Newt Upsets Mitt

That's not true. Military spending is the Republican's dirty little secret. It dwarfs spending on social programs. The pubs have just done a better job with their social engineering at fooling the public on this spending and hiding all those "little" contracts given to lobbyists. Originally Posted by onlyyoungonce

We spend more on defense than the rest of the world COMBINED. About 6 times higher than than China, the next highest spender. Most of the other "high" spenders are our western european allies. Yet when anyone mentions cuts in the defense dept. the fear mongering begins from the republicans.
There was an article a couple weeks ago about a 1 billion cost overrun on a battleship. No outrage from our fiscal conservatives like there was about Solandra (or however you spell it).$ 36 to 60 billion just disappears on Iraq yet no outrage. Defense contractors have cost plus contracts and guaranteed profit margins, sounds rather "socialistic" to me. $4 trillion dollars wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan and they criticize Obama for pulling out.
Romney wants to build a military " so strong that no one will ever think of attacking us". Sounds like another big spending Republican to me. $10 trillion of debt incurred under republican administrations since reagan and they have the nerve to call themselves " fiscally conservative". All that spending and we've got crumbling infrastructure and the worst economy since the great depression.

I love Barney Frank's comment about Newt being the Republican candidate, "We Democrats have not been sufficiently pleasing to God to have Newt as GOP candidate."

have my passport in order, if newt is elected, moving to the last Shangri-La on earth, Bhutan... where they measure Gross National Happiness, not GNP.

The fact that we can have political discourse from all sides, hopefully done with civility, is a reminder that we are luckier than most people in the rest of the world.
Originally Posted by jackfengshui

All the people in the world Jack. I consider myself pretty far right minded but agree almost all politicians are screwing us and this country. During the 8 years of W our deficit increased by $4 trillion. This included the wars and the Tarp bailouts. And how did the media report this during the 08 election. Worst thing ever, Republicans had to go, Democrats will turn the budget around because Clinton did it before, vote democrat. This is why I think the media plays a major major role in the downturn and class warfare going on today. Where is the reporting of increasing the deficit 4 trillion over three years. If parties were reversed the media would be looking back at the good old days from 2000 to 2008. Only a democrat can propose a $15 Trillion 10 year budget deficit and look to reduce it by $4 trillion over those 10 years as an amazing feat. That's still an $11 trillion deficit increase over the next 10 years going from a 16 to $27 trillion national debt.

Nothing promised during the campaign came true. And who really thought it would. Cut the deficit in half, unite the country, make us loved in the world with the Islamic community. And lets not forget the campaign was against the worst economy since the depression. Calling the economy Depression like. I didn't see bread line then or now. Back in 08 there was a world wide recession. But it was reported it was all W's fault. Now as the world economy is still in trouble, it's reported it has an impact on our economy. There's an earthquake in Japan and slows down our economy. It all may have some impact but I never heard it reported 9/11 or Katrina or granting mortages to people who could never pay it back inflating housing values may have helped slow our economy. The media is so biased it's not worth reading the paper or watching the nightly news. The only solution possible as most agree no one in office has our back, term limits. Get people in there and don't let them get entrenched in the system.

Montana, I agree things are in a mess. However, as I look around the world, I would be hard pressed to pick a country whose political system we would like to emulate.

Agreed Jack and that's why I started my response with
"All the people in the world."


There is no place in the world better than here that provides the opportunities and freedoms we have. That's why it really bothers me how quickly our nation has turned. I think our generation will be fine but anyone under 30 is screwed. I tell my kids and their friends just how screwed they are unless they step up and make the necessary changes. More taxes and more spending will never work. Like I said before this big plan discussed last year for the next 10 years budget is to add $11 trillion to the national defecit. It's not going to work.