Your about the third or fourth "tolerant liberal" who has wished me dead because of my ideas. In the old Soviet Union, you were known as the "Party." Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyThanks for the update, Comrade!
- Guest040616
- 02-09-2012, 05:44 AM
- Iaintliein
- 02-09-2012, 08:54 AM
I'm sure some here will point out what a "right wing" source this is /sarc.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ins?intcmp=122
Aw yes, no problem, we can just extrapolate the data and apply "factors" the way we did to the satellite data to get it to agree with the ground station data. . . huh? How the hell let this satellite data get out without being "adjusted". . . urrr.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...s-than-thought
Now stop this shit! Cosmic rays couldn't affect climate, only evil capitalist pig-dogs can. Now Exxon-Mobile has bought CERN! They are nefarious.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07...osmic_ray_gag/
Oh well.
Attention, attention please; the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely, however, it's still imperative not to question international socialist dogma, so let's keep pushing to tear down western industrialized nations!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ins?intcmp=122
Aw yes, no problem, we can just extrapolate the data and apply "factors" the way we did to the satellite data to get it to agree with the ground station data. . . huh? How the hell let this satellite data get out without being "adjusted". . . urrr.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...s-than-thought
Now stop this shit! Cosmic rays couldn't affect climate, only evil capitalist pig-dogs can. Now Exxon-Mobile has bought CERN! They are nefarious.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07...osmic_ray_gag/
Oh well.
Attention, attention please; the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely, however, it's still imperative not to question international socialist dogma, so let's keep pushing to tear down western industrialized nations!
- yaddayadda
- 02-09-2012, 10:15 AM
Ice melts, Ice is also formed......six 100th of an inch....does anyone think they can measure that accuratly?, the worlds oceans....worst case..the sea rises one inch in a hundred years. Sounds sort of consistent to me....
This article is from NOAA:
Nearly 230 billion tons of ice is melting into the ocean from glaciers, ice caps, and mountaintops annually—which is actually less than previous estimates, according to new research by scientists at the University of Colorado, Boulder.
If the amount of ice lost between 2003 and 2010 covered the United States, the whole country would be under one-and-a-half feet of water, or it'd fill Lake Erie eight times, researchers say. Ocean levels worldwide are rising about six hundredths of an inch per year, according to researcher John Wahr.
While vast quantities of ice melting into the ocean is not exactly good news, Wahr says, according to his team's estimates, about 30 percent less ice is melting than previously thought.
The team used data from the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment satellite, which was launched as a joint project between NASA and Germany in 2002. The GRACE satellite measures gravity, which is related to mass, in 20 distinct regions worldwide. Wahr says that gives the team more accurate estimates, because previous teams had to measure ice loss at "a few easily accessible glaciers" and then extrapolate it to the 200,000 glaciers worldwide.
"It's tough to get an estimate [with previous methods]," he says.
With GRACE, the team can measure wide swaths of the earth, giving them a more complete picture. "It was time to do a complete global inventory," he says. Although the team used eight years of GRACE's data, Wahr says it's important to realize that melting patterns are hard to predict.
"Even with an eight-year estimate, it's not clear how far into the future you can project," he says. "A lot of people want to predict into the end of the century, but I think it's too dangerous to do that … We don't have enough info to know what'll happen. There's some ebb and flow to these things."
This article is from NOAA:
Nearly 230 billion tons of ice is melting into the ocean from glaciers, ice caps, and mountaintops annually—which is actually less than previous estimates, according to new research by scientists at the University of Colorado, Boulder.
If the amount of ice lost between 2003 and 2010 covered the United States, the whole country would be under one-and-a-half feet of water, or it'd fill Lake Erie eight times, researchers say. Ocean levels worldwide are rising about six hundredths of an inch per year, according to researcher John Wahr.
While vast quantities of ice melting into the ocean is not exactly good news, Wahr says, according to his team's estimates, about 30 percent less ice is melting than previously thought.
The team used data from the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment satellite, which was launched as a joint project between NASA and Germany in 2002. The GRACE satellite measures gravity, which is related to mass, in 20 distinct regions worldwide. Wahr says that gives the team more accurate estimates, because previous teams had to measure ice loss at "a few easily accessible glaciers" and then extrapolate it to the 200,000 glaciers worldwide.
"It's tough to get an estimate [with previous methods]," he says.
With GRACE, the team can measure wide swaths of the earth, giving them a more complete picture. "It was time to do a complete global inventory," he says. Although the team used eight years of GRACE's data, Wahr says it's important to realize that melting patterns are hard to predict.
"Even with an eight-year estimate, it's not clear how far into the future you can project," he says. "A lot of people want to predict into the end of the century, but I think it's too dangerous to do that … We don't have enough info to know what'll happen. There's some ebb and flow to these things."
- dilbert firestorm
- 02-09-2012, 08:56 PM
They are fleeing the sinking ship lilke rats............here's the der spiegel interview link whirly forgot to post
This one is German scientists Prof Dr Fritz Vahrenholt. Widely regarded as one of the founding fathers of the modern green energy movement; and hardcore supporter of the IPCC (at least up to now). And Social Democrat.
From his new book.............apparently written because of the massive fraud he beleives is going on within the IPCC and climate change science that supports it.
‘The climate catastrophe is not taking place’, the environment expert claims. The sun is being underestimated as a natural climate factor. ‘The sun has been weak since 2005′, Vahrenholt said in a DER SPIEGEL interview. ‘We can only expect cooling from it for the time being.’” Originally Posted by Whirlaway
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...813814,00.html
- dilbert firestorm
- 02-09-2012, 10:01 PM
looks like Michael "hockey stick" Mann isn't having his way
http://sppiblog.org/news/michael-%E2...court-escapade
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-climat/print/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/0...a-legal-fight/
http://sppiblog.org/news/michael-%E2...court-escapade
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-climat/print/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/0...a-legal-fight/
- Whirlaway
- 02-10-2012, 06:29 AM
Thanks DF.