Why charge more for outcalls than incalls?

Time is a huge part of it and for most gas money is not an issue I just like to have mine replaced it is used to visit them !

I prefer outcalls like I said I have a real job and only get to visit with clients a couple times a month so it just works better for me.

Yeah but for the ones that have to book a hotel...they still have to travel. Then there is a bigger chance to be stood up because there are two people going to one location.

Comfort level i guess could be an argument for a house outcall but if it's a nice hotel i don't think that is a good argument.

It's a flat fee and sometimes the girls are in the same hotel or area so gas and time are negligible.

Thank you for that lovely contribution to the thread. On point, useful, cogent, and relevant . . . like most of your posts. We're so lucky to have you as a member to share your wisdom.

/golfclap Originally Posted by the_chewtoy

you are too nice. in my opinion he's just an idiot with a frustration.

what's up luke? hope we can be buds someday. give me a shout dude.

I have always felt that outcalls are more risky, time consuming, fighting traffic, ect... I do like to detour outcalls... thinking of this I personally feel that most alerts happen when there is an outcall involved on the ladies part and a guy is at an incall when an incident occurs... I wish there was a way to go through the alerts and log the situations in order to prove or disprove that outcalls for the ladies are more of risk... ( Im a typical nerd lol)

Additional $$ per hour for travelling just doesn't make sense. A single flat charge for outcalls . . . yes--that a defensible position. chewtoy, It doesn't have to make sense to you. You don't have to pay a ladies rate no matter how twisted her math seems to you. It makes sense to her and that is all that matters. (However, I think most ladies charge a flat outcall fee no matter the time spent.)
Maybe the lady unintentionally twisted her math. Inquire....If it is on purpose, then choose a provider whose math is equally yoked with your math. There are 772 providers in Dallas.
Charging an outcall fee is for extra time spent by the escort. Afterall, you are paying for a ladies time.....It can also be to encourage you to come to her incall where she may feel more comfortable.

I still think safety concerns are less of an issue with outcalls--I hope nothing bad ever happens to a lady, but if it were, outcalls are a paper trail. You have an address that someone either rented or owns for the most part (not many people rent for just cash anymore). If the police need to be involved, the jerk who hurts you can generally be found. I'd think incalls would be riskier than outcalls for the most part. You are simply being rational and don't understand the ugly and scary side of being an escort. We don't typically share these stories with gents. It takes away from the gfe & IOP for which you pay us.

. Originally Posted by the_chewtoy

I have always felt that outcalls are more risky, time consuming, fighting traffic, ect... I do like to detour outcalls... thinking of this I personally feel that most alerts happen when there is an outcall involved on the ladies part and a guy is at an incall when an incident occurs... I wish there was a way to go through the alerts and log the situations in order to prove or disprove that outcalls for the ladies are more of risk... ( Im a typical nerd lol) Originally Posted by Lolabrea01

I agree with Lola. Outcalls are risky! For example, Don't park in a gents garage or in a gated area where you can't escape. It's best not to partake in a drink. If a lady chooses to drink, it's wise that the gent is drinking from the same bottle. You watch him open new bottle and pour both of you a drink. He sips first..... This may seem foreign to a gent who has no intention to harm a woman. It's probably best for gents to stay naive to the safety aspect of being an escort.

Not to hijack the thread but I'm actually glad that the ladies here in DFW actually post the difference in price between incall and outcall. I was in NYC a few weeks ago and before going I was planning on taking part in the hobby scene out there. First, it was pricy but it's New York so what else is new. The main thing is most of the ladies out there, if not all, do not post a price difference between incall and outcall, leaving it up to the hobbyist to inquire about pricing. I saw 3 ladies (all outcalls), 2 of them I inquired about the price difference ahead of time but for some odd reason I didn't do so on the third lady. So when she arrived she pointed about I was $50 shy. Wasn't an issue as it was my last night in the city and I had enough cash flow left over. So my point, thank you fair ladies of DFW for actually posting your price differences ahead of time.

Wondering why is futile. It is a ladies business and not ours. Its up to us as gents if we want to follow her rules or not. Emily Ezzell do not kill my fantasy

Agree with Samantha. (Have had the pleasure of two outcall dates with her.) Bottom line:we pay extra for convenience. And it is more convenient for a lady to visit me than the other way around. The convience factor is built into all facets of the economy.

Wondering why is futile. It is a ladies business and not ours. Its up to us as gents if we want to follow her rules or not. Emily Ezzell do not kill my fantasy Originally Posted by Thatdude

TD, its just like the fucktards that try to figure out what a lady makes in a year and not understanding that hobby economics defy normal math and economic theory.

EmilyEzzell you are my hero!

dallasfan, according to your profile, you joined on Mar 22, 2013.
so i will cut you some slack, just a little.

because this has been discussed again, again, and again.
and prolly will be discussed some more.
[i wont say debated because a debate has to have two or more side arguing a point - something i dont see here]

bottom line:
THE WOMEN TCB how they want, charge what they want, and do what they want. period, end of sentence.
The Men select and setup how they want, pay what they want, and do what they want. period, end of sentence.
period, end of discussion.


but, for sake of discussion, you might want to read on.
but it'll wind up at the same place.

... Just seems like a messed up cost structure. Originally Posted by dallasfan

messed up to whom???

Yeah, but more than a few of the girls price themselves out of market. I'm one of those numbers people where bad math just annoys me. ...
I dunno. I just hate bad math. For those providers still reading . . . please divide your price by the number of minutes included. The price per minute number should either be the same (no discount for multiple hours), or lower (discounts to encourage multiple hours) as the time increases. If not, you're doing something wrong. Originally Posted by the_chewtoy

price themselves out of WHICH market?? yours or the entire dallas or fw or dfw market??
i can understand if you hate bad math.
but just cos you dont understand a provider's fee structure does NOT make it bad math.
and just cos you put an equation to some fee structure and it doesnt make sense to you, that does NOT make it wrong.

how come McDonalds et. al. charge $1 for a burger when they all know their costs are more than that??
is that bad math? is that wrong??
[folks, i am NOT attempting to liken any provider's fees to MickeyDs prices!!]

If the intent is to discourage outcalls, I understand completely. Clearly, if things are thought out properly, you price your services to your preferences (though other than the lovely BSB, Kaci, and Samantha, there are a lot of girls who I strongly suspect haven't given it a second thought).

On the other hand (and please pardon me if I pick on you a little, Samantha), your profile shows that your willing to visit a gentleman for an hour at their residence for an additional $50/hour. Is it really more time to drive there, more traffic hassle if you stay 4 hours rather than 1 hour? There is no additional commitment (other than the comfort zone issue) for a multi-hour stay than there is for a single hour. It seems, if you're willing to make a visit for an additional $50, that ought to be a flat fee, rather than an hourly charge.

Still, what you ladies choose to charge is your business. Frankly, I think we're lucky to see you ladies any way you look at it. It's probably just the math major in me rearing its ugly head.

I know it's completely off topic, but I also have to add that I love you in that grey dress in your profile, Samantha! You're lovely. Originally Posted by the_chewtoy

a) QUIT PICKING ON SAMANTHA OR ANY OTHER WOMAN FOR HOW THEY RUN THEIR BUSINESS!!
b) since you now agree that it's their choice on how to run their business, just let it be!!
once you have been a provider for sometime, you can discuss w/ them about their biz model.

quit your fucking whining chewtoy. bet you're an an accountant or something. Originally Posted by Juan Pablo de Marco

Thank you for that lovely contribution to the thread. On point, useful, cogent, and relevant . . . like most of your posts. We're so lucky to have you as a member to share your wisdom. Originally Posted by the_chewtoy

while you might not like what he posted, JPdM has some truth in there.
you posts read like a kind of whining to me.
at least a kind of complaining. or a bitching or a "why do i have to pay their fees??"

Wondering why is futile. It is a ladies business and not ours. Its up to us as gents if we want to follow her rules or not. Originally Posted by Thatdude

that's what i've always said:
attempting to figure out one provider's biz model and fee structure, much less two, much less generalize to a larger group is just a bunch of wasted time
imho, that time could be better spent finding a provider to spend some intimate delites with!!!

bottom line:
THE WOMEN charge what they [or their "manager"] want and do what they want. period, end of sentence.
The Men pay what they want and do what they want. period, end of sentence.
period, end of statements of fact.

[see? i told you it would end up at the same place ]

Thank you for the compliment. I am blushing!
And you are correct, it is to discourage outcall cause it is not as convenient for me. I am usually busy with sports commitment outside of my Monday - Friday 10am - 4pm incall availability. Sometimes, I do not mind going to an outcall in the evening....but I wouldn't want to make a habit out of it. I got other things I want to do/pursue outside of working hours, ya know. :-) I am not available 24/7 Originally Posted by samantha thom

Samantha you are so elegant

Agree with Samantha. (Have had the pleasure of two outcall dates with her.) Bottom line:we pay extra for convenience. And it is more convenient for a lady to visit me than the other way around. The convience factor is built into all facets of the economy. Originally Posted by outoftheblue

I wish more guys would think like you.

The up charge on the outcall is due to the additional risk. The girls are traveling to an unfamiliar location. Especially if it is the guy's house.
Incall, you have all of your creature comforts, no drive time involved and no stress regarding security, especially if you have a secure location.

I don't charge extra for outcalls due to risk or security reasons, although those are also valid points..

I charge extra for outcalls because they are a pain in the arse. I like the comfort of my incall. I have all the amenities you and I need, and I don't have to pack ten outfits and heels, spend $ on gas, getting lost (I always do..even with the Garmin) etc.

Laziness on my part. I am more comfortable in my own place and I am always on time. I'm happy to go out of my way for you, as long as I am being treated fairly. Hence, the price hike