Provider does not accept OK's on P411?

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Cendell needs to post taint photos for seconding to count. I don't make the rules. Read the guidelines its in there ... somewhere. Originally Posted by pyramider
^^ Whenever you are ready I’ll let you take the photos Originally Posted by Cendell M
Taint report required.
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I won’t provide real world ID / information, but that’s just me.

To the OP: I think you’re saying that you have P411 but have no references or OKs on P411. Just look for a newbie-friendly provider that’s also on P411. Go through her screening, see her and have a good time, then get an OK. That may smooth it down the road.

It’s all about risk tolerance for you and the provider. I’ve had providers say they won’t accept P411 or still want personal info above and behind P411. My typical response is respectful, “I’m not willing to share my RW info. If that’s a problem for you, I totally understand. If I can give you something else, let me know.”

Sometimes they’ll say no, it’s cool; sometimes they want a PM on here or OH2; sometimes tbey insist and we just part ways.

As I said, it’s all about risk tolerance for both. We don’t want our RW info out there, but providers have a safety and LE concern. It’s all about balance.
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^^^^^

Thread winning post.
I absolutely agree with Beanocock. Absolutely, but I have rarely seen a woman turn down an appointment. As long as you are respectful during screening and don’t come of as weird.

Selfies and real world information is just absolutely stupid because at the end of the day you just can’t trust these ladies. There is a well known provider on Oh2 who used a selfie of a guy in the Alert section of the other board and everyone knows the Powder room is ……………… ( use your imagination)Yes sometimes lines do get tangled but it’s in one’s best interest to be as anonymous as possible . In sessions I answer zero questions of an intimate nature besides what I’ve shared and on the other board I don’t say anything except for a congratulatory something in the review section and only positive remarks on reviews then go back to complete silence. Some ladies want you to say something, but participation in Coed ain’t it and you can never say anything negative in reviews. To play this game know the rules and play the game by being smart. Do that and your next worry is just to have money. To overthink this is not having fun.
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It is true that providers take lots of risk as they have to post pictures of themselves in ads and what not to get business, I guess they want hobbyists to run that same risk. A provider wants a selfie from a guy not because they just want to see who is coming to meet them, they do it so that when the relationship goes sideways, they can post that picture in the companion only forum on OH2 and make up how dangerous the guy is trying to get others to not see him. I have experienced this, never sent a selfie tho so no clue how they got my pics, as I have a few threads about me on there and what is funny about them, they are started by and commented on by providers I have neither seen nor contacted to see.

To get back to the topic of P411 OKs, what type of provider would rely on provider opinions of a guy whom they have neve seen as opposed to providers who have seen him BCD and gave him an OK on P411? I will let you decide the a colorful adjectives you would give a provider who thinks like that!
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But yet someone in this post got my act Suspended for a day after I look at his act 2 times in 6mos after he gave me his act info on Pacepro (with a new handle) [B]So if there is something posted in a ladies room about a member who does you wrong, we should put in our 2cent's in about what happened even if NO BCD ?
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  • Busty
  • 07-13-2025, 10:20 AM
move 2 to 3 steps up is the right answer instead of falling off the ladder of success.
Who you do business with can be a deal breaker.
It is true that providers take lots of risk as they have to post pictures of themselves in ads and what not to get business, I guess they want hobbyists to run that same risk. A provider wants a selfie from a guy not because they just want to see who is coming to meet them, they do it so that when the relationship goes sideways, they can post that picture in the companion only forum on OH2 and make up how dangerous the guy is trying to get others to not see him. I have experienced this, never sent a selfie tho so no clue how they got my pics, as I have a few threads about me on there and what is funny about them, they are started by and commented on by providers I have neither seen nor contacted to see.

To get back to the topic of P411 OKs, what type of provider would rely on provider opinions of a guy whom they have neve seen as opposed to providers who have seen him BCD and gave him an OK on P411? I will let you decide the a colorful adjectives you would give a provider who thinks like that! Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote
I really like your posts and the op talks about what screening will you give so everything you said was on topic. The state of the Powder Room on the other site in regards to pictures etc is why guys will not send selfies. Women weaponize excess information for any silly reason. The guy who runs that site needs to clean that powder room up. No guy has access except through women who know it’s a bunch of lies and give a great dude a heads up. It comes to us without asking for it. The good guys. Outing is definitely allowed for sure in that area on the other site. In fact he said so clearly.

So guys be smart please. It takes one bad communication that’s not necessarily your fault and the lady will unleash the hounds on you. Can’t sully a great person character though. The ones who believe nonsense are people most folks don’t want to see anyway. Chatty Karens. Give references, okays and if it’s no then be nice in hearing the no. Be not weird in screening. Don’t ask will you lick my ass etc. cmon. Certain things you find out once there. Or develops through trust. Those early Comms are so vital. That’s it. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some guys. There are other tips I could give guys but I will get flamed. There are always ways to see 99.9 percent of the ladies any guy with money wants to see and that’s not being misogynistic. Truthful yes. And I’m saying seeing them without any deception. So how does it benefit a male to give out sensitive information? Basic…..A woman wants to know will x pay me, respect my boundaries, not rape or kill me. Oh take a bath of course


Males want to go in and get what they paid for and the services, time she alludes to and not get killed, scammed, robbed . Simple transaction.

Guys don’t give personal information. She asks for it politely say I can’t
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But yet someone in this post got my act Suspended for a day after I look at his act 2 times in 6mos after he gave me his act info on Pacepro (with a new handle) [B]So if there is something posted in a ladies room about a member who does you wrong, we should put in our 2cent's in about what happened even if NO BCD ? Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF
Maybe Waffles would like to know who it is lol ?
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I really like your posts and the op talks about what screening will you give so everything you said was on topic. The state of the Powder Room on the other site in regards to pictures etc is why guys will not send selfies. Women weaponize excess information for any silly reason. The guy who runs that site needs to clean that powder room up. No guy has access except through women who know it’s a bunch of lies and give a great dude a heads up. It comes to us without asking for it. The good guys. Outing is definitely allowed for sure in that area on the other site. In fact he said so clearly.

So guys be smart please. It takes one bad communication that’s not necessarily your fault and the lady will unleash the hounds on you. Can’t sully a great person character though. The ones who believe nonsense are people most folks don’t want to see anyway. Chatty Karens. Give references, okays and if it’s no then be nice in hearing the no. Be not weird in screening. Don’t ask will you lick my ass etc. cmon. Certain things you find out once there. Or develops through trust. Those early Comms are so vital. That’s it. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some guys. There are other tips I could give guys but I will get flamed. There are always ways to see 99.9 percent of the ladies any guy with money wants to see and that’s not being misogynistic. Truthful yes. And I’m saying seeing them without any deception. So how does it benefit a male to give out sensitive information? Basic…..A woman wants to know will x pay me, respect my boundaries, not rape or kill me. Oh take a bath of course


Males want to go in and get what they paid for and the services, time she alludes to and not get killed, scammed, robbed . Simple transaction.

Guys don’t give personal information. She asks for it politely say I can’t Originally Posted by Foxtrotdancer
I have seen multiple providers for BCD sessions who showed me info that I was a danger to the community, be it companion only forum posts, texts, private messages on the boards or emails. But when they saw my number of p411 OKs and from multiple well respected providers, I went and saw them, then we had a laugh about the messages (case in point why p411 OKs are great for screening).

Most providers do not take to heart what is said by other providers when they talk about guys they have never seen, but there are a few who do and those are the ones providers who do that lying and all hope to influence.
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  • R.M.
  • 07-13-2025, 08:34 PM
But yet someone in this post got my act Suspended for a day after I look at his act 2 times in 6mos after he gave me his act info on Pacepro (with a new handle) [B]So if there is something posted in a ladies room about a member who does you wrong, we should put in our 2cent's in about what happened even if NO BCD ? Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF
I read about that.
Again sorry that he did the that to you.
Not just another male Karen.
But a lot worse.
He is a danger to the community.
Maybe Waffles would like to know who it is lol ? Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF
Just say who it is. Certainly not me if that’s what’s implied. Me and Waffles got nothing but love for you. Say it out loud who did it because it’s being insinuated it’s me and I don’t have Pacepro. Never will. This is why the powder room and certain things anonymous is bullshit. Women believe things that are not true at all while the real culprit skates by. Stops hobbying .Guys give nothing. Nothing personal. Put the squeeze on this whole game and just go to relaxing and Latin agencies. My advice. Keep it simple.