The Egyptians can have whatever government they want. I just think it's hypocritical that we helped them install an Islamist regime. Mubarak would not have been overthrown without US assistance.
That's all, Timmy. Sorry you don't understand. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
The Egyptians can have whatever government they want. I just think it's hypocritical that we helped them install an Islamist regime. Mubarak would not have been overthrown without US assistance.I understand perfectly. You're making up stories again.
That's all, Timmy. Sorry you don't understand. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
You got any? I'll concede Obama wasn't going to take any action to support Mubarak once it became clear that the majority of Egyptians wanted him gone. Are you saying that we should have actively interfered in what was clearly an internal political struggle in Egypt? In order to prevent an Islamist regime from taking power? Wouldn't that be a violation of your libertarian/isolationist philosophy? And, what exactly is it that you think we could have done to prevent what happened? Originally Posted by timpageOr to go a step further...what would Gary Johnson have done?
I understand perfectly. You're making up stories again.Obama took credit for the Arab Spring. Not me. He actively supported the Muslim Brotherhood. That is interference. I don't care what the Egyptians do, but I do care that they are doing with our money, and our support. Non-intervention means non-intervention. No money, no hardware, no troops. Let them determine for themselves.
I'm sorry COG, but you simply saying the US overthrew Mubarak does not make it so. I get that your brand of logic dictates, at least to you, that whatever ridiculous assertions you care to make are true. But, some of the rest of us still need to rely on facts.
You got any? I'll concede Obama wasn't going to take any action to support Mubarak once it became clear that the majority of Egyptians wanted him gone. Are you saying that we should have actively interfered in what was clearly an internal political struggle in Egypt? In order to prevent an Islamist regime from taking power? Wouldn't that be a violation of your libertarian/isolationist philosophy? And, what exactly is it that you think we could have done to prevent what happened?
The fact is, you don't like what you perceive at this time to be the outcome in Egypt. And if you don't like it, as with everything else that happens politically that you don't like, in your pea-brain it must somehow be President Obama's fault. So, you make shit up out of thin air to support the assertion. I guess another way to put it would be that you are what you constantly accuse President Obama of being: a liar. Originally Posted by timpage
Obama took credit for the Arab Spring. Not me. He actively supported the Muslim Brotherhood. That is interference. I don't care what the Egyptians do, but I do care that they are doing with our money, and our support. Non-intervention means non-intervention. No money, no hardware, no troops. Let them determine for themselves. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyLinks please.
Links please. Originally Posted by markroxny
Links please. Originally Posted by markroxny
Obama took credit for the Arab Spring. Not me. He actively supported the Muslim Brotherhood. That is interference. I don't care what the Egyptians do, but I do care that they are doing with our money, and our support. Non-intervention means non-intervention. No money, no hardware, no troops. Let them determine for themselves.How did Obama actively support the Muslim Brotherhood? Specifically. Links, cites, any support at all for your statement.
And then to brag about the changes being made, when those changes include limiting the rights of women, and re-instating slavery makes this President look like a fool. Which he is.
I wasn't criticizing the changes being made in Egypt. I was criticizing the hypocritical stand and policies of this administration concerning the changes.
And yes, I will criticize Obama when he deserves it. Trouble is, he deserves it a lot. He is a dishonest, corrupt and incompetent President. That hasn't changed, even though he was re-elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0 Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Here are some links. We already know that Obama has supported Morsi. And at least Mubarak held to the Camp David accords, but I still don't support sending them money or hardware. You are the one who is blind, Timmy.Read you links, they don't back up your assertions. Tim's questions still stand.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...g-cairo-speech
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2...spring-update/ Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Tim's questions are stupid. And my links are fine. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyStupid because you can't give specific intelligent answers to them? Read them again, and I dare you to answer them with specific citations. (of course we know you can't)
How did Obama actively support the Muslim Brotherhood? Specifically. Links, cites, any support at all for your statement.
When did Obama brag about limiting the rights of women and whatever slavery issue you are talking about. Specifically. Links, cites, any support at all for your statement.
And we've been giving money and lots of great hardware to Egypt forever. Why do you think Mubarak was our friend? I presume you advocated the idea of pulling all US aid to Egypt back when Mubarak was running the show then, right? Since that would be interference? And intervention? You are so full of shit. Originally Posted by timpage
Tim's questions are stupid. And my links are fine. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuyMy questions aren't stupid, you just can't answer them.
