Authentic encounters that do not include a female orgasm ... a discussion? Or, if a woman doesn't orgasm during your time with her, is your time with her diminished?

Elisabeth...

There are some here who treat ladies with respect, and derive more enjoyment from mutual pleasure rather than being the sole focus of attention. It's not about " an orgasm contest" rather it's about pleasing and being pleased in the process.

This thread speaks volumes...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=805029

TP Originally Posted by Tony Patella

Tony, you nailed it.

There is pleasure in giving pleasure. It is a turn-on to hear a lady enjoying herself and it increases our pleasure.

I had a session a few weeks ago where the lady had several orgasm's (I could feel and hear them - no possibility of fake - her contractions almost pushed me out). I wasn't able to finish. She said she felt bad that she had a better time than I did. I told her that hearing her squeal and feeling the pleasure was just fine with me.

Maybe we get soft (double entendre intended) in our old age.

I just want her to act like I'm the best thing since sliced bread, no orgasm needed just genuinely excited to be in the same room quivering with excitement.

So when I walk out the front door I'm saying to myself wow I'm the best thing since sliced bread. Then I get home to the SO and I loose that feeling that's why I keep coming back.

It's a mental and upbringing thing with me. I always open doors for women. I stand up whenever my date or female friend gets up from the table. I help her on (and off) with her coat. I'm looking to satisfy her sexually before she takes her shot at satisfying me. I'm disappointed if the woman doesn't climax. It's not a devastating moment but I'd no sooner be satisfied with a session where I'm the only one that cums than I would walking thru a door first or keeping my ass glued to a chair whenever my date gets up. I suppose I'm a bit too old-fashioned. Sue me.