Property owners - a proposal

Brooke Wilde's Avatar
I have had great luck on HAR 3 times. Then once I find a place I like, I use this place (http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=601713) to fill in any blanks I may have on my application. It works like a charm.

I would avoid renting from a hobbiest directly, while it may work out great, he will have leverage over you and it is also opening him up to liability issues. Allowing someone to use your space to conduct this type of business is a crime in its self.

Also the further you go into the suburbs, the harder it is to be discreet. I will only work out of buildings (condos or lofts). No houses or townhouse for me.
Mojojo's Avatar
Lol, too damn far is relative to your location. Those areas ARE under-represented, after all, and convenient to my traffic-hating self. Originally Posted by theCFE
You don't have to take my word for it.

I should've stayed in the Galleria part 1

I should've stayed in the Galleria Part 2

Not to mention the millions of threads that frequently come up which ask "Where is the best place to stay at?" that always end in......The Galleria.
I have had great luck on HAR 3 times. Then once I find a place I like, I use this place (http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=601713) to fill in any blanks I may have on my application. It works like a charm.

I would avoid renting from a hobbiest directly, while it may work out great, he will have leverage over you and it is also opening him up to liability issues. Allowing someone to use your space to conduct this type of business is a crime in its self.

Also the further you go into the suburbs, the harder it is to be discreet. I will only work out of buildings (condos or lofts). No houses or townhouse for me. Originally Posted by Brooke Wild
what she said.
I recommend just off of 288 near downtown and the med center or the Galleria. Both have multiple business centers around and freeways for access. One thing to consider is drive to it from all different directions. You don't want your friends getting lost getting to you or to get caught in a swarm of traffic. Some places in the Galleria will make rush hour appointments impossible.

Look for places that don't have front windows. Some place that has a hallway to access the unit something like a high or mid rise.

If there is security, make sure you can activate all the security (elevator an gate) remotely from your cell.

If you have an incall mate remember you have to have a fall back location. Missing out on two engagements is more than the rent you split.

If you have an incall mate, use Google calendar. It really helps and can be seen on your smart phone. Texting back and forth will sooner or later cause a conflict.

Sign a six month lease. You never know.

Obviously laundry in the unit.

Covered parking where you and your visitors are always under cover and not stuck running through the rain.

Keep your rent and expenses to 10% of your gross.

Just some thoughts.

bgood's Avatar
  • bgood
  • 12-13-2012, 04:44 PM
Clear Lake - too damn far
Kemah - way to damn far
Friendswood - still to far
Galleria - Perfect! Everyone knows where this is at.
Kirby - Good area very upscale
Montrose - Nice area
Heights - Nice area
Downtown - Nice area Originally Posted by mojojo213
I agree.
Phil A.Cheaux's Avatar
I recommend just off of 288 near downtown and the med center or the Galleria. Both have multiple business centers around and freeways for access. One thing to consider is drive to it from all different directions. You don't want your friends getting lost getting to you or to get caught in a swarm of traffic. Some places in the Galleria will make rush hour appointments impossible.

Look for places that don't have front windows. Some place that has a hallway to access the unit something like a high or mid rise.

If there is security, make sure you can activate all the security (elevator an gate) remotely from your cell.

If you have an incall mate remember you have to have a fall back location. Missing out on two engagements is more than the rent you split.

If you have an incall mate, use Google calendar. It really helps and can be seen on your smart phone. Texting back and forth will sooner or later cause a conflict.

Sign a six month lease. You never know.

Obviously laundry in the unit.

Covered parking where you and your visitors are always under cover and not stuck running through the rain.

Keep your rent and expenses to 10% of your gross.

Just some thoughts.
Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
Damn thats good advice. Maybe you should earn some extra coin on the side by helping these ladies with a referral service to set their places up.
LOL, it's just things I've learned along the way.
datyking's Avatar
Let me move my SO out and you can stay with me
Fantastic advice, Olivia! You are clearly a class act, thank you.


Keep your rent and expenses to 10% of your gross.
Originally Posted by OliviaHoward
So, assuming my math is correct - rent in most of these areas averages $800-1300 per month, not counting the inevitable short term lease mark up - you're saying I should be grossing between 8-13k monthly to justify that price point? I suppose that may be feasible if I were to do this full time, but I'm only active 12-16 days per month. This might change in the future, but right now that is where I am at. Is there a more reasonable percentage I should be looking at? Keep in mind, I am not the sole wage earner, and I do have a career on the side.
Mojojo's Avatar
Acres home is pretty nice if budget is a problem.
williemac's Avatar
try CHBO- corporate housing my owners. these rentals might be a little on the pricey side but are usually in good locations- nicely furnished with utilities included. most have short term leases of 1 to 3 months.
Fantastic advice, Olivia! You are clearly a class act, thank you.



So, assuming my math is correct - rent in most of these areas averages $800-1300 per month, not counting the inevitable short term lease mark up - you're saying I should be grossing between 8-13k monthly to justify that price point? I suppose that may be feasible if I were to do this full time, but I'm only active 12-16 days per month. This might change in the future, but right now that is where I am at. Is there a more reasonable percentage I should be looking at? Keep in mind, I am not the sole wage earner, and I do have a career on the side. Originally Posted by theCFE
To me it's like this. If you aren't making that kind of money, then what you have to sell off to be a working girl is too much; the price is too high. If you are making at least $10,000 cash a month, then suddenly the balance is more reasonable, and of course more is better. Just remember, and this is what I tell all ladies getting into the business that come to me for help, from your very first post, website, showcase, transaction, whatever, you need to be planning your exit strategy. Like it or not, the demimonde, is socially frowned upon.

With no incall at $300 / 90 minutes (per your website) that's $200 / hour. A PI is what? $25 an hour? Two hours is $35 (I'm just guessing.), that's over 10% right there. If you Priceline a good room in the Galleria, that's $100. You need to book two engagements to justify that or have a few fall back friends that you discount.

Alternatively, that's what an incall mate is for. If you are making $5,000 a month then you can easily afford $500 a month a rent in some other lady's incall. However, it is always best to have the lease and utilities in your name. You could always get an incall (A nice one is about $1,400 all in.) and let ladies pay you rent either on a by use or flat rate. I've done that before too. I let the money stack up $50 at a time until I had a month's rent. (It covered about 1.5 months rent every 6 months.) Sharing an incall works out well if you have 1 1/2 incalls. That is, you have an alternate place.

Remember, you have other fixed expenses too for travel and advertising. For instance, a base ad and advanced placement on EROS is $300 a month. P411 is $250 for advanced placement. If you post frequently on ECCIE, that's sufficient advertisement as far as I'm concerned, but other ladies clearly don't agree. Houston is too big of a market to not advertise effectively. Go Google escort and Houston and see what comes up.

Make a budget.

Advertising: $350 (P411 advanced placement and EROS base ad)
Incall: $500
Travel: I suggest it. You'll be gone 36 - 48 hours and come back with a net anywhere from $2,800 - $3,500 or there abouts. Not bad.
Expense Items: $100
Don't forget to amortize photography too.

That puts you at $950.

If you eliminate the advertising it's $650, but you're cutting your own throat.

If you eliminate the incall, you're still at 10% with a PI.

Follow the math.

And always have a plausible back story. I have another business that is legitimate, will withstand scrutiny and easily explains the money. Sounds like you have one.

Feel free to contact me if any of this makes sense or you have any more questions.

Diabolo's Avatar
Olivia = Boobs, Beauty, Great Attitude and BRAINS... I'm in love !
Guest123018-4's Avatar
IMHO the traffic sucks in the Galleria area.
Hey I am in the clearlake area and have an extra room giimee a shout...bet we could work it out