarely used provision of the U.S. Code on Armed Services that allows for the federal deployment of the National Guard if “there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States.” No such rebellion is underway. As the governor’s spokesman and others have noted, Americans in cities routinely cause more property damage after their sports teams win or lose.
I’ve seen it, and the local LA authorities have it under control.

Trump used this as an excuse to score cheap political points with his base.


https://archive.ph/qqFtk
Trump Calling Troops Into Los Angeles Is the Real Emergency

President Trump’s order on Saturday to federalize the national guard was both ahistoric and based on false pretenses and is already creating the very chaos it was purportedly designed to prevent.

Mr. Trump invoked a rarely used provision of the U.S. Code on Armed Services that allows for the federal deployment of the National Guard if “there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States.” No such rebellion is underway. As the governor’s spokesman and others have noted, Americans in cities routinely cause more property damage after their sports teams win or lose. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
You have quite a definition of under control. You couldn’t be more wrong.

Mebbe Bass should have called in some social workers to talk through the situation?

Here’s more visuals for you showing control of the situation. Just people expressing freedom of speech. Lmao. Would you be supportive if this was happening very close to your home?


https://x.com/RepBrandonGill/status/1932086547710443755
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  • 06-09-2025, 02:04 PM
I’ve seen it, and the local LA authorities have it under control.

Trump used this as an excuse to score cheap political points with his base.


https://archive.ph/qqFtk
Trump Calling Troops Into Los Angeles Is the Real Emergency

President Trump’s order on Saturday to federalize the national guard was both ahistoric and based on false pretenses and is already creating the very chaos it was purportedly designed to prevent.

Mr. Trump invoked a rarely used provision of the U.S. Code on Armed Services that allows for the federal deployment of the National Guard if “there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States.” No such rebellion is underway. As the governor’s spokesman and others have noted, Americans in cities routinely cause more property damage after their sports teams win or lose. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Illegal aliens causing property damage, wearing masks, burning shit, and flying the flag of another country is enough if you ask me.

What if it happened in our neighborhood?

It did, George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion in Western PA, the first use of force against the countries own citizens, in the first administration of a US President.

Precedent has been set long ago, you come here to burn and loot, or you live here and you burn and loot, you need jailed or shot.