New trend GFE / PSE billing

It appears I have hit a nerve with many hobbyist. Apparently many of us view this trend as merely an upsell tactic. I too avoid the providers with differing rates for gfe/pse. Problem is I see more and more advertising the differing rates. It is a " made up " distinction to extract more cash.

It appears I have hit a nerve with many hobbyist. Apparently many of us view this trend as merely an upsell tactic. I too avoid the providers with differing rates for gfe/pse. Problem is I see more and more advertising the differing rates. It is a " made up " distinction to extract more cash. Originally Posted by diddleman

Yes sir, that's how I see it.

In a session I will NEVER want LFK, DFK, DATY, DATO, or greek. Its just not my thing with providers. I don't want to lay around and cuddle or swap whispering sweet nothings in eachothers ears. I am only there for CFS, the best BBBJ she has to offer, and NQNS or at least CIM finish. One pop and I'm gone. You will be seeing my dust as soon as I'm done.

So should I be able to get the price lowered because I don't want those other activities?

Why hell no. And I would never expect it.
And I won't pay extra for an activity just because a lady says I should.

I don't see any differance in a lady bumping up the price and a guy trying to get it lowered. I will go somewhere else.

It appears I have hit a nerve with many hobbyist. Apparently many of us view this trend as merely an upsell tactic. I too avoid the providers with differing rates for gfe/pse. Problem is I see more and more advertising the differing rates. It is a " made up " distinction to extract more cash. Originally Posted by diddleman

Avoid all you like. There will always be the shit-for-brains fuck-tard hobbyists who cater to the hook-tards that see maximum cash in a session worth the lost long-term income. I guess they deserve each other.

My exposed nerve is my checking account. One thing I've learned in my years here and on aspd is, "Don't piss off a provider, especially more than one at a time" In my considerably long life. I've been very fortunate regarding civilian ladies in my younger years and more to the providers here in the autumn of this trip through life. There are some very naughty ladies on this board and maybe some others I'm not really sure about that. But I can make one statement I have never had a PSE experience that came close to several I had with civilian ladies in years past. That couldn't be in anyway be connected to having been 20 something then and 50 something now, could it?

Yes sir, that's how I see it.

In a session I will NEVER want LFK, DFK, DATY, DATO, or greek. Its just not my thing with providers. I don't want to lay around and cuddle or swap whispering sweet nothings in eachothers ears. I am only there for CFS, the best BBBJ she has to offer, and NQNS or at least CIM finish. One pop and I'm gone. You will be seeing my dust as soon as I'm done.

So should I be able to get the price lowered because I don't want those other activities?

Why hell no. And I would never expect it.
And I won't pay extra for an activity just because a lady says I should.

I don't see any differance in a lady bumping up the price and a guy trying to get it lowered. I will go somewhere else. Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat

Sir, that is neither GFE or PSE...

That's called toot it and boot it!

Why is their a need to charge more for anything ?

Do we or do we not just get paid for our time and travel ?

I'v been here for quite a while and am on my way out but I know one thing when I ran my rates by what services I provided my phone did not ring as much, however when I run my rates based on TIME spent I get a much better reaction from the clients that choose to contact me.

My rates have pretty much always been all inclusive fun with my full menu. I do see how it can detour a gentlemen from seeing a lady if she up sales, what if you think you want one thing you get their see the lady an what you want changes ? Should you really have to pay extra unless you want more TIME ?

Why is their a need to charge more for anything ?

Do we or do we not just get paid for our time and travel ?

I'v been here for quite a while and am on my way out but I know one thing when I ran my rates by what services I provided my phone did not ring as much, however when I run my rates based on TIME spent I get a much better reaction from the clients that choose to contact me.

My rates have pretty much always been all inclusive fun with my full menu. I do see how it can detour a gentlemen from seeing a lady if she up sales, what if you think you want one thing you get their see the lady an what you want changes ? Should you really have to pay extra unless you want more TIME ? Originally Posted by Kaci Snow

Kaci, we need more providers with your attitude. It is, or should be, about time, not activities. I too pass on tiered pricing.

I am with Kaci, if its on your menu its inclusive......if its not on there, well that is another thing and between provider and client....if I do something not on my menu so far its more about do I feel safe not charging more....I think there are a lot of providers out there that agree.....anyway always a good idea to ask upfront if not sure.....

oops double posted my last

I upcharge the ladies all the time. When you have 1.3" of dangling death one has to be paid for services.

Looked in the showcase from a recent ad and saw this:

200 (limited gfe) 25o (full gfe)hr

What does limited gfe mean? a cbj? Greek? So immediately if I contacted this provider for a session I am going to have to discuss her rates and services.

Kaci's right IMHO. Plus, differing rates obliterate IOP even before the hobbyist walks in the door. But it's up to the provider to offer and the hobbyist to accept. But Kaci just jumped a lot higher on my list.

I think ladies who decide to charge a different price for PSE and GFE should mention what the difference in menu will be. Especially with everyones difference of what PSE consists of.

I think ladies who decide to charge a different price for PSE and GFE should mention what the difference in menu will be. Especially with everyones difference of what PSE consists of. Originally Posted by Thatdude

Yeah, but being all-inclusive would solve that problem. Now, when requests are made, no one has to say, 'you didn't pay for that'

I remember once asking a gent to do something dirty to me, he stopped and said, 'but I didn't bring extra.' COMPLETE boner buster.