No Good Housekeeping Seal for Amber!

....and I don't think there is a such of a thing as Private markers in the public threads.. Originally Posted by handyGiraffe

only if the info is leaked by a premium access member or if read in "other sites"...

GV, jeeez pal, i'll be glad to let you foot the bill on a ribeye or prime rib dinner at ruth chris anytime & it'll be off the clock! But with me...anything else by you then it's arse kicking time!LOL!

but seriously, sorry about the hassles, i hope things get worked out. i think the "discussion section" gives you AND her the fair opportunity air both sides & let the chips fall where they may!

Assuming is a NO Bueno! But this is very entertaining. If someone wanna take me out for a meal and drinks "for free" then go have some Mr. Nasty time I'm DOWN! :0)
Holllla *In My Diva Voice

Hey, Mr. GaryVee, I know what you are saying, my number one provider (no names mentioned) on several occations, we have met for lunch and then done our business, this last time we went bar hopping and we were out two hours, she had a fantastic time, but before I do a suggestion about dinner or drinks I just mention "its up to you, but do you want to ........, and sometimes I do wonder, that if I have to pay for the extra time I will, but I do leave her a gratius in addition to any fee. You just have to kind of read in between the lines or vibes, or just be up fornt and say it in plain english, "Hey do you want to go out to dinner as an invitation only, and then we do what we do at no additional fees"

Amber seems like a decent lady. I wish she would respond so we could quit making assumptions about what happened on her end. From what I read she does owe the OP an apology. However, from my experience with her I don't think people should assume she is this indifferent to her customers. We all make mistakes.

Obviously she should have responded, but if someone had asked me for dinner and then the date, I would have thought I was getting paid for my time, unless I was asked upfront if it was cool. If I have nothing going on, I'll go to dinner before or after a session and it wont be part of the session. But, if I get a call from someone who wants to pay, then I will take the call that pays and cancel my free dinner date, like I would just do the actual session part. Im here to make money, afterall. Im sure she will make it up to you, she's totally cool and Im sure she'll have an explanation.

Laz, you're an awesome person...thank you for understanding that WE ALL make mistakes. As long as something wasn't done maliciously or premeditated, to waste your time and money...just give her a chance to get back to you. If she does, great, if not...there's probably 190 other ladies to call.

I just hope she's ok...and, not sitting in a hospital somewhere.

Well, it sounds like she was touch and go on meeting at all in the first place. She did immediately try to change the date to the next day. This indicates that she wasn't really in the game that night and maybe had conflicting interests or family issues she was torn over. Then she reluctantly agreed to meet.

You kind of made a mistake by not being clear about the terms of your offer with someone you haven't seen yet. Some women don't do or enjoy casual time with clients, it's money time only. Some only enjoy "extra, off-clock" time with long time clients. Some enjoy any spending in their direction (free dinner off clock, gifts, maybe a Spurs game).

By texting her while she was already on her way (maybe half way there?) , that could piss off a provider who was already stressed and only coming for the money.

Or maybe because you wouldn't reschedule, she started off intending to meet and then her "other issues" turned into a crisis and she had to abort and was so tied up in the drama that she couldn't communicate.

You never know. It's only been a short time. I would PM her and say, "I thought we were meeting Easter evening. What happened?"

This is direct and gives her a chance to do the right thing. It also gives you a chance to scratch her off your dance card but then find out she left the state for a week and then she answers your PM with a great story and you unscratch her and become friends....

Or she never answers and then you don't need to feel bad for scratching her.

I will take this opportunity to remind everyone that no form of private communication is allowed to be posted in these forums.

Thank you.

If private communication isn't allowed, why are the private tags valid? They do appear to work, as the private comment is not visible to those who are not logged in.

I will remember to not post private comments in Coed discussions in the future. Sorry I broke the rules. I won't think about the lovelies for a few minutes as penance.

My understanding is that amber does not spend a lot time reading the threads so she very well may not know this is here to respond. I can say from personal experience that her BCD skills are top notch and she is VERY attentive to who is in front of her at the moment. We all have our strengths and weaknesses and no one is perfect. I hope she gets another chance to show you why she is so well reviewed.

If private communication isn't allowed, why are the private tags valid? They do appear to work, as the private comment is not visible to those who are not logged in. Originally Posted by Rover14

By private communication I am referring to PM's, emails, text messages. Rule 9 of the Forum Guidelines is quite clear about the posting of such things...

#9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails, PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.

As you can see, Rule 9 does not make any distinction about the information being within PRIVATE tags.

I will remember to not post private comments in Coed discussions in the future. Sorry I broke the rules. I won't think about the lovelies for a few minutes as penance. Originally Posted by Rover14

I've got your penance right here...

I will take this opportunity to remind everyone that no form of private communication is allowed to be posted in these forums.

Thank you. Originally Posted by Mokoa

If private communication isn't allowed, why are the private tags valid? They do appear to work, as the private comment is not visible to those who are not logged in.

I will remember to not post private comments in Coed discussions in the future. Sorry I broke the rules. I won't think about the lovelies for a few minutes as penance. Originally Posted by Rover14

Forum rule #9 - No form of private communications between members are to be posted in our forums. This includes the contents of emails, PMs, IMs, private chat logs, privately shared images, etc. This is an invasion of another's privacy and will not be allowed.

I think Mokoa us referring to private messages between members. For example, if I send you a PM, email, or text. You are not allowed to post what I stated in said message.

It does not pertain to PRIVATE tags. So we can still use them as we see fit.

I'm thinking you are right JJ; however, talking to Rover14 off line ---> I'm not sure if that is his understanding right now. I think he might believe the PRIVATE tags are NOT to be used here. If I'm wrong - I apologize in advance.

Back on track - I agree with atxdream in that I know Amber personally and her business skills are and have been excellent.

GentlemanCaller007 wrote in part:
".....You never know. It's only been a short time. I would PM her and say, "I thought we were meeting Easter evening. What happened?"....."

Just my personal thought ===> hopefully that would have been done prior to originating this thread

I had a serious case of lust on Easter Sunday. Unfortunately, I was unable to synchronize my own schedule (that included afternoon dinner with friends) with those of a couple of my faves.

Looking for alternatives, I PM'd a couple other providers, including Amber the Housekeeper. However, I did not hear back from her until late Monday afternoon:

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Wow, I thought -- gotta give this girl credit for trying. I called, identified myself, and let her know that my place wasn't presentable. But would she like to meet me at one of my favorite steak houses by the Big Boots; and, if she felt comfortable with me (she never mentioned references), we'd repair to her incall for an hour afterward?

That sounded great to her, and we agreed to meet at 7:00 PM. Having given a description of myself, I told her I'd be waiting at the bar.

On the way, I wondered to myself: Did I mention to her that dinner was off the clock? I thought I had. However, knowing that she'd been "stiffed" by a client early this year ( see her alert at http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=355797 ), I decided to leave nothing to chance, and sent her the following text msg:

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Had she not been "OK with that", I expected a call back, so we could either compromise on the hourly rate for that part of the date, or call off the date altogether, with no hard feelings on either's part. However, having heard nothing in reply, I called at 6:44, to let her know I'd arrived, and was sitting at the bar; no answer (busy driving, perhaps?), so I left a message.

7:09 -- Called again. Hung up after 3-4 rings.

7:19 -- No answer. Left a message: 7:27 -- I heard a voice after a couple of rings. "Hi, this is Gary." There was a lot of noise around me; since I could hear nothing at the other end, I almost shout, "Hello? Hello?" Nothing. I hung up.

7:38 -- I called to let her know I was about to leave. After 3-4 rings, I hung up, leaving no message.

I can only imagine that my text message, however well-intended, must have touched a raw nerve. If that was the case, I deserved at least a, "Hey, what kind of crap are you trying to pull..." not a scuttled date, followed by the "silent treatment." Originally Posted by GaryVee

Hi,

Interesting....she returned you're request a day late; agreed to meet for dinner without letting you know if that is included or not in her dinner rate; nor did she text or call to confirm she was on the way.....hmmmm...

Don't know what to tell ya....

I'm, also, surprised her girlfriends haven't notified of this thread.....

Sincerely,
Wet