Man with 30 children begs court for help with child support

Maybe if those mothers didn't have the safety-net they wouldn't be so quick to have children that they might not otherwise be able to afford. Or consider other options such as adoption. Originally Posted by heatherelite

And what is your answer for the women who have the children, and only afterwards need the safety net...through losing their jobs, or the father abandoning them, or whatever other reason?

Is there abuse? Of course, just as there's abuse of the system at the other end of the scale, with the well off abusing the system to financially further their ends.

More than 3 or 4 times i've suggested on here that if someone has an idea to rid the system of the abusers, while at the same time insuring that those who truly need the system are not harmed, i'm all ears. In those 3 or 4 times, i've not heard one idea in response. Until then, i'm willing to hold my nose and put up with the abuse in order to assist those who legitimately need it.

There are too many people here (I can speak for far too many) who choose public assitance over a minimum wage job because welfare-pathetically enough-pays more. There's something seriously wrong with this society when members think that way.

There's also something seriously wrong with a society where a 40 hour work week pays the same scraps that someone can get on welfare. Unfortunately, we need to take the bad with the good.

What happens Doove when you need help? And I? And every other person in this country? Then who exactly is going to be working to pay for these services?

That'll never happen, Heather. Come on, you're smarter than that.

enabling people to the point where they become slaves is not compassion its demonic

and the people that fight to keep the handout flowing have more disrespect for humans and the inherant ability of human beings to become great , but given the fact they will have a safety net, will never be pushed, they will never come to realize just how great they can be when they discover the God given talent they where born with. Originally Posted by JONBALLS

Where do you get this stuff? Nevermind, i think i know.

Jon - Every now and then you really let it shine, great, Great post!! Originally Posted by Perryay

Yeah, i'll give him credit, he did a great job of making it sound as if his/your utter lack of compassion for your fellow man is actually a good thing.

You can convince yourself of anything, i suppose.

"Where do you get this stuff? Nevermind, i think i know"

???? you in favor of most being slaves?????? I do not to be a slave, or live in a slave nation. crap! in some ways, already is.

welfare is slavery. Gov turning SSI into life time answer to your master. And the free Obama cell phone is the slave tracking chip with out the operation. Or did you know if some that have one. Its used to control them.

JB made a great post on that one.

edit: and extending unemployment is nothing but turning that into a slave tool also.

Obama care is also a slave master tool. All hail to master Obama.

more add: as to the guy with 30 kids. Cut his nuts off. With him being fully awake and no pain killers.

You're a nice enough guy, OSD, but i'm takin' the gloves off on this one.

???? you in favor of most being slaves?????? I do not to be a slave, or live in a slave nation. crap! in some ways, already is.

welfare is slavery. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Obviously you've never been a slave. Maybe try it sometime, i'm sure it'll be quite the eye opener for ya.

Gov turning SSI into life time answer to your master. And the free Obama cell phone is the slave tracking chip with out the operation. Or did you know if some that have one. Its used to control them.

The cell phone was explained to you once. Maybe even twice. Yet you feel the need to ignore the reality of it.

If you won't take my word for it, try here.

Short version: The concept was started under Reagan....and advanced further under Bush. Suggesting otherwise is naive at best, willfully ignorant at worst. And since it was already explained to you at least once, i think it's probably the latter.

JB made a great post on that one.

And if i was an angry white man who hated and looked down upon poor people who had to convince myself i wasn't an angry white man who hated and looked down upon poor people, i'd think so too.

edit: and extending unemployment is nothing but turning that into a slave tool also.

Obama care is also a slave master tool. All hail to master Obama.

All i can do is just shake my head.

extending unemployment is nothing but turning that into a slave tool also.

Obama care is also a slave master. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

"Freedom" is all that matters, including freedom to starve when you are out of work through no fault of your own, and freedom to die when you get sick.

yup that right jack

Doove the free cell phone was passed out the most under Obama. It is used as a slave tool to control under HIS administration. Its a fact that I have not read anywhere. But have see in the real world. They have no right to control folks on SSI as they do with that fucking free cell. Folks that turned down to have one where forced by Obama to take one if they wanted it or not. Then if not acted as s worker wanted. hold back on the ssi. WTF be free even to fuck up as 30 kids guy did. Now cut his nuts off.

we payin to enslave are self's

both side guilty

OSD, i feel pretty comfortable in simply letting your last post speak for itself.

so you ok with using cell phone to control SSI slave. Yup the democrats where the slave owners before the the civil war. And still own most of the slaves to this day. Shit out another kid for a welfare raise. Make the rich pay. the rich in flip flops asking to raise the tax are good. the rich in wing tips bad.

I understand that life is simpler when everything is black-and-white and dogmatic bravado replaces putting oneself in others' shoes.

And if i was an angry white man who hated and looked down upon poor people who had to convince myself i wasn't an angry white man who hated and looked down upon poor people, i'd think so too.
. Originally Posted by Doove

my money's on you being a black man trapped in a womans body

so you ok with using cell phone to control SSI slave. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

I'm guessing there's a reason "it's a fact that you have not read anywhere".

But since you're so opposed to the very idea of using cell phones to control people on SSI, then can we assume you're also against using drug testing to control people on SSI?

no on reading but, I have seen it done. no so far for drug testing. Yet, but yes on welfare and food stamps. along with they need to be finger printed for them.

But the problem with SSI today is the give it out much to easily to the point it is becoming lifetime welfare. So some day they may have to start drug test and finger print.

no on reading but, I have seen it done. no so far for drug testing. Yet, but yes on welfare and food stamps. along with they need to be finger printed for them.

But the problem with SSI today is the give it out much to easily to the point it is becoming lifetime welfare. So some day they may have to start drug test and finger print. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Do i really need to say it? Or can you just figure it out on your own?

Quote:What happens Doove when you need help? And I? And every other person in this country? Then who exactly is going to be working to pay for these services?

That'll never happen, Heather. Come on, you're smarter than that.

providers who pay taxes on their earnings and work 30 hrs/wk at a minimun wage job that also pays into the system and never taking anything from it will support you

guessing you have to say it. SSI is not welfare. But when they let welfare folks in for a broken toe nail. that is lifetime welfare. ahhh poor baby you so bad off with that broken nail doing what you have to do just to stay on welfare. Here have some SSI so ya never have to do a thing again. Oh and have this free phone so we in gov that take care of you always know what ya doing. We can't have you working as a doorman at a bar. now can we

Quote:What happens Doove when you need help? And I? And every other person in this country? Then who exactly is going to be working to pay for these services?

That'll never happen, Heather. Come on, you're smarter than that.

providers who pay taxes on their earnings and work 30 hrs/wk at a minimun wage job that also pays into the system and never taking anything from it will support you Originally Posted by naughtynikki84