EVERY 213 Democrat who voted against this needs to be kicked out of Congress

... Democrat politicians DON'T WANT the Save Act or Voter ID.
Makes it too hard for them the cheat...

... But the American Voters WANT voter ID to be shown.
... 84% of them...

... See? ... The Democrat politicians DON'T DO what the people want.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Your tin foil cap is tighter than your Kanga Kicks…..

elg…..

^^^

No. I think Salty has it just about right.

The Democratic Party, the politicians and their behind the scenes power brokers, have a history of "fixing" selection events to go the way they want. Hillary Clinton was maneuvered out of the way for Obama in 2008 for instance. And in turn, Bernie Saunders was maneuvered out of the way for Clinton in 2016. in 2020, the party froze out RFK jr from any sort of primary to ensure that the visibly enfeebled President Biden could make the run.

These were not general elections and a political party may choose whomever they want in any way they want when nominating a candidate (except in California ). But that ithey was done the way they were done in those events revealed much about the character of the Democratic Party.Pretty much the same sort of thing took place in swapping out President Biden for VP Harris in 2024.

I feel that Salty is correct in calling out the Democratic Party on "cheating". It is my perception that actively manipulating the course of a selection event, be it a phantom party primary or in the general election, is what they do.

Requiring positive voter ID in a general election makes it more difficult to do that.

Salty has it right.

Well, if there's all these 'illegally registered voters' out there, the SAVE Act won't get rid of them. There's no requirement to make all those 'illegally registered voters' prove their citizenship. They'll just show up at the poll with a fake ID and vote.

Make the SAVE act require re-registering every voter in the US so they can prove their citizenship before they vote again.

It's only 161.42 million people or so...what could go wrong?

That's the whole point: they don't cheat.

SHOW US PROOF that they do.

Don't repeat your bullshit from the "election" threads. Don't tell us to "JUST WAIT" to see what comes out of the "investigations."

Post PROOF of significant fraud that affected a major political race in modern times.

(you ain't getting away with lies in THIS thread either)

. Originally Posted by rooster

See, the way it works in MAGA Qtard land is, if they lose, they were cheated. Simple...right?

^^^

No. I think Salty has it just about right.

The Democratic Party, the politicians and their behind the scenes power brokers, have a history of "fixing" selection events to go the way they want.....

I feel that Salty is correct in calling out the Democratic Party on "cheating". It is my perception that actively manipulating the course of a selection event, be it a phantom party primary or in the general election, is what they do.

Requiring positive voter ID in a general election makes it more difficult to do that.

Salty has it right. Originally Posted by ICU 812

As I have been forced to say so many times recently....WHAT THE LIVING FUCK?

NOTHING that you post in the first two paragraphs supports the Briny point of view about "cheating." The posts that you reference are just lies about fraud, plain and simple.

Yours is about political manipulation. Which...and I should not have to point this out...has NOTHING to do with voter fraud or non-citizens voting in elections. ZERO.

And to state that "Democrats have a history" of this kind of "cheating" is naive...and pure hypocrisy. Both parties do these types of manipulations. It is...and always has been...a major part of politics.

Let's summarize here:

You are basically off topic in a weird attempt to defend a liar...and to criticize the Dems, of course.

(and you saying THREE FUCKING TIMES that he is "right" does not make him so...you maybe wanna consider the risk of making yourself look as bad as he does...ya ain't quite there yet, but....)

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This could be mitigated if the frequently erroneous poster would provide proof for his erroneous posts.

Then we'd have something to debate.

Currently, the only debate is over the credibility of a poster has never offered a shred of evidence, a citation, a link, nada, for his quaint, cutesy posts. And never will.

Just don't say nothin' about the Australian "race." THAT crosses the line.

LOL!

In addition, Noem also took issue with reports that the federal government would remove people from state voter rolls.

“Well, that’s just simply not true. That state and local election officials do the registration and they list, they maintain these lists going forward,” Noem said. “We just help them do their job and make sure that they are doing it correctly.”

Yeah..."I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
Or "Nice voter roll you got here, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it."

Simply asserting that an erroneous statement has been made does not, in and of itself, negate the statement.

So "prove" that a so-called erroneous statement is wrong.

I interviewed a WW-II era bomber pilot some years ago. One of the things he said was something like, " If you are taking flak, you know you are over the target."

While working at a VA hospital, I heard similar remarks form other bomber crew mwmen as well.

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No. I think Salty has it just about right.

The Democratic Party, the politicians and their behind the scenes power brokers, have a history of "fixing" selection events to go the way they want. Hillary Clinton was maneuvered out of the way for Obama in 2008 for instance. And in turn, Bernie Saunders was maneuvered out of the way for Clinton in 2016. in 2020, the party froze out RFK jr from any sort of primary to ensure that the visibly enfeebled President Biden could make the run.

These were not general elections and a political party may choose whomever they want in any way they want when nominating a candidate (except in California ). But that ithey was done the way they were done in those events revealed much about the character of the Democratic Party.Pretty much the same sort of thing took place in swapping out President Biden for VP Harris in 2024.

I feel that Salty is correct in calling out the Democratic Party on "cheating". It is my perception that actively manipulating the course of a selection event, be it a phantom party primary or in the general election, is what they do.

Requiring positive voter ID in a general election makes it more difficult to do that.

Salty has it right. Originally Posted by ICU 812

I don't question how either party gets its candidates to be the head of respective party. If there are issues about it, it is settled internally to the respective parties. And as long of each parties constituents legal wishes are honoured, what do i care?

I ain't a demmie. I ain't a repub. So I ain't gonna say which one each is suppose to pick. I pick the one I want when they are said and done.

And I really wonder why it upsets maggies how the other side of the fence comes up with their boy (or girl.) It ain't up to them to choose. Just to put up a person that should be more favoured by the populace of this country.

But maggies have a long standing history of rigging elections if they can't win them. All they have to do is hit the streets and promote their candidate. But we all know how lazy they are and would rather scream on the couch at the tv.

I don't question how either party gets its candidates to be the head of respective party. If there are issues about it, it is settled internally to the respective parties. And as long of each parties constituents legal wishes are honoured, what do i care?
Originally Posted by Precious_b

The way I understand the process I California: In primary elections, each party may put candidate son the primary ballot. However, only the top two got getters will appear on the ballot for the general election. This means that

An example: The election is for Dogcatcher of Sumpwater County. Democrats run three candidates. (#1, #2 1nd #3). Republicans run three candidates (#4, #5 and #6).

When the votes are counted, #1 and #3 have the top total;s in the Sumpwater County eprimary election. In the general election for Dog Catcher, only #1 and #3 even paper on the ballot. In effect, the Republican Party in that county cannot choose who they will run for Dog Catcher against a Democrat candidate.

In California, the so called "Primary Election" is in reality just a preliminary run-off for the general election. In many counties, Republican voters never have the opportunity to vote for a Republican candidate in the general election.

Poor example as Sumpwater County Dogcatcher would likely be a non-partisan election.

The Top Two Candidates Open Primary Act does not apply to candidates running for U.S. President, county central committees, or local offices.
I.E. does not apply to non-partisan elections.

Local Offices (Generally Nonpartisan)
Most local government offices do not list party affiliation:
City council members
Mayors (in most cities)
County supervisors
District attorneys
Sheriffs
School board members
Community college district trustees
Special district boards (water, transit, etc.)

State Legislature & Other Statewide Offices (Partisan)
For contrast, these are partisan (party preference appears on ballot):
Governor
Lieutenant Governor
Attorney General
Secretary of State
State Controller
State Treasurer
Insurance Commissioner
State Board of Equalization
State Senate
State Assembly

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/pri...ons-california

But maggies have a long standing history of rigging elections if they can't win them. All they have to do is hit the streets and promote their candidate. But we all know how lazy they are and would rather scream on the couch at the tv. Originally Posted by Precious_b

SAVE Act doesn't go far enough....it needs to make every voter in US re-register and prove citizenship...even members of Congress and the President and Vice President.

SAVE Act doesn't go far enough....it needs to make every voter in US re-register and prove citizenship...even members of Congress and the President and Vice President. Originally Posted by RX792P

Of course, MAGAtards don’t have to prove this……just people who have different skin tones than they do…..according to them!



Seriously…..the Federal Government needs to stay out of elections. They have enough other shit to fuck up, we don’t need Trumptard screwing up elections …….



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