Medical Bills Are Killing Us

you think the average person is going to have input? oh, that wasnt mokery

All I am saying is that the status quo is not acceptable. The current healthcare reform is not perfect. Some think it is a start that could be improved upon. If you hate it for some valid reasons (and not just because you hate Obama), you need to come up with constructive alternatives and convince others about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbx1JW2mj9o Originally Posted by DomCapers

Pretty impressive that they can fill 4 minutes on one comment that the President didn't follow through on.

The idea that politicians don't, or aren't able to, do everything they say they'd like to do seems to be a new concept with some people. Not surprising, since these same people seem to have been locked away in a cave somewhere for the 9 months the bill was debated.

All I am saying is that the status quo is not acceptable. The current healthcare reform is not perfect. Some think it is a start that could be improved upon. If you hate it for some valid reasons (and not just because you hate Obama), you need to come up with constructive alternatives and convince others about them. Originally Posted by jackfengshui

im confused, where did I say I hated anything about the content of this thread? or President Obama?

Unfortunately the Canadian system is far from perfect, their costs are much lower and it is decent for general services, but can become a horror story when seeking out specialized treatment. Waiting times of 6 months are not unheard of.

True!
The joys of deregulation, which was supposed to save us money! What a farce! Never happened! Everything that has been deregulated has shot up in price and now they are allowed to pick our pockets at will, for any reason they can dream up! Gas prices at the pump are another prime example!
Our parents KNEW BETTER! They realized these industries and businesses are nothing but a bunch of crooks and HAD TO BE tightly regulated, or they will rob you blind. Our parents were smart....those who followed, not to bright, and too easily swayed by slippery tongued businessmen BS, who would sell there mothers for a fast buck! Originally Posted by Celso

Maybe you and I are of different age, but aren't our parents the crooks who deregulated all this shit, leveraging and stealing, burdening the future with enormous debt?

Maybe you and I are of different age, but aren't our parents the crooks who deregulated all this shit, leveraging and stealing, burdening the future with enormous debt? Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

no, it was some in gov buying votes from the week of mind

Hopefully Obamacare can bend the cost curve. A Canadian style system would be much better. The profit margins on some of those items are Outrageous. Taxpayers heavily subsidize health care, our interest should be first and foremost, but as long as we allow lobbyists to run washington, don't look for the situation to get better soon. Originally Posted by drluv1

And the lobbyists aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sadly the lobbyists have more influence with the politicians than do the voters who actually put them in office.

Unfortunately the Canadian system is far from perfect, their costs are much lower and it is decent for general services, but can become a horror story when seeking out specialized treatment. Waiting times of 6 months are not unheard of. Originally Posted by roscoe14850

There's no shortage of Canadians coming to Buffalo for medical services.

Originally Posted by drluv1
Hopefully Obamacare can bend the cost curve. A Canadian style system would be much better. The profit margins on some of those items are Outrageous. Taxpayers heavily subsidize health care, our interest should be first and foremost, but as long as we allow lobbyists to run washington, don't look for the situation to get better soon.

And the lobbyists aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sadly the lobbyists have more influence with the politicians than do the voters who actually put them in office. Originally Posted by cowboy8055

Oblamacare is the current problem.

but I agree with cowboy

Maybe you and I are of different age, but aren't our parents the crooks who deregulated all this shit, leveraging and stealing, burdening the future with enormous debt? Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

Was speaking of the parents and grandparents who went through the Great Depression. They saw firsthand what happened when pretty much all businesses were allowed to to run unregulated doing whatever they pleased because powerful business interests claimed the free market would self-correct itself. Well it did correct itself, by causing that Great Depression! Today we have another crop of pols owned by powerful business interests claiming the solution is to drop all regulations again! Some folks just never learn anything from past history.

Drop all regulations, hell no, most, hell yes.

Oblamacare is the current problem. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Unmitigated Greed and unregulated health-care corporate caprice IS the current problem!

They blame Oblamacare fearing it will end their gravy train and reign in medical costs as IS DONE in most of the other advanced countries in the world.

Drop all regulations, hell no, most, hell yes. Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

That is working real good right now at the gas pumps, eh???

Greed I agree. unregulated I do not. see cowboy posts 23 and 24