Non-GFE

When a provider makes a session feel like a transaction by telling me "i dont mean to rush you...but you asked for (this) much time". Or if a provider turns a session into a situation where i have to brushed out the door on the dot when the alotted time is up.

I know its a business and we pay for a certain amount of time, but the whole idea is the ILLUSION that it isnt a transaction. Originally Posted by savak

Huh? So... If a providers 30 minute rate is $200 and her 60 minute rate is $300 and you agree to have a 30 minute appointment for $200 but stay 60 minutes which she usually charges everyone else $300 minutes for but you don't think you should compensate her for 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes because that takes away from the GFE??!

How is that fair to clients that pay the correct rate instead of being an asshole and seeing how far he can press her time?

I never make a guy feel like a walking ATM... But if he is professional and would like a return visit from me... He needs to respect my rates, times, and services or he can kiss my sweet lil' rear end goodbye... Way too many kind, considerate, generous, men out there for me to waste my time and energy with rude and disrespectful ones.

Sounds like you need to buy more time up front. Hope you tip if you over stay your paid up time. Originally Posted by canyonman

You can say that again canyonman...

I give my regulars that have been seeing me for awhile (Shit, some of them years.) extra time if they want... But they always see me (and compensate me accordingly) for the 2 - 6 hours that they request.

Just like when you have a personal trainer... You pay her the correct amount for her services... But perhaps after you've known her for years she lets you have an extra 30 or so minutes... Because she knows you appreciate and respect her time... And she knows if she keeps you happy you will be a returning client and that is more money in her savings account!! Think smart ladies!!

As my regulars hear me rant about constantly....its effing nuts what you guys put up with some providers. I just dont feel its fair when a girl isn't literally giving ALL of herself to a man for that hour or so....*you're getting paid*
Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

Bullshit. I don't have to give him all of me just because he threw a few hundred dollar bills at me... Generosity and chemistry has more to do with it than anything... But that's just me.

I don't spend my time talking about other providers during my session... Unless we are talking about doubles or something... If the guy doesn't want to put up with it he doesn't have to go back to that provider.

I swear Im going to make a Escort Boot Camp for all the "Answers door in Flip Flops and Sweats" Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

Is answering the door in socks and sweats better? I'm offended... Hehe jk

Oops, didn't read all the posts... I am on my iPad.

I think non-GFE is a provider that rushes the session and there is no connection!! And she makes it clear that she does not want there to be a connection in anyway. It is just a transaction to the provider. Lucky for me, 99% of the ladies I seen have been GFE. Originally Posted by Blckpr

Glad your experiences have been mostly positive Blckpr... What I can't stand is when some of these guys brag in their reviews about how they went 2 hours (more or less) over the agreed upon time and didn't even tip!! That is just plain rude... and then they wonder why you won't respond to their PM's!! Hahahahaha!! Well, lol apparently...from seeing some of the comments on this site (and on this thread in particular) some of the chicks prefer if you would stay over their time and not compensate... so i suppose feel free to stay over with them... but not with this business woman!! Tracy and I (Some of you might remember this thread...http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=862873) will be driving to the bank to make deposits while some of you are still in an appointment and not being paid correctly for your time... And probably running straight to the mall after to spend the money you were able to get... Smart business woman who understand that "time is money" will always come out on top and get the promotion instead of the ones that are just looking to win a couple brownie points because someone was able to sweet talk her a line of BS.

Novatx, we met once, and thank you!..... GFE to me is convo, allowing some touching and caressing, light LFK, more convo, more light touching...... and then like the old days.................. doing a "homerun". So thanks for the GFE we had. Originally Posted by ttmax

Your a true class act ttmax...and so easy going!!

Girls really sweat you guys over time like that? Thats just so odd to me...to keep looking at a clock when I have a naked man in my bed...Im usually more focused on other things!
Starting to think I really AM the ONLY gal who actually unplugs the clock as soon as she checks into a room...im not gonna need that =)

Im bad sometimes with going over on time....but wow I would never ask or expect a man to tip me BC we got caught in a good moment a few minutes longer.. Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

So... Your saying guys can just book you for 60 minutes and stay for however long they want and only compensate you for 60 minutes? That doesn't sound vey profitable.

I don't watch the clock either... But I also rarely do 60 minute appointments... I never expect a tip... But as I have found, a gentleman will most always indeed do this... Or take me shopping... Invite me to breakfast/lunch/dinner... Bring me surprises like gift cards, perfume, flowers and such.

I agree. If a girl is rushing and acting mechanical, obviously not enjoying what she does, deffffinitely not GFE regardless of actual services! A BBBJ or Being friendly does not mean your actually connecting with people either. IMO Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

A provider giving mechanical services, rushing you, texting and being obvious that she would rather be somewhere else is plain rude... I would never treat a client this way. I would rather cancel the appointment if I do not feel like I am in the mood... Or if I am stressed or whatever.

I'm not a clock watcher, but I'm aware!
I don't mind if a gent is 5 or 10 minutes over, no big deal. when it gets to be 20-30 minutes over, then I'm not shy at all to speak up... Or walk out in that case

When a guy has no regard for a ladies time it's just rude. We have real world stuff, other plans, some have hired a sitter etc ....

Everyone has an opinion on this and if you are interested in mine, send a pm. Originally Posted by bearf15amc

If you're interested in sharing your opinion, feel free to write it here!

I'm not a clock watcher, but I'm aware!
I don't mind if a gent is 5 or 10 minutes over, no big deal. when it gets to be 20-30 minutes over, then I'm not shy at all to speak up... Or walk out in that case

When a guy has no regard for a ladies time it's just rude. We have real world stuff, other plans, some have hired a sitter etc .... Originally Posted by Novatx

So in other words... You are smart and won't be walked all over or taken advantage of!!

So in other words... You are smart and won't be walked all over or taken advantage of!! Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

Yeah !!! Lol

...you don't think you should compensate her for 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes because that takes away from the GFE??! Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

oh you have that so twisted, I wasn't necessarily trying to say a provider needs to stretch 30 minutes into one or two hours, not at all, I mean the provider who has one eye on her client, and the other eye on the hour glass waiting for the sand to finally run out to scoot her shmuck out the door.

"why thank you for reminding me how much you would rather not have me around, i'll be on my way then"

I give my regulars that have been seeing me for awhile (Shit, some of them years.) extra time if they want... But they always see me (and compensate me accordingly) for the 2 - 6 hours that they request. Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

good for the both of y'all. glad y'all have that worked out so well.

Generosity and chemistry has more to do with it than anything...If the guy doesn't want to put up with it he doesn't have to go back to that provider. Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

exactly, we don't, we'll leave, not return, notate the customer friendliness (or lackthereof) of the provider in the review, pass the reconnaissance to our friends and move on to another provider who actually is cool and come back and see her instead.

I'm not a clock watcher, but I'm aware!
I don't mind if a gent is 5 or 10 minutes over, no big deal. when it gets to be 20-30 minutes over, then I'm not shy at all to speak up.... Originally Posted by Novatx

This is what i'm talking about, I'm sure there are shmucks who will weasel 20 or 30 minutes out of 30 minute session, but for legit clients who are enjoying themselves, in the heat of it, or the slower clients who are struggling either due to age or it just not being their day/night for some reason by allowing those small extra 5 or 10 minutes without making you feel like an actual shmuck, that goes a long way. When a provider shows a little compassion by not acting like the girls at the Asian Massage Parlors, then that woman will be given her praise, return visits, gifts, generosity, and loyalty. I guess we all gauge that or how to attain that a little differently.

The last girl that I saw this week I would consider to be all the way GFE. The time together did not seem to me to be monitored, but we all know that you don't have to monitor the time to kinda know how much time has passed. Now what makes her GFE, as others have said the kissing, carressing and non hurried fun time. If she wants if to be GFE for me then I want it to be like you are with a girl friend. No one can actually guarantee that any of us will actually have a GFE under the conditions we are operating in, but hopefully it can get as close as possible. But one other thing (some of you may think this is stupid) I think the in call location plays into this also, that's why I really like an apartment or home, I think it ads to the experience.

I really enjoy seeing the same girl multiple times. I want the time between them not to go to long so we still feel confortable together. I think that helps the first date jitters.

All the above posts have given me some ideas and direction, this time I read all of them. Thanks to all they are very interesting.

Thanks Novatx

anyone who thinks the gfe involves a specific list has:

a. never had a girlfriend
b. 100% chance of being disappointed

@XOXO Karla

I do understand that this is a business. And I have been very lucky. But I must say also that I am very selective with the ladies that I choose. Like you ladies, I do my homework. I respect the her time just like I expect her to respect mine. I am a gentleman first and foremost!

anyone who thinks the gfe involves a specific list has:

a. never had a girlfriend
b. 100% chance of being disappointed Originally Posted by john_deere

Ha! You're funny

Nova, you are sweet, shy, and flirty fun. You have boundaries that we encountered and discussed and those are what makes you seem non-GFE. First, there is limited kissing as you leave (so you would feel fresh and clean wherever you were going next). With me, you started by telling me of your shyness and need for me to initiate and guide you. If you didn't let me know that, I would have thought you were less interested in me. You are cautious and very aware of hygiene, so I think if someone is lacking here, you wouldn't tell him but would continue the session with more caution and less enthusiasm.

You are GFE when you click with someone. You definately have standards and a type that you prefer. I felt you were light GFE, like a GF that I'm just getting to know. I would enjoy seeing you again to get closer to full GFE.

Huh? So... If a providers 30 minute rate is $200 and her 60 minute rate is $300 and you agree to have a 30 minute appointment for $200 but stay 60 minutes which she usually charges everyone else $300 minutes for but you don't think you should compensate her for 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes because that takes away from the GFE??!

How is that fair to clients that pay the correct rate instead of being an asshole and seeing how far he can press her time?

I never make a guy feel like a walking ATM... But if he is professional and would like a return visit from me... He needs to respect my rates, times, and services or he can kiss my sweet lil' rear end goodbye... Way too many kind, considerate, generous, men out there for me to waste my time and energy with rude and disrespectful ones.



You can say that again canyonman...

I give my regulars that have been seeing me for awhile (Shit, some of them years.) extra time if they want... But they always see me (and compensate me accordingly) for the 2 - 6 hours that they request.

Just like when you have a personal trainer... You pay her the correct amount for her services... But perhaps after you've known her for years she lets you have an extra 30 or so minutes... Because she knows you appreciate and respect her time... And she knows if she keeps you happy you will be a returning client and that is more money in her savings account!! Think smart ladies!!



Bullshit. I don't have to give him all of me just because he threw a few hundred dollar bills at me... Generosity and chemistry has more to do with it than anything... But that's just me.

I don't spend my time talking about other providers during my session... Unless we are talking about doubles or something... If the guy doesn't want to put up with it he doesn't have to go back to that provider.



Is answering the door in socks and sweats better? I'm offended... Hehe jk Originally Posted by XOXO Karla

Wow Karla, sorry if for some reason my statement did not sit well with you, I did'nt mean it in an offensive manner towards anyone here. All I was saying was that, in my opinion, I feel if you are getting paid X amount of money to give a man experience-you should do just that that!

I would never let a guy just sit around for an extra hour, but yes I am totally guilty of sometimes going 15 minutes over, no big deal. Yes my time is money, but I only see 2 Gentlemen a day, and yes, I always give my absolute fullest. Can't say I speak too much of other gals when I have dick in my mouth, but I know daily I see new clients who are WAY to suprised and grateful by amazing service and treatment than they should be.

Would'nt call that getting taken advantage of, no worse than say selling oneself for less than it cost to fill up a Yukon. Plenty do, I feel THATS getting taken advantage of. Giving an extra 10min convo time, nope.. dont feel taken advantage of, at all!

I believe the enchanting Trinity Kane summed it up quite nicely in her EPIC post/thread....

Enjoy...


http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1054237107&postcount=1
(Should be a sticky...in ALL the forums! LoL!)


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All I was saying was that, in my opinion, I feel if you are getting paid X amount of money to give a man experience-you should do just that that! Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

I would never let a guy just sit around for an extra hour, but yes I am totally guilty of sometimes going 15 minutes over, no big deal....Would'nt call that getting taken advantage of, no worse than say selling oneself for less than it cost to fill up a Yukon. Plenty do, I feel THATS getting taken advantage of. Giving an extra 10min convo time, nope.. dont feel taken advantage of, at all! Originally Posted by Candi Staxx

AMEN.

and for this I thank you and get on my knees and praise you the way a Sunni prays to Mecca.



^^

thats how I feel when a provider does what Candi does during her sessions.

Candi Staxx FTW!!