Advice for a newbie?

In hindsight, I would recommend P411. There are many ladies on both Eccie and P411.

For me, I started with a handful of girls who did BP and Eccie, and was able to get established.

It took a while doing it this way, but has been one hell of a fun ride. I have memories from the last two years to last a lifetime. I cannot think of one bad moment.

I always recommend in this situation a p411 account.

ALWAYS keep in mind, and IT HAS HAPPENED, that sometimes even the most sought after and reputable providers go haywire. If they have your personal info, they can completely destroy your job and personal life. I always try to mitigate any risk by making sure I don't leave myself vunerable.

I started out the same way Perfect Gentleman said. P411 and newbie friendly providers. Once I had a few under my belt, I was golden. Now I never have any problems seeing any providers..........

Well, except for the ones who actually read what I say in my posts. LOL

Good luck and I hope you find what your looking for. If I can offer any more help, feel free to PM me any time.

also, when you ask to meet, it is never for sex, it is just a date. never incriminate yourself or the provider. I made this mistake initially, and I would never hear back from a provider.

do canadian ladies screen? just curious..why would they ..its legal there..right..
im just askin...in regards to vouchin..its hard for me to ask a lady that doesnt screen if the man is cool...i mean like this..for exapmle..an le gent goes cross the border to see provider that doesnt screen and he obviously cant arrest her cuz..he's outa the juristiction..yet comes back and contacts a local lady and uses the canadian lady as a vouch..CL vouches ..le gets in to see local lady and then arrests her..thats my concern..we aint that far from the border..

Many ladies have incall in their HOME. Same concept for us. We risk it every time, just so we can pay the bills.
Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

You're absolutely right! And when I see these girls doing incalls at their houses, I think the EXACT same thing. I know we all have different sensitivities for risk, but I don't know how they justify the risks they're accepting by bringing clients to their homes.

What does a hotel cost these days? Maybe $50 daily in Upstate if you're a little bit internet savvy? I've known girls that cleared $2k daily working. Let's say that's extreme, and a girl brings in $600 daily. Is the security of her home worth risking for $50? I don't just mean being robbed - I mean neighbors complaining about traffic and being evicted, a client having a meltdown and making a scene in her home, etc.

The security and references issue cuts both ways. The girls have every right to ask for whatever they think they need to in order to feel secure (and personally, I totally respect that). But guys should understand that they have power in this dynamic too. There is no shortage of quality, nice girls working who don't require a ton of hoops. Unless a specific provider is just reeeeeaaaaaallllllllly on your radar and you MUST have her, guys would do well to tell a provider that he thinks her screening is onerous, but do it with his wallet and his feet, not his mouth.

You're absolutely right! And when I see these girls doing incalls at their houses, I think the EXACT same thing. I know we all have different sensitivities for risk, but I don't know how they justify the risks they're accepting by bringing clients to their homes.

What does a hotel cost these days? Maybe $50 daily in Upstate if you're a little bit internet savvy? I've known girls that cleared $2k daily working. Let's say that's extreme, and a girl brings in $600 daily. Is the security of her home worth risking for $50? I don't just mean being robbed - I mean neighbors complaining about traffic and being evicted, a client having a meltdown and making a scene in her home, etc.

The security and references issue cuts both ways. The girls have every right to ask for whatever they think they need to in order to feel secure (and personally, I totally respect that). But guys should understand that they have power in this dynamic too. There is no shortage of quality, nice girls working who don't require a ton of hoops. Unless a specific provider is just reeeeeaaaaaallllllllly on your radar and you MUST have her, guys would do well to tell a provider that he thinks her screening is onerous, but do it with his wallet and his feet, not his mouth. Originally Posted by oliassunhillow

wait..where are the hotels up here that are 50 bucks and the bugs arent carrien her stuff out the door..and second...if the girl is clearing 2000 daily damn her rate is like 500 a pop or she's doin about 9 to 25 visits a day..that wont get noticed at a hotel of that caliber..lol...some ladies dont wanna do hotels..they are more comfortable in their own homes...

look for the sake of not arguen....find a respectable lady thats not on a habit..that asks for info that isnt too intrusive im sure you both can come to terms...and have fun..dont ask questions and just go with the flow...if you stick to a reputable provider.. check out the reviews on this site and take the plunge..oh and have fun..

where are the hotels up here that are 50 bucks and the bugs arent carrien her stuff out the door. Originally Posted by anita germane

Go on sites like Kayak or Priceline, specify the town and general area you want, and you will get a hotel for $50 daily. You won't get to pick the specific hotel you want, but you can get a perfectly acceptable place (Red Roof Inn, Super 8, something like that - not a Gates Motel type of place) in any of the major upstate metro areas.

Go on sites like Kayak or Priceline, specify the town and general area you want, and you will get a hotel for $50 daily. You won't get to pick the specific hotel you want, but you can get a perfectly acceptable place (Red Roof Inn, Super 8, something like that - not a Gates Motel type of place) in any of the major upstate metro areas. Originally Posted by oliassunhillow

thats not true suga..sorry to tell ya..unless you have a coupon for a free nite your not gonna get a hotel for that amount except the gates..ijs..and also..the redroof here is placed right in front of the local RPD...and where is the super 8/motel6? across the street from the microtell and the red roof which is still in front of the police dept.....even red carpet inn is more than 50bucks..lol...really im not trying to disrespect the RPD like that..ijs..

Anita, have you ever used priceline? It really does work.

yes... i have.. and my rates were not 50 bucks..they were a heck of alot more ...even when i traveled to buffalo..which btw fella's..havent heard from buffalo in regards to my trip there..what no love..?
also...i have way tooooo much respect to post up and lay out in front of the police dept here..ijs..

I'll be sure not to miss seeing you! The last time was awesome! Originally Posted by SweetElizabeth

Is there a video? Details are needed ...



Back to the original question ... as always I advocate the newbies to download porn and buy lube.

I know first hand from a Bestie that works front deal at a Marriott that they look at BP daily for face pics and that they make a note of single Ladies checking in that use priceline.

yes... i have.. and my rates were not 50 bucks..they were a heck of alot more ...even when i traveled to buffalo..which btw fella's..havent heard from buffalo in regards to my trip there..what no love..?
also...i have way tooooo much respect to post up and lay out in front of the police dept here..ijs.. Originally Posted by anita germane

Well, if I knew you were coming to Buffalo, TX I would have contacted you before now.

You're absolutely right! And when I see these girls doing incalls at their houses, I think the EXACT same thing. I know we all have different sensitivities for risk, but I don't know how they justify the risks they're accepting by bringing clients to their homes.

What does a hotel cost these days? Maybe $50 daily in Upstate if you're a little bit internet savvy? I've known girls that cleared $2k daily working. Let's say that's extreme, and a girl brings in $600 daily. Is the security of her home worth risking for $50? I don't just mean being robbed - I mean neighbors complaining about traffic and being evicted, a client having a meltdown and making a scene in her home, etc.

The security and references issue cuts both ways. The girls have every right to ask for whatever they think they need to in order to feel secure (and personally, I totally respect that). But guys should understand that they have power in this dynamic too. There is no shortage of quality, nice girls working who don't require a ton of hoops. Unless a specific provider is just reeeeeaaaaaallllllllly on your radar and you MUST have her, guys would do well to tell a provider that he thinks her screening is onerous, but do it with his wallet and his feet, not his mouth. Originally Posted by oliassunhillow

wait..where are the hotels up here that are 50 bucks and the bugs arent carrien her stuff out the door..and second...if the girl is clearing 2000 daily damn her rate is like 500 a pop or she's doin about 9 to 25 visits a day..that wont get noticed at a hotel of that caliber..lol...some ladies dont wanna do hotels..they are more comfortable in their own homes...

look for the sake of not arguen....find a respectable lady thats not on a habit..that asks for info that isnt too intrusive im sure you both can come to terms...and have fun..dont ask questions and just go with the flow...if you stick to a reputable provider.. check out the reviews on this site and take the plunge..oh and have fun.. Originally Posted by anita germane

AND HAVE FUN!!

I'm with Anita here. So many times ladies are referred to as making soooo much cash. Well, I, for one, am not a revolving door operating 24/7. My rates are extremely reasonible. I'm all for incall at hotels/motels, incall at the home (depends on the lady), and outcall. I enjoy incall in my home the most, especially for overnights. Does that $60 - $100 makes a HUGE difference to me in how I live? Absolutely!!! It's not like I get 6 calls a day 7 days a week! Some weeks I am near broke, other weeks I am alright. I have never truly "gotten ahead." A good week normally goes to a mechanical fix or something else that needs caught up on, like a pedi/hair/new outfit/scotch

I find that the legit providers who offer incall have great people skills, and are more able to handle a "bad call." (This is a loose statement.) Reputable providers also have better TCB skills. If a provider is watching her ass at work, she is surely doubling that at the homefront.

Is it scary to have people an incall that is your home? YES! We are, after all, providers, though. Stalkers and creeps will go to many lengths, even if they do not know where a lady lives, to find her. To me, every call is dangerous, no matter where you are. Do I trust a gent more as time goes on? Of course!

Some notes about hotels: If you want a 10am meet, the provider needs to be there the night before or the provider needs to be able to check in at such an early time. If ya check in that early, the owners know what you are doing. There are not as many lower cost hotels. Even if you do find one, the frequency of the same face is dangerous unless you get along well with the owners. Additionally, a.m. appointments run into housekeeping staff - more to deal with.... Also, how many lower cost hotels are there in any given area? PLUS some are just an obviously no no to work out of.

honestly why would i book a hotel in my own city when me and my suitors can be more comfy at my location...i am not comphy in hostles ...then my rates will jump and im sure ill be put outa biz..no...my clientele doesnt come to were i can justify getting a hotel everytime someone books..this is rochester..we have 300 providers to every hobbyist..
sweets is right... i cannot justify getting a hostle everytime a gent books...he doesnt show..im out..
i cannot afford that..ijs...my rates are low cuz my overhead is low...and if he doesnt show what do i do..eat it..come on..i cannot afford that...