Lil Devyn- Not sure what all the fuss is about

...Call it the Search for the Rare Bargain Gem, at least thats the spin I put on it...Reality is that SW and those fresh off the SW scene are the "Underbelly" of this thing we call a Hobby...This episode has made me question my Hobbying Habit to its Core...And I have not written a Full Review of my experience for two reasons:

1 I cant bring myself to benefit from the sorry episode
and
2 I have expressed 90 percent of the experience here

Bottom line is this...when ya go shopping at KMart...you better not be looking for something to wear to The Mansion at Turtle Creek....

I wish Devyn the Best...But Im afraid its Probably Behind her, even as young as she is....


Lanny

Is this sexyass Devyn that you speak of in this thread...I notice Lil Devyn is used in title

No, differant girl.

Nookiebandit, it might have been PCN on the blue tag. What does this mean?

What a scary situation. Sorry you and some of the other guys went thru this.

Well, just to add my experience.

I had called her the other night, setup a meet in an hour or so. I head her way, called in to get the cross streets. Took the exit off of 30 and called to get the directions to her location...she never answered.

So I decide to park, and wait 5 mins to call back. called her and got nothing, decided to wait a little longer...get bored and login to ECCIE to see what's new. read this post...threw it in drive and got outta there.

a few hours later she calls and tells me she was sorry..blah blah. Man she sounded so cute and together on the phone though. Told her it was cool and not to worry about it.

another boat missed, but I'm very thankful to you guys from saving me the frustration. this was late at night too so might not have been as safe as daytime, who knows though.

this I know though...always read ECCIE and I really miss Sara.

thanks again

Nookiebandit, it might have been PCN on the blue tag. What does this mean? Originally Posted by mar6

penicillin - most likely that she's allergic to it or has some sort of negative reaction to it after disclosing it, or a medical professional discovering it.


this is just my theory based on my limited experience in the medical industry. one of the Docs on the board can likely provide more detailed input then i can.

one of the Docs on the board can likely provide more detailed input then i can. Originally Posted by nookiebandit

wait... wait... Docs on the board? you know, I have this issue.... I can show the docs, I am sure is nothing... but...

I was thinking the large black man was... but maybe he is her pimp. Perhaps he is both. In any case, letting him in DURING a session to get the $ seems to be her new M.O., and even though he seems okay, I'll not risk that again. Originally Posted by mar6

When I first saw this thread, I questioned your agenda/motive when you posted it as a thread rather than in review format. The hobby and this “hooker/John” lifestyle that we choose to lead are full of hypocrisy and irony. It is both hypocritical and ironic for you to state – “I’ll not risk that again” when you are the same person that posted on ASPD about searching out and trolling for pimps to help you find “YOUNG” UTR girls in Grand Prairie - http://www.eraps.net/showthread.php/...get-ripped-off . I also recall you sending me a couple of PM’s requesting info to aid in your search. It’s obvious to me that there are certain risks that are “acceptable” to you, but others that are not.

Based on some of the posts that you have made over the yearz regarding the street scene, certain things should not be surprising or shocking to you. Devyn was working out of the Hampton/Singleton area – anyone who has cruised that area or is familiar with it should know what type of lifestyle and demons surely accompany the providerz working this area.

She seems really sweet but I think that outside infuences are taking a toll. I hope that someone who can reach her will and help. Logan, can you? Originally Posted by MRMR

Logan this is your find and you may want to intervene? Originally Posted by civic

Is sad. Such a pretty girl, such a long dark path. Hope she can find the light befor the grave. Originally Posted by Truckertom

Wonder where all the other posters who praised her are not on this thread defending her. I see praises on other threads and then this thread; is there any middle ground? Who should I believe; this thread or the ones praising Devyn's skills? Originally Posted by pilot4u

Yes, Lil Devyn was one of my finds, but there is nothing that I can do. I try not to get personally involved with any provider, but I’ve tried to help rescue girlz from the streetz in the past - but failed. Lil Devyn can only be rescued by a truly “Good Samaritan”, family or someone that she trusts that will take her far from her current circle of friends. Even then, she may try to go back to the lifestyle that she has known for the past couple of yearz.

It seems obvious that certain influences, possible management and demons have probably become powerful forces in her life now. Perhaps Devyn has found herself in a situation that she cannot escape from or will herself out of. Sometimes, there are invisible chains and shackles that keep young girls chained to the streets, tormenting them and keeping them on the Road to Hell to self destruction and despair. Anyone that has met or talked to Devyn can quickly and easily recognize that she came from a good family, is smart, cute and has a good personality – but even that may not be enough for her to escape the living hell that she seems to have possibly found herself in…

……..when Devyn just disappeared (phone went out of service) last year after two short months, I wondered what had happened to her…wondered if she was in jail, if something bad happened to her, or if she “escaped” the road she was travelling and found “freedom”…found hope…found a new life….”freedom”. When I recently saw Devyn again and asked her why she just disappeared, she explained that she decided to change her number and implied she was tired of the calls…perhaps that was her way of saying that she couldn’t take it anymore….take the “pressure”….”control” and other “influences”…perhaps she was happier just working Singleton where there wasn’t any pressure to be “Lil Devyn”, but where she could just be Devyn…a girl in dirty jeans and t-shirt traveling down a road with no exits…..perhaps she would have the strength to find her way home….escape…find her dream…find freedom…

…perhaps Devyn is now at the point where she was last year….where she has decided she has had enough and will soon disappear….or perhaps she will just self-destruct. I do believe that Devyn is possibly in a situation that none of us can possible imagine what it feels like to be in….no control over her situation…a living hell…

….Devyn may be in a very bad situation and may be in the process of self-destructing, but it’s a shame and distasteful to speculate what may have been noted her medical bracelets. Last time I checked this forum had rules - #16 - Posting about/Speculating about another person's medical condition is strictly forbidden. Lil Devyn may have some problems, but she doesn’t deserve to be treated that way.

...I never will enjoy posting something that will surely hurt a girls business..Unless they are blantantly BnS or there is real threat to Hobbyist Safety...Just ALWAYS want to give as HONEST of an account as I can of my experience...

Truly am Hoping for the Best for Devyn....Seems like a sweet gal that has, or is in the process of being chewed up by the Streets....

Lanny

Logan,

First of all, let me say that I'm not sure whether to be honored or insulted by the fact that you took the time to dig up old posts by me. I'm speechless . . . well not completely . . .

You have questioned my motives (and consequently my character), so I feel obligated to answer you. I'll try the quote thing, although I have never quite gotten the hang of it.

When I first saw this thread, I questioned your agenda/motive when you posted it as a thread rather than in review format.

Not sure why. Street girls reviewed in the "Other" forum hardly ever get reviewed with the regular review form. Surely you know this as most of your reviews are done exactly as mine, but I have never questioned your motives when you have related negative experiences- nor have I had a reason to. If you'd rather me put it in review format I'll be happy to, but what is your point really?

The hobby and this “hooker/John” lifestyle that we choose to lead are full of hypocrisy and irony. It is both hypocritical and ironic for you to state – “I’ll not risk that again” when you are the same person that posted on ASPD about searching out and trolling for pimps to help you find “YOUNG” UTR girls in Grand Prairie - http://www.eraps.net/showthread.php/...get-ripped-off .

First of all, I'm not sure why you put the word "young" in quotes and all caps. I did not in my post on ASPD. What I DID say in my post is that I was looking for an "18y/o UTR girl." By putting "YOUNG" in all caps and in quotes, you seem to imply that I look for underage girls. This is a distortion of my post and can not be further from the truth. This is a line I have never crossed or sought to cross and I do not appreciate your implication. (I did actually have an offer once for a 15 y/o but I have no desire to play with this kind of fire).

Re: the using of pimps- You are the one that taught me to use the pimps to find the girls. This has been successful for me a few times, but honestly I quit doing it when I realized that the guys claiming to be the girls' pimp rarely ever is, and always wants my money for giving information which may or may not pan out (which is exactly what happened in the post you linked). Nevertheless, the difference here is that I was meeting the pimp before I meet the girl (through the safety of my car window). Then, once I was convinced that he was not going to harm me and just wanted my business, I would allow him to lead me to a girl. Once with the girl (either in my car or in her room) I would not see him again.

With Devyn, the large black man (pimp or not I can not say) was allowed into the room by Devyn DURING our session- unexpected (at least by me) and unannounced. And I had NEVER seen him before and had no idea if he was a danger to me or not. Surely you can see the difference here. Hypocrisy? I think not. Two completely different scenarios. The former situation I voluntarily put myself in after some comfort level is achieved, and the latter is beyond my control and I have no idea if this man is here to rob me behind closed doors or not. Like I said- a risk I am not willing to take again. Even if it's a pimp I'm comfortable with- I don't want him in the room with me- too much can go wrong!

It’s obvious to me that there are certain risks that are “acceptable” to you, but others that are not.

Well, yeah. The first scenario above is acceptable and the second one is not. Not sure what your point is.

Based on some of the posts that you have made over the yearz regarding the street scene, certain things should not be surprising or shocking to you. Devyn was working out of the Hampton/Singleton area – anyone who has cruised that area or is familiar with it should know what type of lifestyle and demons surely accompany the providerz working this area.

Nothing shocks me about these girls. I know why they do what they do. My goal is to feed my addiction (yes I have my demons too, as do many of us), budget when I can, and stay as safe as possible. None of the prior reviews led me to believe that I'd be anything but in a safe environment with a sweet girl from the burbs, and such was not the case for me. I just told it like it was. My only "agenda/motive" was to tell my story as accurately as possible, and in so doing to paint a clear picture of my experience and allow others to make an informed decision as to whether or not to see her. I wish her no ill will. In fact, I feel sorry for her as you seem to as well. I hope she and everyone else battling her demons finds help. On the other hand, I will not color my experience and withhold information for the express purpose of not hurting her business. This board is about information. Read all my reviews. I tell the story as accurately as I can, as you do as well.

….Devyn may be in a very bad situation and may be in the process of self-destructing, but it’s a shame and distasteful to speculate what may have been noted her medical bracelets. Last time I checked this forum had rules - #16 - Posting about/Speculating about another person's medical condition is strictly forbidden. Lil Devyn may have some problems, but she doesn’t deserve to be treated that way.

Like I said. I have done nothing out of maliciousness. I feel sorry for Devyn. You are correct about one thing. She is experiencing something I can not imagine. I wish her no harm. If I have violated rules of the forum it was unintentional. I was not aware of this rule. The reason I wanted to know what was on the bracelet is because she was so secretive about it. She lied to me and said that she was at the hospital to visit her grandmother. When I saw and asked her about the medical bracelets she was evasive. My concern at that point was twofold. First, I was concerned that she was okay. She just came back from the hospital after all. Was she well enough to be working? Secondly, I was concerned for my safety. If she had something that I could catch by being in contact with her, I wanted to know. I still want to know as I did come into contact with her. I will however honor the rules here now that I know this rule and not speculate as to what her medical condition is/was. My apologies to Devyn and the mods for the violation.

Bottom line- Logan, why you would question my motives is beyond me. I will continue to fight my own demons as you will also. I will repeat, my only motive on this board is to feed my addiction and stay as safe as possible doing it until such a time comes that I can overcome my addiction. I do not know anyone on this board (provider or hobbyist) personally. I have no agenda against anyone and am insulted you would even suspect such. As long as I am on this board, I will continue to give honest reports of my experiences as I am sure you will also.

come on guys, you can give out more tips to make this poor little gal have a better life. It's not anyone's responsibility to help her, but once her situation make your feels uncomfortable and gulity, did you have thought what can you do to help her?
you guys saied she is gem, so you only took advantage from her?

In the Dallas med system - "NPC" stands for non paying customer. In short, treatment is kept to the bare minimum.

Davinci,
That is why I was not sure what to do (review/no review). It is not that black or white.
As Lanny stated it makes you reconsider the whole Hobby.
I am.
But I do think that this should be shared for all to make an informed decision (whether you care or not). What may be stellar today may not be next week. Based on the happenings I sure would want to know.
I wish her the best. But keep one thing in mind, only she can make the decision to exit away from certain playgrounds/playmate's and playthings.
Again, I hope for the best.

It is very difficult to help this kind of girls. Any help "we" give her would keep her in the hobby, which is not necessarily the best. She is near the bottom, but not there yet. Until she hits it, she will not change.
Any help will be a waste.