Discussing an orgasm goal.

I LOVE IT when a guy fills out his p411 profile in detail and includes something about his expectations or what his ideal session consists of. If the guy is not on p411 then maybe a brief introduction and description could be included in the initial appointment request email/pm.

Personally I have found it awkward to ask especially if it is a first visit. I still get a little nervous my first time meeting someone for that very reason. I dont know what they like, and I know some guys might be uncomfortable to discuss details during the actual session as well.

I know I would like to know beforehand if the guy I am with expects 2 or more pops in an hour so I can bring you to an exploding orgasm in the first part of the session to allow more recovery time for the second. In MY ideal session this would be DATY time!!

So fill out your p411 completely guys (that is what it is there for) and personally, I do not find wrong with an email introduction. It would in fact make me more at ease and knowledgeable as to what to expect.

I LOVE IT when a guy fills out his p411 profile in detail and includes something about his expectations or what his ideal session consists of. If the guy is not on p411 then maybe a brief introduction and description could be included in the initial appointment request email/pm.

Personally I have found it awkward to ask especially if it is a first visit. I still get a little nervous my first time meeting someone for that very reason. I dont know what they like, and I know some guys might be uncomfortable to discuss details during the actual session as well.

I know I would like to know beforehand if the guy I am with expects 2 or more pops in an hour so I can bring you to an exploding orgasm in the first part of the session to allow more recovery time for the second. In MY ideal session this would be DATY time!!

So fill out your p411 completely guys (that is what it is there for) and personally, I do not find wrong with an email introduction. It would in fact make me more at ease and knowledgeable as to what to expect. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

I agree, especially with the first visit thing!

I don't think it's bad to ever have everything out in the open about expectations, so no one is disappointed. Sure, the whole exploring a new partner thing is awesome and fun, but you'll get to do plenty of that anyways.

Of course, this is with the implication that said discussion is tactfully done and not mechanical / clinical in any way.

When the session is getting started I like to ask clients their average number of orgasms for a particular time duration. I like to know what is expected so I know how to pace myself and ensure the session is satisfying as the client desired and expected.

Raquel de milo Originally Posted by Raquel de Milo

I've fallen about 1/2 in love with you! Great approach that gives some general direction with understanding that sometimes, "The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray." Being open to communication both before AND during an encounter is wonderful.

Raquel,
That's a very service-oriented approach & good on you for thinking of that. Many of us are in a service-type industry and understand that being in line with your customers expectations or at least being up front with them leads to the greatest success. Personally, I'm good for two bells & prefer one early with a great BBBJ & then more foreplay, chat, daty, etc. leading to some great intercourse.....
BTW, I hope to see you soon.

Raquel your communication style is super. Any communication about desires and expectations in a session makes the session much much better. All providers should do as you do and clients should be encouraged to discuss their expectations even before the session

Raquel,

You might like to ask this in one of the private ladies areas of Eccie. Why? Because if I were to REALLY answer your question, I wouldn't answer it in a coed forum.

But I will share with you a few of my thoughts that I don't mind sharing in coed.

A lot of men will tell you that they wish to orgasm a couple of times, or three, during an appointment. I have found, a LOT, that men have this "want" to orgasm a few times but when it comes (pun intended) right down to it, they're just one-pop types.

Or they do orgasm quickly, then they have that invisible "turn off" button that happens with many guys and they're just done. (I'm always trying to FIND where that button IS so that I can turn the guys back on but they're often just not wired that way)

I have my own philosophy about what I do that works for me. Heck, a man can have as many orgasms as he wishes to if he's with me.

Some guys, though, will wait until the end of an appointment and then he'll say that he wishes to orgasm again. I try to make them happy. It's a tough topic.

I'm not sure that there is one right answer that will work for everyone. I just try to read the person ... and if you start another topic in the private areas, I'll even tell you my darker philosophy about this!

Have a great weekend!

I think it's pretty darn cool you even think about this stuff. It's both very considerate and a good service strategy.

I think it's pretty darn cool you even think about this stuff. It's both very considerate and a good service strategy. Originally Posted by SD2011

For those of us who strive to make sure that a client is so happy that he wishes to return at some point, it's very important to make the moments that we're together count and in a special way.

I don't wish to see a client pissed because he wanted to orgasm a few times and the time got away from us.

But I REALLY don't wish for a client to orgasm within five minutes of us meeting and then him, being a GUY (isn't a slam but some men are like this), often after orgasm he's just ready to go.

This doesn't make him feel that he's gotten his money's worth and it leaves me feeling that I didn't make him as happy as he could have been if I had teased him, stroked him more, played with him all over (wink), we had sex a few more times or whatever works.

I think that a lot of the ladies here, who consider this more of a profession rather than a quick way to make a buck, really think about ways to excite a man more or to make our time together more electrically charged.

Sometimes, we will fall short. But the ladies who have good reviews and who show an obvious intent to please their lovers of the moment, will ALWAYS think a LOT about a man's orgasm.

It's what it's all about, right?

Or they do orgasm quickly, then they have that invisible "turn off" button that happens with many guys and they're just done. (I'm always trying to FIND where that button IS so that I can turn the guys back on but they're often just not wired that way) Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

Except for the quick orgasm, because I don't do that, EW has described me to a T with the "turn off button". I wish I could help and explain how to turn it back on, but I haven't even figured it out myself. I have tried in the past and it used to bother me but I have since just excepted it as who I am. If I do happen to pop within 30-45 mins I don't even want to hang around at the incall and chit chat. I don't want to cuddle, I don't want a back rub. I am just ready to go when the deed is done.

Some guys might want to stick around and keep trying for round 2 to feel like they got their moneys worth or maybe just want to spend the rest of their time with a nice lady. I can completely understand a guy wanting to do that. But that's just not the kind of guy I am. EW is a wise lady and knows of what she speaks.

You really ought to opt for a nap. When I book a two hour appointment I usually get a 90 minute nap and I still leave 20 minutes early.

Miss Raquel,

I think your idea is great! Many times I have set up sessions with different providers and would love to have discussed a plan of attack before hand but did not know how to broach the subject. I believe that communication is key, especially in a service oriented business. I think, and this is just my thought on the matter, that with this level of communication a session can be set up with as much or as little passion as the client would want. This is a business after all, and the better customer service, the more repeat business. There are many providers that I would love to revisit if they thought the same way as you do right now (and I hope you continue to think this way). There are some ladies that think that we pay for 1 pop per hour, so pay up if you want MSOG. Yes there are a few good providers that advertise or have reviews that state they are MSOG, but to start off a session with a plan is mind blowing! I know that not all plans come together, but at least you have a strategy and all plans can be modified in the moment. I can only speak for myself because we all see providers for different reasons, but I enjoy popping as many times as I can, so I believe you are on to something big and I hope to set up a session with you soon!

I LOVE IT when a guy fills out his p411 profile in detail and includes something about his expectations or what his ideal session consists of. If the guy is not on p411 then maybe a brief introduction and description could be included in the initial appointment request email/pm.

Personally I have found it awkward to ask especially if it is a first visit. I still get a little nervous my first time meeting someone for that very reason. I dont know what they like, and I know some guys might be uncomfortable to discuss details during the actual session as well.

I know I would like to know beforehand if the guy I am with expects 2 or more pops in an hour so I can bring you to an exploding orgasm in the first part of the session to allow more recovery time for the second. In MY ideal session this would be DATY time!!

So fill out your p411 completely guys (that is what it is there for) and personally, I do not find wrong with an email introduction. It would in fact make me more at ease and knowledgeable as to what to expect. Originally Posted by Jules Jaguar

Great thinking Jules, I've often wondered how that would be taken by providers. Also, great thread Raquel!

When the session is getting started I like to ask clients their average number of orgasms for a particular time duration. I like to know what is expected so I know how to pace myself and ensure the session is satisfying as the client desired and expected. I started asking this when I noticed at the end of the session some clients would say they hoped for two shots but the first took too long from all the extra foreplay and the second shot always takes longer so we should have started on it much sooner. Also I noticed some would cum too fast from an amazing bbbj and never even got a chance to do fs or a second round because they are incapable of doing so.
So I think it's great to know what is expected and what is possible beforehand so I can offer the best experience.
Some reply with a confident answer and others laugh or give me a funny look and say "well I don't know let's just see what happens".

Any opinions on this?
Ladies do you ever ask your clients about this?
Guys do you think it is valuable information to share or is it just not the thing to talk about?
Does setting a goal and planning out a session take away from the illusion of passion. Does it seem to robotic and business like to plan out the session?

Raquel de milo Originally Posted by Raquel de Milo

I try to find out their preference without coming right out and asking. It's kind of a fine line - You want to be professional enough to give him exactly what he wants. But if what he wants is a true GFE, then being too blunt about it, it kind of breaks from the Girlfriend fantasy, or "illusion of passion". It would be great if the guys would let us know how important msog is to them. I'm a big fan of the slow, teasing, experience that builds up to a most powerful completion. But if msog is really important to my playmate, I don't mind at all getting right down to it, getting the first pop "out of the way" so we will have time to relax and enjoy a mutually satisfying finish. But, on the other hand, there is a large percentage of gentlemen who request msog, but after their first release- suddenly the blood can get to his brain and he's done, before getting to enjoy the full experience and before I got to have my fun. Having learned this from experience, these days, unless he specifically asks for a quick first, I take my time and try to give a mutually satisfying experience, and if we get more than one, that's great. But if not, I don't beat myself up about it. And I don't the average guy really minds that much if he only get's one release, if the over-all experience is enjoyable.
Boy. I'm rambling (and this train of thought is causing some dampness)
Gotta go.

Racquel...You know my answer.. For the purpose of the discussion.. When you are comfortable with a provider (post first visit)... It's nice to discuss as some days I feel like a one nut, some days 2...

Raquel, I think its a wonderful way to go about your buisness. I believe our responsibilites are to make sure our clients leave with a smile, so getting to know him is key. Also they should be specific with us prior to appointment to make sure we have a general understanding of what they want. Once in the grove of everything, I feel passion should take over as opposed to a routine. You feel out what is making their body tick, what makes their toes curl....and..boom. If they ask for an additional pop, then I go for it. Nothing is set in stone, unless they want it that way.