unfair?

still a rookie. thanks for the advice

I seen on your showcase (limited GFE), please explain this to me and how does this correspond with YMMV. She is suppose to stay the full hour even if he can't eat a second dessert.

This can be CONFUSING to me and others.
I thought GFE is full menu with 2 desserts(no greek) and the full hour of hanging out together and talking with massage after the meal.
Did she do just a massage only with no interaction?
kissing is touching is GFE
chatting and massage afterwards is GFE

I don't mind a lady being YMMV, so long as she knows depending on what her version of GFE is MDMV (my donation may vary) if her services are lacking when I arrive.

I do believe ymmv is a shitty excuse to just be lazy in session.

According to her review........and I sure she can post to the contrary if she wishes...........

Her limited GFE includes: no touching, no kissing, no cuddling, no digits, no daty. She should drop the gfe and just put limited.............or fucky but no touchy. Lol

According to her review........and I sure she can post to the contrary if she wishes...........

Her limited GFE includes: no touching, no kissing, no cuddling, no digits, no daty. She should drop the gfe and just put limited.............or fucky but no touchy. Lol Originally Posted by gimme_that

That is very simply NOT GFE. Period. If "no kissing" qualifiies as "GFE", then I feel very very sorry for her boyfriend.

I'm no prize, but at least every girlfriend I've had has kissed me.

Cheers,

bcg

That is very simply NOT GFE. Period. If "no kissing" qualifiies as "GFE", then I feel very very sorry for her boyfriend.

I'm no prize, but at least every girlfriend I've had has kissed me.

Cheers,

bcg Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

BCG thank you, you made me laugh this morning.

I will add one more thing. Her body is obviously hot so for the reviewer to exclaim otherwise is suspect. And I personally would not have ASKED for my money back. This aint Walmart for Christ sake. The only way this industry works is if its based on trust and a willingness for the lady to say "keep your money honey it was nice to meet you" or the gent to pay the fee to thumb wrestle. It's when we forget this ain't fucking Walmart that the bullshit starts. Imho

Two relevant points, at least I think they're relevant, from my experience:

1. GFE has many definitions, but usually they include kissing and cuddling and conversation, along with a list of sexual services. It's those sexual services where I think the definition can vary - some believe BBBJ and CIM belong in GFE, but others think CBJ is OK, for example. So, it is what it is - a Girl Friend Experience, but that experience can vary from girl friend to girl friend.

b. I once had a particularly unsatisfactory experience with a lady - we didn't click from the beginning, her services were mediocre, and I left after about a half hour without a happy ending, but I left her the donation - it's for her time. Keep that in mind.

JaG

Good point Jag but the guys need to be made clear on the LIMITED GFE so there is "NO" missunderstandings.
I went and added something to my showcase because of this very thread "no greek food on the menu" but you do get two desserts along with kisses from the Waitress and a massage. You want to enjoy the meal and not be rushed and kicked out of a restaurant. just saying.
When I was in my 20's agency girls pulled this kind of stuff and got away with it, maybe someone taught her this?

BCG thank you, you made me laugh this morning. Originally Posted by HeatherNicole

My existence has been justified then.

Hope I can make you laugh again soon.

Cheers,

bcg

I'm no prize, but at least every girlfriend I've had has kissed me. Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

To me, if a lady isn't into kissing, then she isn't GFE. I didn't get to kiss a lot of ladies in high school, but every girlfriend I had also kissed me.

GFE has many definitions, but usually they include kissing and cuddling and conversation Originally Posted by JustaGuyinMS

Yes, absolutely. This is my definition more so than services.

along with a list of sexual services. It's those sexual services where I think the definition can vary - some believe BBBJ and CIM belong in GFE, but others think CBJ is OK, for example. So, it is what it is - a Girl Friend Experience, but that experience can vary from girl friend to girl friend.
JaG Originally Posted by JustaGuyinMS

I've never had a girlfriend put a condom on my dick before she sucked it, but I only had one girlfriend ever let me cum in her mouth either. I do agree this is a place where opinions vary. I did see a lady once who was all over me with kissing, but I got a CBJ and considered her GFE. On the other hand I've had plenty of non-GFE ladies give BBBJ,

"no greek food on the menu" but you do get two desserts along with kisses from the Waitress and a massage. You want to enjoy the meal and not be rushed and kicked out of a restaurant. just saying. Originally Posted by Anita Lay

Sounds like the kind of restaurant most guys prefer to go to..... unless they are cheap and want a happy meal.

........agency girls pulled this kind of stuff and got away with it, maybe someone taught her this? Originally Posted by Anita Lay

On the flip...NEVER ask a guy - tell him to go. Buh-bye. ayedeeos. laters.

Yes, you absolutely have the right to 'call' a date whenever whyever. All money aint good money. There is a certain amount of BS you have to learn to deal with. Most guys push for extra - extra time, extra "service" (whatever that is) - they just usually do it with a smile and charm. Your job is to keep control of the date, not through attitude but with a smile.

I read this real early this am & thought a few things.

I never discuss details prior (other than type of date & length). It always gets discussed face to face. Yes, I said face to face ie in person. If I'm not willing to discuss details face to face, then they shouldn't be face to face should they?

I have called one date and thrown one guy out in 3+ years. I have never had the "I'll give you a bad review" BS thrown at me BUT and not sure if this is key or not; I'm older. Seems like it's my younger sisters who get this more?

Reviews? I have less than 10 across the entire www in over 3 years. Had almost double that before e.com went down. So for someone to threaten me with a bad review...well..okay spanky whatever. I'd probably L.M.F.A.O.

I will add one more thing. Her body is obviously hot so for the reviewer to exclaim otherwise is suspect. And I personally would not have ASKED for my money back. This aint Walmart for Christ sake. The only way this industry works is if its based on trust and a willingness for the lady to say "keep your money honey it was nice to meet you" or the gent to pay the fee to thumb wrestle. It's when we forget this ain't fucking Walmart that the bullshit starts. Imho Originally Posted by Grneyes

Ditto 1,000x's!
In ANY business, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.
The name of the game is win more than you LOSE!

Guys, if you get what you want more than you don't you win.

Gals, if you collect more than you give back you win.

But even when you lose keep the same winning spirit and watch your success GROW.

"WINNING" Courtesy of Charlie

Reviews? I have less than 10 across the entire www in over 3 years. Had almost double that before e.com went down. So for someone to threaten me with a bad review...well..okay spanky whatever. I'd probably L.M.F.A.O. Originally Posted by babee

Considering how close you are to retirement, the threat of a bad review is kinda empty now.

Cheers,

bcg

lol..yeah, I'm finding I'm getting even more of an attitude because of that very fact! heeheeheeheeheee <waves at MOD's>

I miss you babee.. can't wait to see you again sister..
U go girl.