Couple of questions - Page 2

Back on the old forums, the alerts section was FULL of warning of BP girls who were scams or robbed the john/hobbyist. And a simple tinyeye search will reveal a lot of the girls are fake bots. If you had good luck on there, more power to you. It's a gamble that i personally don't want to play.

I'm not interested in seeing a girl who's been bored out by every member of some online escort forum.
-Arthur Bishop Originally Posted by mrbishop

Then why are you here?

You are all responding to someone who is quite obviously a pimp for some girl on BP that is not getting enough action. If MrBishop were really serious about seeking pleasure then he would certainly know about LE stings and the other issues that are generated by CL and BP girls and would, out of sheer intelligence, stay away from them.
OR
it is summer and he is 16 year old who is out of high school for the summer and is playing here for lack of something intelligent to do.

Either way, I think it is time for the mods to shut this one down.

Either way, I think it is time for the mods to shut this one down. Originally Posted by toyrrific

While I agree that the OP has some shortcoming, I think this is a good discussion.

I would have to agree with Chica's comments.

And as far as screening is concerned, I have never (1) used P411, (2) never given my real name out for screening (some know it, but not in screening phase), and (3) rarely been turned down for lack of screening.

I have had to use references twice back in 2005 and 2006 timeframe. And yes, Gwennith Marie would not see me when I refused to provide references a year or so ago. Can't remember any other request for references or screening.

Do I see BP gals? Well, sure, but most had reviews here or I knew them prior to joining any escort boards.

In any event, this thread, and so many of the 'Logan' threads, offer a lot of good hobby information. No, I don't hobby like Logan, but even for a straight-laced hobbyist like myself, there is information in those threads that can help protect someone from physical harm, emotional anquish, and legal troubles.

Two additional things I can say to all that is; be careful with your choices. With the criteria you exclude, you are ripe to be picked up by LE in a sting. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

LOL! That would NEVER happen, trust me.

So many things I could say to this, but....lets go with.....You should probably be a bit more respectful of the ladies on this and other forums, Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Respectful? To an ESCORT? Please, tell me you are joking... or at least tell me what you're smoking! 75% of escorts are doing it because they are on drugs, the rest of them are doing it because they've been handed things all their lives because of their beauty and thought when they turned 18 the world was going to hand them things for free and, when it didn't, had to quickly find a way to support themselves.

I will also tell you, that off the record and "behind closed doors" many of these girls HATE men in general - they're often molested as kids etc - and many of them hate the situation they're in and blame/resent men for it - I have SEEN and heard it. Most of them are very mean actually, you guys are judging them on the "face" they show you, which is FAR from their real selves, of course. It's in their best interested and in fact, their JOBS, to put on this act for clients. Do you really think escorts are nice, sweet innocent girls who would see you if they weren't being PAID cold hard cash? Let's keep in check with reality here people...

Again, all the escorts are competing for our business - end of discussion. To me, it's really sad that they have somehow been successful at convincing a very small population of johns (i.e., some members of this forum) that they deserve some kind of respect and that it's a "priviledge" to see them.

Just not sure what to say about that, except "Lol". They say there's one born every minute.

Tiger - I agree with you my friend! You seem like a smart man among a crowd of fools - no offense to this board meant by that comment, I'm just really shocked to hear some of the things I'm hearing on this forum. Just telling it like it is...

-Arthur Bishop

Mr. Bishop,

While you may agree with me, I find your comments quite troubling.

I have had a great time here in this little world of our hobby. I have enjoyed some great moments with many ladies. Yes, many of these ladies did not want to be here, maybe they were 'putting on a face' for me. But we were able to enjoy ourselves, and I think they went away in many cases feeling a bit better about themselves, because I treated them with the respect that each and everyone of us deserve.

I suspect that with your methods of seeking out a certain type of provider, you are seeing just one view of the hobby world. And with your attitude, I can assure you that most of the ladies I have seen would prefer that you just pass them right by. They would rather forego your $$ in exchange for keeping what ever the level of dignity they have.

But in the end, there is room for a lot of hobby styles. Some people seek high dollar ladies, and travel in those circles. Some of us seek a class of ladies who can make us feel special. Others seek a quick release and nothing more.

In your case, I think you are looking to feel superior to these ladies. And if they meet your need, and are happy to exchange money for meeting that need, then the free market has worked again.

Bishop, I think that the obvious detail that you are missing is that the only reason that me, you, and the girls are on this website is a mutual desire to get together. A little respect might be the deciding factor on whether the girl that you choose is willing to see you.

Respectful? To an ESCORT? Please, tell me you are joking Originally Posted by mrbishop

Well you better damn well learn to fake it or you won't be part of this community for long.

Just telling it like it is... -rak

Mr Bishop, some of the escorts here may be as you describe, but truly there are many who are truly nice people who are not on drugs, were not molested, and don't hate men. You are judging a population based on a small sample of your own perhaps?

In any case, do not judge others as you have not walked in their shoes. We all have reasons for what we do and you are no better than anyone else on this board, escort or not. You are coming off as arrogant and looking down your nose at the ladies.

Bottom line- ALL people deserve to be treated with respect regardless of who they are. Humility and compassion- look into it.

LOL! That would NEVER happen, trust me.

Respectful? To an ESCORT? Please, tell me you are joking... or at least tell me what you're smoking! 75% of escorts are doing it because they are on drugs, the rest of them are doing it because they've been handed things all their lives because of their beauty and thought when they turned 18 the world was going to hand them things for free and, when it didn't, had to quickly find a way to support themselves.

I will also tell you, that off the record and "behind closed doors" many of these girls HATE men in general - they're often molested as kids etc - and many of them hate the situation they're in and blame/resent men for it - I have SEEN and heard it. Most of them are very mean actually, you guys are judging them on the "face" they show you, which is FAR from their real selves, of course. It's in their best interested and in fact, their JOBS, to put on this act for clients. Do you really think escorts are nice, sweet innocent girls who would see you if they weren't being PAID cold hard cash? Let's keep in check with reality here people...

Again, all the escorts are competing for our business - end of discussion. To me, it's really sad that they have somehow been successful at convincing a very small population of johns (i.e., some members of this forum) that they deserve some kind of respect and that it's a "priviledge" to see them.

Just not sure what to say about that, except "Lol". They say there's one born every minute.

Tiger - I agree with you my friend! You seem like a smart man among a crowd of fools - no offense to this board meant by that comment, I'm just really shocked to hear some of the things I'm hearing on this forum. Just telling it like it is...

-Arthur Bishop Originally Posted by mrbishop

He IS correct in many of his comments however, but thats because he ONLY sees the $100/hr advertisers FROM BP/CL. He's only familiar with those types of ladies because he's too cheap and too stubborn to see a lady of quality, you know, the ones that he could actually respect and develop a friendship with. WALDT, I suppose.

One other comment; If you really think that

LOL! That would NEVER happen, trust me.

you are a bigger fool than I thought. I still recommend the streets of Arlington to you. If you are SO shocked to hear the things you do on this board, I suggest you find a new place to post your musings. I'm not seeing much sympathy for you here.

I'm done with this idiot. Good luck Arthur!

He's only familiar with those types of ladies because he's too cheap and too stubborn to see a lady of quality, Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

"Quality"? You mean one that has been BORED out by every member of eccie? NO THANKS. I like my escorts young and fresh. You talk of "respect" - how can someone have respect for a girl that sells her P to any guy with money? And before you ask how someone could have respect for a guy that pays it, BIG difference - that's not what we do for a living.

Again, these girls would be working at McD's if they weren't given at birth a gift they were so lucky to be born with. I'm sure most guys on here are important professional workers who contribute to society, are good fathers and family guy's... whereas most of these girls would cut your balls off given the chance. I just use them for what they're good for... don't hate the playa, hate the game! Lol

you know, the ones that he could actually respect and develop a friendship with. WALDT, I suppose. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

ROFLMAO!!! Ok dude, let's see, next time you get a FLAT TIRE or need to borrow a few bucks to make the rent, please, LET US KNOW how successful you are in getting help from your escort "friends." - LMAO!! PLEASE! Dude you live in a land of fairy tales and leprechans - you are EXACTLY the kind of "John" these escorts LOVE... i.e., EEEEASY to feed a bunch of bullshit too and hand over his money with glee.

One other comment; If you really think that you are a bigger fool than I thought. I still recommend the streets of Arlington to you. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

I would NEVER pick up a girl off the streets - that's gross. You make a lot of ASSumptions about someone across the internet... you should be a psychologist bro! Lol.

Mr Bishop, some of the escorts here may be as you describe, but truly there are many who are truly nice people who are not on drugs, were not molested, and don't hate men. . Originally Posted by mar6

It's 100% an act.

Mr.B,

This is a business, plain and simple. In fact, it's quite literally the oldest business. We are, and always have been, the demand and they are and always will be, the supply. I treat these girls with the same respect and dignity that I do my own clients. Frankly, I could not do what they do and it is obvious that you couldn't either. It's also a very youth oriented business; some providers burn out and some should not be in the hobby to begin with. It's apparent that you have had some unfortunate associations, but we demand a lot from these ladies; let's not make their job any harder by belittling what they do. A softer approach might alter your perspective. Give it a chance.

we demand a lot from these ladies; let's not make their job any harder by belittling what they do. A softer approach might alter your perspective. Give it a chance. Originally Posted by esteve

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OMG! Are you SSSSERIOUS??????????????????

Man.

I cannot BELIEVE some of the stuff I'm reading here! WWWWOW.

Not sure what to say about that bro... excpet to WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!! These girls are ESCORTS! They sell piece of themselves for MONEY. In what society on earth do you know of that they are worthy of respect? Even in countries like Amsterdam, Nnnnot.

WOW!

Not sure what to say about that bro... excpet to WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!! These girls are ESCORTS! They sell piece of themselves for MONEY. In what society on earth do you know of that they are worthy of respect? Even in countries like Amsterdam, Nnnnot.

WOW! Originally Posted by mrbishop

1. How about Geisha? In one of the oldest societies in the world.

2. You have obviously never been to Amsterdam.

3. "Houses of Ill repute" have been famous and imfamous for 1000's of years. Some have even been a huge, respected influence on politics, in Rome and other cities of older times.

4. Not everyone deserves respect, no matter what their occupation, (I'm in sales, I know what it's like to be judged by my job to a degree) but that's something people should really find out first before making snap judgments about whole groups of people.

Lastly, if all you want to do here is hate, then do it somewhere else. You can claim "hate the game" all you want, but you're the one being a duchebag, and that's a personal choice.

These girls are ESCORTS! They sell piece of themselves for MONEY. In what society on earth do you know of that they are worthy of respect? Even in countries like Amsterdam, Nnnnot. Originally Posted by mrbishop

You must be getting a kick out of this. More power to you, whatever floats your boat.

Do you hobby? Becuase I've only done it once and will never again, does that make me a better man then you? I've only been to one strip club in my life, do I get brownie points for seeing less women "selling pieces" of themselves? Hell, you don't have to respect these ladies, but your words read like your soul is better then theirs. It's your god-given right to act the way you act, but if you think you have any idea of why these ladies do what they do.. then what's the matter with some mercy and compassion?

If you live your life by the way your displaying yourself, then I truly feel sorry for your seed when this world hits them. What if your son couldn't feed his kids like he wants to, but worked his ass off at an minimal job to make ends meet. And what if my future seed drove a brand new BMW and lived lavishly. Is your own child not worthy of some compassion from my son? Is my son more of a man than yours? His life may not be what he what it to be, but he's doing what's best to live respectfully. I doubt you know the real story behind these ladies, but what if some of these women do struggle. Why not open your heart to a little understanding then .. Just wondering? Some of these ladies might have their lives more "together" than yours. You never know.

I know all that venom you typed comes from the anonymity of the internet, if you ever saw one of these ladies here you wouldn't have the heart to tell them how you felt. If how you feel is really what you think, then more power to you. I really mean that. God Bless.
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Sidenote:

I use to feel somewhat how Mr. Bishop felt, but I've remebered my struggles in life. I'm sorry if I've come off like this fellow at times everybody. I'll be the first to admit I'm not the best at divulging what's on my mind. But I've typed somethings that could have been taken as "looking down" at others here. And for that I'm sorry.

Mr Bishops comments and attitude is very disturbing.....Put the beligerance, stubborness,arrogance, belittling, and ignorance aside.......and what is obvious is the man has major issues.......he is a mysogynistic woman hater who should be monitored by the authorities. How many women has he beaten to "teach them a lesson"? or "for their own good"? If he hasnt, he will soon. Its one thing to be completely ignorant and have a strong opinion, but this man is dangerous. I say this with no animosity or anger, just a bit of pity and fear for the safety of women. He needs help. If ever there should be someone put in the Alert Forum its him.