This is why I RECOMMEND P411~

Tricks:

Text the reference number and pretend you're him. Example: Hey _____ it's me John Doe, remember?

Usually they text right back (need business, eh?)

Then playfully say...no you don't remember me. What do I look like? What tattoo do I have? What'd we talk about.

She confirms. Then text back NEVERMIND

Too many girls were too petty about references. I'll never have a p411 so this is my only way. I tell the guys that I texted pretending to be them and we chuckle
Or I batt my lashes and sweetly tell them to never see their reference again because she's a total birch and was mean to me - that works too! Originally Posted by misspriss

the rocket science factory misses you

the rocket science factory misses you Originally Posted by monkmonk

IKR - I'm going through my bucket list. After this, I'm going to barista for a few months and of course Taxidermy (if I can stomach it) and then I'll be back to Rocket Science.

Of course, we all know I'm much more skilled in brain surgery. Too bad the nurses were so petty, could've saw myself making a real career out of that one!

I agree especially when Im traveling Im only in another ares for a couple days by the time the reference gets back to me iv left thru customers city. With p411 its a lot faster. Personally I try to get back to reference checks asap but p411 is the shit lol

[Making note to scratch misspriss off my short list.] So, to quote the OP,

Some of these women are down right catty if a provider calls and I'm NOT GOING to LET some catty hooker piss me off for the day.

Trying not to let a catty hooker ruin my day either, so I'll just throw in my .02 to confirm Kaylee's observations from the other side of this street. I got verified through P411 years ago. Even though I don't hobby often enough to make the annual fee seem to make much sense, I can assure you that i would probably never get nookie without it. My schedule opens up rare opportunities, for pretty short windows. The only way for me to get an appointment is to get pre-approved, then wait for my window and hers to conjugate (so that I can conjugate). Just as one example, Kaylee has pre-approved me, but we have yet to hook up because damned luck has prevented it. I'll fix that as soon as I can.


And my screening by P411 was pretty painless, even though at the time I was self-employed and had very precious few hobby skins on the wall. Gina (or her assistant, or whoever) contacted the only references I could give, and got an answer because they knew they wanted to continue to do business with Gina. She also called my receptionist, and very discreetly asked for me in a way that implied that she was a potential client, so no suspicions were ever raised. Painless.


Guys, it's worth the screening, and worth the fee.

Maybe if we were all more memorable....

"But she said I was great!"
"I wear loud Hawaiian shirts!"
"I'm the guy who lost my flash drive."
"Tell her I was the one who forgot to pay her..I mean, at least not all..."
"I spilled beer on the rug by the coffee table"

You see...we're just a faceless mass of humanity buying into IOP. Now I'll bet the cat who died on Kaylee, and the dudes who practiced their high velocity rectal evacuations or dropped a duece in the bed...those guys get remembered...but for some reason I wouldn't want to be remembered for that sort of thing.

And P411 is gonna fix that for us? You're gonna run right to P411 and OK us before we're out of the parking lot, unless we're rate busting assholes or bedwetters? Hmmmmm

I am fairly new to this, are you saying P411 will cause you to NOT have to contact other providers because of the verification process or that you prefer it in addition to references?

I ask because I am normally a fairly short notice type of person because of my schedule.

I do not mind being screened but if P411 will speed up the process than that is great. Originally Posted by shrtput

P411 defiantly speeds up the process...

When you book an appointment and visit with a lady on p411 she then can go back and give you what they call a provider okay... when you try to book with the next lady they can then go back and look at your profile and see that you have a provider okays and that you are not a weirdo or cop.

When you are not on p411 and you are relying on girls you have seen in the past to give you references a few things can go wrong...

1) The providers dont respond in time to make the appointment happen... I actually had a provider get back to me this past week for a request I sent in over a month ago.

2) The provider gets jealous and does not give a request out of spite

3) The provider then calls you up and says she will do it for cheaper if u come back to see her instead... (yes this does happen and has happened to me recently, the gent told me what the girl did and he couldn't believe it and neither could I!)

Then as I mentioned above each girl seems to have different a different policy for how she wants to receive reference requests. I have been cursed out more than once by contacting providers by phone when that is the only info the client has given me to track her down.

Giving a name and phone number only as a reference is pretty much useless to me at this point. A few times being cursed out is enough. I always ask for links to their eccie or p411 profiles so I can contact them that way. When you include that info upon initial contact it saves us a lot of time by not having to get to a computer and track down that info.

I advise everyone to get p411 to avoid these types of things. Also the area where you can write a little about yourself and what u like and dont like is very helpful to us prior to a first time visit.

Hope this helps...

Hmmmm....

IKR - I'm going through my bucket list. After this, I'm going to barista for a few months and of course Taxidermy (if I can stomach it) and then I'll be back to Rocket Science.

Of course, we all know I'm much more skilled in brain surgery. Too bad the nurses were so petty, could've saw myself making a real career out of that one! Originally Posted by misspriss

OU has a horseshoeing school on I35.

When you book an appointment and visit with a lady on p411 she then can go back and give you what they call a provider okay... when you try to book with the next lady they can then go back and look at your profile and see that you have a provider okays...... Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

.....and then the next lady sees an okay from the last lady who she doesn't like, and she declines to see him if he's seen me...I mean, the lady in question.

Don't get me started on how getting a review is like pulling teeth when you share the same hobbyist fans with a cock-blocking provider, toting a posse of WK's behind her. They lose in the long run anyway but I'm just saying. In the meanwhile, it's freakin annoying!

Quite a few of ECCIE's most applauded providers are the worst about this. I get p411 requests REGULARLY, asking, "please, when you check my okays, don't ask Ms. _____ ______ for a reference; she has made it clear if I see you, no more nookie".

Gag me with a Trojan.

So bitches are going to cock block no matter what. But yeah, p411 does make it easier compared to other methods, and it's a great tool for newbie hobbyists.

I wanted to throw it out there why I recommend getting a preferred411 account.

For starters, for a provider, it is way EASY for us to use! Make it easy for us ladies to screen you, the better results for YOU as a hobbyist. Now, granted I have NO PROBLEM sending emails and contacting the providers on my own if need be. But here is the problem. A HUGE number of providers will NOT bother emailing the provider back. Or if so, it will be days or weeks later before you hear from her. I NEVER call a provider ever. Some of these women are down right catty if a provider calls and I'm NOT GOING to LET some catty hooker piss me off for the day.

To me, as a hobbyist, I would think a p411 account would be the way to go. As a provider, I can pop on your profile, read it and see what you like. Take a look your provider okays and make a judgement call on weather or not I feel like I can give you a good time or not. Also, if a provider wants to contact any of these providers directly, their contact info is right there for us to see. A p411 acct makes things so quicker for everyone so we can get down to hot adult fun faster!
P411 is the easy button of the hobby world!

Originally Posted by Kayleehotchick

Once again, You've stated, eloquently, exactly what I wish I had thought to say.
Encouraging.

The problem I have with the service is the price point. I don 't hobby enough to justify the fee. I do use Date Check though its not as popular as P411, but with their lifetime fee I can use it just a few times and get my moneys worth. It works roughly the same if I remember right so I don't get the big $ difference.

The problem I have with the service is the price point. I don 't hobby enough to justify the fee. I do use Date Check though its not as popular as P411, but with their lifetime fee I can use it just a few times and get my moneys worth. It works roughly the same if I remember right so I don't get the big $ difference. Originally Posted by Sensei

P411 also has a lifetime fee. As for DC, I wish I could see when the woman last accessed the site. Many of the profiles are of women who have vanished years ago.

P411 also has a lifetime fee. As for DC, I wish I could see when the woman last accessed the site. Many of the profiles are of women who have vanished years ago. Originally Posted by S-Man

They may have a LT rate, but their yearly rate is more than DC's LT rate. I believe you can see when they last logged on. But I normally use a Providers site to start my research, then use their DC link to check their profile there and send them a request from DC. If a provider does not have a DC link they sometimes will ask for your DC id on their form. Its usually the visiting ladies I need a service for since "some" Providers will not accept local Providers as references. I have enough references for the locals.

I must have clicked on the wrong link. When I attempted to send a provider a request from DC, it was a mailto link which prompted me to send the request from my own email account.

I just avoid all the bullshit and drama of indies by going to AMPs and get a much better overall experience.