When a lady is late to an outcall..

You don't deal with the things that I deal with.

It has nothing to do with how good business is, it's the fact that these last minute cancellations & last minute changes ARE RUINING business in the long run.

How can I keep my schedule if my clients can't keep theirs? I'm late for an appointment because someone else was late to theirs. That's not okay.

I don't choose the appt time or length, I am not scheduling anything AROUND you - I'm scheduling you. I make sure that I have what I need to be done, within the time frame I have before you arrive - let me know that you're not going to arrive - & not 5 minutes before you're set to do so.

BTW, I think the no cancellation policy is a little harsh...but who am I to say & if business is that good more power to her. Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Which is why, I like to keep a schedule. But if 3 men all come late to their appointments, Originally Posted by DianaDeepthroats

And I assume these 3 men all have separate appts. between 6 and 9?? I can see where that would ruin your whole evening.

I don't do incalls, so it's not an issue. But the lady running late, is one hell of an issue. Because that screw up the time I'm having with the other 3 providers that night.

I just saw this - but you said everything that I feel.. with the shoe on my foot. You explained exactly how I feel.. to the T.

This is right on the cusp of NCNS. I give no allowances for an NCNS. That is just me. Most people will say something like, "shit happens." I say that even in the most extreme situation, unless the provider is unconscious, she should at least call. That wipes out the NCNS.

Now, to get to the question asked. If a lady is going to be late, I prefer she call and let me know as soon as she does and give me an estimate of how late she will be. If I have to wait until she shows up w/o knowing, I will assume she blew me off (not in the good way), and if she does arrive, I'll be pissed and it'll ruin the session. I can't recover from the feeling that the provider didn't care enough to call and say she was running late. Most providers think something like, "it was only the one hour donation." I'm here to tell you several hundred dollars is not "only" to me. It's real money, and I feel like it's been stolen from me and not traded.

Bottom line, it doesn't affect the donation (even though I wish it would). But it does affect my willingness to see her a second time. They say consumers' greatest power is voting with their feet. And that's what I do. And then I do the review. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

+1

Sadly it's not only in our hobby we see this. Call it GPS or I just don't give a shit, but guess what your Doctor does it to you as well. Why, cause they know they can get away with it.......I once had a friend send the a doctor an invoice for his time based on his hourly rate and said you bought my time while I waited for your ass an hour after our prebooked appointment...Any provider that expects pmt after she shows up late beyond 15 min without a call should get an invoice for our time (yeah right I know)......Only exception if you have a regular that you know if you says 7pm and she always shows up at 7:15pm lol....then it is understood, but she still calls :-). Bottom line is it is Greed and Rude and will continue if we allow it. Time is money and these NCNS ladies are assuming we are just setting here playing with our horny self. Trying to cover it up with a lie like the one guy said, I tried to call you, your phone must be broken only shows it was not an accident, I'm sure she was thinking, if you want what I got you can wait (GPS).....I would rather talk to the hand. I'm glad we have this site to vent/review those who are NCNS cause they give the other girls a bad name until you figure out the game...

And I assume these 3 men all have separate appts. between 6 and 9?? I can see where that would ruin your whole evening.

I don't do incalls, so it's not an issue. But the lady running late, is one hell of an issue. Because that screw up the time I'm having with the other 3 providers that night. Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

REAL scenario here.

1 guy @ 330 for 30 mins. showed up 20 minutes late.
1 guy @ 500 for 90 mins. showed up 40 minutes late.
1 guy @ 730 requested a 30 min - I declined.
1 guy @ 800 for 60 mins. called at 750 to cancel.

The guy at 330 got there at 400. leaving around 430. That leaves me with THIRTY minutes to rush & get ready before I think my 2nd guy is to arrive - should have been an hour. But then - it ends up being an hour anyway (after I've just rushed), which changes my mood.. Guy 2 gets here at 540 leaves at about 720pm.. leaving me again, with 40 minutes to rush & get ready.. (when he should of been gone by 630.) & the guy who called to cancel.. I was livid. Why?

If you call me at 5:30, to schedule for 8:00pm. Then, I get a call from another guy @ 7:30pm, saying he wants to schedule, well, he cant come right before your 8pm appt obviously, so, I'm going to have to tell him I'm not available. Then, you call me at 7:50-7:55 saying that something came up and you're going to need to to be cancel.. The other appt, I could've had - is moot and I have now also do not have anything scheduled with you. I have now missed out on 2 appointments because you couldn't call me within a reasonable time to cancel.

Diana.

@DDT

I must have missed it, but the thread was all about OUTCALLS. But every example you've given since the start of the thread was about Incalls. Did the thread swerve, or did you mean Incall in the first place?

That may have been partially my fault as I was inquiring her time frame of a preferred time to get a reasonable cancellation. The example she brught up of guys cancelling 5 to ten minutes before is un exceptable of those gents to do. I would hope she lets their references they used to verify know they tend to be flaky after booking a solified time.

But the question Id like to know is what time frame would she prefer those guys let her know in advance. 12 hours, a day, one hour prior to appt, etc. That just as important to know as I presume.

If I wanted to see Diana for a time and had to make a cancellation preferably 12 hours before or more Id definitely want to know beforehand before being totally barred due to something I couldnt control. Otherwise all the prescreening and research is to no avail NO?

I hobby for fun therefore I try to give myself as big a time window as I can. If I'm doing outcall it means that I'm at a hotel for the night and have some flexibility to my time. If she calls me to tell me she is running late I can adjust. What really bugs me is no calls. If I know what is going on I can usually adjust my life to deal with it. If I don't then they how long do I wait for her before I figure it's a lost cause and do something else. Thats what bugs me. What I do want is once she is there is her undivided time. A provider answering her phone every 5 minutes just destroys the mood.

I'm the type who enjoys contact prior to the date. An hour before...when we are on our way to the date...once we get there....contact, contact, contact. Call, text message, emails, something!

I have been more then 10 mins late only once, and I made sure I kept in contact with my date the entire time. I was late due to traffic reasons. Since he was a regular, he understand and there were no problems.

There is very little reason to be late. Even my excuse of traffic doesn't really hold water. You should always allow yourself enough time in case problems arise. But of course the majority of us don't....but at least make contact and have an explaination. This would, after all, show that you respect them and their time. A lot of hobbiests/clients are working on really tight schedules.

My suggestion: pretend you're going through airport security, and if you don't allow enough time, you'll miss your plane. If you want to make trip, you'll have to purchase another ticket and schedule a different flight.

Sometimes, I wish the rules of the hobby allowed a 25% reduction in the donation for every 15 minutes the provider is late. Wouldn't be hard to do now that we all have cell phones and the time on mine is identical to the time on the providers due to cell towers syncing the time.

However, all this is a pipe dream.

My favorite was when the lady was late to her incall. That was a beaut.

It sounds like you are referring to an incall vs. an outcall....

Anywho...I have little to no tolerance for her being unable to make her own incall appointment (unless she is trying to accomodate my schedule and is upfront about it, like, "I will try to be there at noon but I can't promise anything. I'm coming from across town and my class doesn't get out until 11:30 that morning...).

I build sometime into my travel for contingencies. So if I don't hit traffic I'm usually 10-15 minutes early because I know my tardiness (usually) is deducted from my time. I'll wait until 3-4 minutes before the appt & only then advise her I'm there

BTW, I think the no cancellation policy is a little harsh...but who am I to say & if business is that good more power to her. Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Guess I should actually read the OP but this late thing pushed a button. Sorry. I did do an outcall once and she was almost 40 mins late and then wanted me to include her friend in the deal for an extra $80.00. Little head was workin overtime tryin to talk me into it, but time had run out for me and big head prevailed. Side note: she was BP girl and her pics were at least 3 yrs old, that helped BH do his job. Glad I found ECCIE.

I haven't done outcalls often. One lady was half an hour late once, but it was due to much-worse-than-anticipated inclement weather and she keep me posted, so it wasn't at all a concern. I didn't give it a second thought, and it didn't affect our date at all.

But there was another time with another lady . . . .

This one was an overnight, the only one I've ever scheduled (you'll understand why). It was to take place around a meeting/conference. The plan was that she would get to the hotel around 6 so we'd have time to play before my dinner meeting at 7:30. While I was at dinner, she could eat at the hotel and relax a bit. Then I'd get back to the room around 10 and we could play some more. The next morning, I had a meeting from 9 - 10:30, which would give us an opportunity for playtime before the morning meeting and after.

She quoted me a price for the overnight. She'd demonstrated an occasional problem with tardiness before. So I agreed to the price but mentioned that it might be appropriate to discount if she were significantly late.

She didn't show at 6. Or 6:30. She texted me periodically throughout the night to tell me that she was on her way, or would be there soon. "Soon" turned out to be about 1:40 in the morning. We managed some playtime before falling asleep, although I was tired/exhausted and didn't enjoy it as much as I might have under other circumstances; didn't even make it past the BJ to the main event. Maybe some suppressed anger or frustration contributed to that as well. She didn't wake up early and I let her sleep -- shaking her roughly and saying "hey, wake up and suck my dick" seemed rude -- while I took a shower and went to my meeting. She finally woke up shortly after I returned from the meeting, around 10:15 or 10:30. More playtime, although even less "successful" (from my perspective anyway) than the night before.

As she was preparing to go, she suggested a $300 discount, along with a couple of free sessions in the future. The time for me to negotiate a different deal or cancel altogether had long passed. Since I didn't cancel, it was partly my fault as well, and she did spend the night even if the "results" were less than I'd anticipated -- so I accepted the deal she proposed. Somehow we never managed to get together for those free sessions (surprised?), and she left the business permanently within a couple of months. I never heard from her again, although a mutual acquaintance told me that she's addressed some problems, settled into her new life, and is living happily ever after. I'm glad for her, and hope it continues.

In retrospect, I probably should have cancelled at least when she hadn't arrived by 10:00. Why didn't I? I'd seen her about 40 times before; she was a favorite/regular at the time. You make extra allowances for a friend and/or somebody with whom you particularly enjoy BCD. Plus I kept thinking that she'd be there soon, and I likely couldn't have made other arrangements by then anyway; at least I could salvage something out of the evening. Finally, I understand the difficulties the ladies face, so I'm uncomfortable about cancelling unless it's well in advance of the scheduled time. It would have left her in a bind financially, and I probably would have felt some (unwarranted) guilt about that.

But, yeah, I should have cancelled.