DISCRETION. A man standing outside of a hotel or apt. door, knocking is not discreet at all. Rather it draws far TOO much attention. ESP, when a man approaches said door and is LOUD as heck as he announces his hello's at the door. For crying out loud. Hush. Speak softly until your in the room/apt and the door is closed and then step away from the door before making your vocal pleasantries.
And IF she left her door ajar, then she's surely expecting her date and will be well aware if someone else were to walk in.
FYI, it's not odd at all for men to enter said room/apt w.o knocking when they were instructed by their female date to do so.
Men who find it odd are men who don't understand the true meaning of discretion and how things are done in this adult lifestyle. And those tend to be men who ignore a ladies request.
This is not the RW. Things here in adult fantasyland will be a bit different and for good reason. Discretion for all parties.
Originally Posted by Wicked Milf
I agree with you 100% about the need for discretion, but I have some issues with the points you are trying to make. First, knocking at a door is not indiscreet. It does not draw unwanted attention. It is normal activity. I think some here are a bit paranoid when it comes to knocking on doors in a hotel environment. It is common courtesy. When I'm on business and have to go to a colleagues room even when he or she is expecting me, I knock. When I'm with my family and I step out of the room even with a key, upon returning I knock and let them know it is me coming back. Personally, I'd find it suspicious to see someone in the hall duck into a room without knocking or without using a key card to get in. To me, that would draw much more attention than someone doing what is the normal act when confronted with a closed/locked door. That would be to knock.
Second, who yells, or is loud, or is boisterous when approaching and knocking on a door. I've never seen that unless it is a group of guys heading back in after a night on the town. Maybe it is just me, but when I go see a lady at her incall hotel, I act like I belong there. That means being quiet, not drawing attention to myself, but still smiling and making common courtesy nods or greetings to other guests or hotel staff. I act is if I'm on a business trip and act natural.
Third, if she leaves the door ajar, yes anyone can walk in. That's the point-- anyone can walk in. Let's say the lady is staying on the 4th floor of a hotel. Her date calls her and says he has arrived. What does he mean by arrived. He's 2 minutes from pulling into the hotel? He's just getting out of the car? He's in the lobby? He's on the elevator? You don't know what he means by "just arrived". He could be 5 minutes from walking in your door that is left ajar. In those 5 minutes, housekeeping could come by, someone from the staff could come by and be curious as to why the door is ajar, etc, etc, etc. You never know. I remember one time while on vacation, we left the "do not disturb" sign on the door for the first 2 days we were there. We didn't need any service as we re-used our towels and washclothes. On the 3rd day, there was a note under our door when we got back for the evening. That note said that by hotel policy, they had to do a welfare check on us. You just don't know what the staff may do if you do something out of the ordinary.
Fourth, you are overgeneralizing when you say men who ignore a ladies request are being indiscreet. I value discretion and confidentiality above all else in the hobby. My first rule is to always be a gentleman.