As for the topic at hand........Fsn said it best.
Dinner dates are usually longer than an hour or two, so having a nice dinner (lite) isn't a problem. Just makes both people want to sleep after BCD.

I am not a big fan of dinner before BCD. A drink or two is fine, fun, and fantastic.Seconded, I wouldn't drop a large amount of money on a really nice dinner and then pay to watch a woman eat it... unless of course she was there overnight anyway. I mean the point would be to have some nice company to keep the illusion of the GFE up (which is notoriously mis-named IMHO), however if you want to have drinks and talk to women, your local gentleman's club is full of women who would probably drink with you. It's usually not too hard to find one who just wants to talk about her day... (that is until the inevitable "stripper drama" plays out).
Afterwards, if we connect and there is mutual interest, I am happy to take a lady out for dinner or her favorite lunch. It won't happen if she wants me to pay her to watch her eat. Originally Posted by Redwolf

Let's be honest. We like dinner dates because it gives us a reason to go to someplace nice and order things we shouldn't have. Face it. In real life we are generally fat, lazy slobs. So a good meal can be as exciting as good sex.You said it COG, and I will add we, the guys are nothing more than green backs to the providers and it wouldn't matter if we met in the landfill or the Ritz. Sillygirl defines the relationship well. COG if recreational space travel would ever become possible you could book yourself and SG on a trip to the moon and she will still demand the 3 bills/hr.
SG, uh, you going to finish that? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
You said it COG, and I will add we, the guys are nothing more than green backs to the providers and it wouldn't matter if we met in the landfill or the Ritz. Sillygirl defines the relationship well. COG if recreational space travel would ever become possible you could book yourself and SG on a trip to the moon and she will still demand the 3 bills/hr. Originally Posted by buzzworm86A bit cynical Buzz lol. Lilianna is just being upfront about her expectations. I was talking about this very thing, over a late dinner with an lady in town over the weekend lol. Her take was each lady finds what works for them. Some enjoy the interaction some don't. And thankfully don't mind being seen in public with an older man, thru I've been told I've aged well Lilianna lol.
Just curious as to what you guys and girls feel about meeting for a drink or dinner date before the main event?There are two points you have made:
I find these work well for me as they really give a break the Ice period to get that out in the open! Meeting in a public place first seems to be safer as both parties can assess the other better! Whether an in or outcall. I always find them enjoyable but that's just me
Another question is cost ? Should it be the normal hour fee? A reduced rate? Or no charge based on prelude to the grand event? Originally Posted by KCboy
The whole point for meeting first is to determine if it is safe for both parties to continue, but you should always pay for the girls time - that is her income, it is not a date where you might get a reward for dinner (or just a drink because you are such a fine catch), don't confuse the two.
- Break the IceMeet in Public (it is safer for both parties to assess each other)
Enjoyable to meet first is BS, it is difficult for both of you- Should you pay for this?
Yes, don't be cheap! It doesn't look good