Fuck ICE

Well, I am all into deporting illegal immigrants, but, this oppression happening only against weak and hardworking people, not saying only AMP here, but hardworking, people who work daily and bring food to the table. There are millions of rich illegals starting from Elon Musk to Marko Rubio, to so many others, probably Melania Trump too, who knows, why don't they fucking open these people cases too and deport them too?
Law should be unbiased and applicable to everyone equally?
Otherwise it's Nazi law.
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And many are college graduates!
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Marco Rubio was born in Florida and is a US citizen.
IMO, the ones who are paying taxes need to GTFO.
Well, I am all into deporting illegal immigrants, but, this oppression happening only against weak and hardworking people, not saying only AMP here, but hardworking, people who work daily and bring food to the table. There are millions of rich illegals starting from Elon Musk to Marko Rubio, to so many others, probably Melania Trump too, who knows, why don't they fucking open these people cases too and deport them too?
Law should be unbiased and applicable to everyone equally?
Otherwise it's Nazi law. Originally Posted by prince_c3
Pfffft - The minute you use the Nazi word you lose your argument.

Elon & Melania are US Citizens. Rubio is eligible to be elected POTUS. ICE is simply enforcing the law. While the optics may make those of us who possess a soul feel sad for these people, exactly how do you think it's supposed to happen? If they don't self-deport then the only option is to go get them. And yes, from the sounds of what's been going on, they are violating the 4th Amendment by going into the AMP's without a warrant and demanding ID from anyone they encounter. Unfortunately these women are ignorant to our laws and don't understand that it's a guaranteed payday for them on the taxpayer dime. This is obviously something the government thinks they are above, but that's all law enforcement and has always been the case. Thousands of Youtube videos of local law enforcement violating rights and breaking laws every minute of every day. ICE doing this tells me that they're desperate for quotas and have no serious criminals to round up. But I also don't see how "hardworking people" are somehow to be given a pass. We have 20 million + in the country. At some point you have to start saying enough is enough. That's not being mean, it's just reality.
If you have her number, instead of paying the house fee.. why don’t you just host her yourself?

If you’re worried about prices, and know they are trafficked, why don’t you just go get an apt for them and let them work outta there and repay you rent?
Gotta love the stupid people in here talking about obeying the law forgetting what business they're partaking in. Majority of these girls are visa overstays because of the political climate but they're in serious debt and continue to work here.
Pfffft - The minute you use the Nazi word you lose your argument.

Elon & Melania are US Citizens. Rubio is eligible to be elected POTUS. ICE is simply enforcing the law. While the optics may make those of us who possess a soul feel sad for these people, exactly how do you think it's supposed to happen? If they don't self-deport then the only option is to go get them. And yes, from the sounds of what's been going on, they are violating the 4th Amendment by going into the AMP's without a warrant and demanding ID from anyone they encounter. Unfortunately these women are ignorant to our laws and don't understand that it's a guaranteed payday for them on the taxpayer dime. This is obviously something the government thinks they are above, but that's all law enforcement and has always been the case. Thousands of Youtube videos of local law enforcement violating rights and breaking laws every minute of every day. ICE doing this tells me that they're desperate for quotas and have no serious criminals to round up. But I also don't see how "hardworking people" are somehow to be given a pass. We have 20 million + in the country. At some point you have to start saying enough is enough. That's not being mean, it's just reality. Originally Posted by Bravado123
Some amount of illegal immigration has been a staple of the American economy since the 80s, when Republicans like Reagan endorsing it because they realized that there are jobs that not enough normal Americans are willing to do like farmwork and construction. Massage parlors also fall into this category, how many American gals do you think would willingly work at an MP if all the all AMPs went away? The jobs that these people do are jobs that normally would go unfulfilled in the economy, and thus they’re not stealing anyone’s job as is the common refrain against illegals. These types of immigrants are non-violent, pay their taxes, and all have employment authorization cards (even if the way they entered the country initially wasn’t legal), and hell some of these illegal immigrants even go on to vastly improve the economy (e.g. Elon Musk). Now did the amount of illegal immigrants go out of control during the Biden years when they had an open border policy? It most certainly did, but we should draw a distinction between those that came during a period when there was a labor shortage and the government was implicitly encouraging their arrival and have already integrated into American society over decades, and those that just recently flooded in during the Biden era.

If you have her number, instead of paying the house fee.. why don’t you just host her yourself?

If you’re worried about prices, and know they are trafficked, why don’t you just go get an apt for them and let them work outta there and repay you rent? Originally Posted by 643_DP
My place isn’t suitable for hosting which is why I always prefer incalls, and these ladies don’t like hosting at their places for obvious reasons.

Also go back and read again, they’re not trafficked, moreover I’m not interested in becoming a pimp XD
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Well, I am all into deporting illegal immigrants, but, this oppression happening only against weak and hardworking people, not saying only AMP here, but hardworking, people who work daily and bring food to the table. There are millions of rich illegals starting from Elon Musk to Marko Rubio, to so many others, probably Melania Trump too, who knows, why don't they fucking open these people cases too and deport them too?
Law should be unbiased and applicable to everyone equally?
Otherwise it's Nazi law. Originally Posted by prince_c3

Are you that retarded or just being a troll? All the people you mentioned are here legally and became US citizen. Stop calling everything you don't agree with as Nazi.
Typo - meant to say “are NOT” paying taxes
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I just don't understand how any american citizen can argue for illegal aliens, and against ICE for deporting them. The operative word here is "Illegal", and ICE is enforcing the law. It's also extremely disrespectful to the thousands of immigrants that go through the proper channels to obtain a green card or become naturalized citizens.
I just don't understand how any american citizen can argue for illegal aliens, and against ICE for deporting them. The operative word here is "Illegal", and ICE is enforcing the law. It's also extremely disrespectful to the thousands of immigrants that go through the proper channels to obtain a green card or become naturalized citizens. Originally Posted by BluesMan
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I just don't understand how any american citizen can argue for illegal aliens, and against ICE for deporting them. The operative word here is "Illegal", and ICE is enforcing the law. It's also extremely disrespectful to the thousands of immigrants that go through the proper channels to obtain a green card or become naturalized citizens. Originally Posted by BluesMan

Stop and ask yourself, what is "illegal immigrant"? That requires criminality by the person.

It is generally not accurate to qualify the people as "illegal". Generally, they have not committed a criminal offense. Overstaying a visa is NOT criminal, it is civil infraction, equivalent to a lawsuit under the law. Being granted entry and a work permit while awaiting an asylum claim is not even close to criminal, such as the 300,000 Venezuelans that have suddenly had their status revoked.

Migrant farm workers are generally not criminal aliens either.


In the actual rare cases of being caught crossing the border at some place other than a point of entry, that is generally a misdemeanor.


So that leaves you with aliens that either are operating as criminals in organized crime, and aliens that have committed crimes - which is usually the common stuff of the impoverished - Domestic, Drugs, Burglary, and DUI, and then homicides. Crime statistics show that the undocumented population commit these crimes in FAR lower number than US Citizens.

And then you have human trafficking, which falls into both labor and forced sex work. ICE and HSI actually did pick up primary responsibility for investigating this criminal activity. It's really too bad they have to divert focus from this particular modern day slavery.

So anyway, fuck ICE. They have shifting into terrorizing communities and neighborhoods as a whole for political purposes AT THE DIRECTION of politicians in conflict with their congressional authorized duties and responsibilities.
What place was raided
What place was raided Originally Posted by Sirjohnlennon
A number of AMP's have been visited by ICE over the past couple weeks looking for undocumented aliens.