in the upper right hand corner to report the email.
My one or two general comments without naming a provider has brought out the attackers.
I'm receiving threatening PMs for sharing my thoughts.
Those threatening PMs have been forwarded to the appropriate levels. Originally Posted by bonn11
It just means you're hitting a nerve Originally Posted by mayorcastro
Bonn, Don't forget to hit theDefinitely report it. The actions of her supporters have been out of control for too long... It's not just you... They pick on the ladies as well....
What you Yayhoos are failing to realize is that WE, (we being, those of us that have a problem with her being careless with her clients information), are not the problem here.
Slave Guinevere's refusal to address the numerous indiscretions along with her merry band of White Knights overlooking these indiscretions in defending her is where the problem lies.
Slave Guinevere is reckless with her clients information.
She has proven this time and time again.
She refuses to acknowledge this issue and her WKs continually defending her leads her to believe that it's okay to carelessly fling that information around.
That's what leads us to where we are today.
To this day, she has still not addressed this matter directly and head-on. She only popped-in to try and deflect attention away from her and try to discredit me in the process. She cast speculation and conjecture to which I gave my rebuttal.
No biggie.
However, the issue remains...
She has yet to take any responsibility for her actions, nor has she addressed the matter directly, as a paid-professional, and more importantly, as an adult, should.
That's a problem.
You WKs only compound the problem by making excuses for her and allow these actions to perpetuate.
WKs, if you want to be a friend and if you want to help her, why not try to help fix the problem instead of making excuses for her?
Can you not see that had you allowed her to realize that being careless with any client's information is not cool, and had you allowed her to learn from her initial fuck-up, that we probably wouldn't be having this shit clutter up the forums today?
Look, we get it. You feel that you're helping her by defending her. You're failing to realize thatthis is turning into a habitual and frequent occurrence and it's largely the result of your defending her actions by making excuses for them as opposed to making her accountable for them.
How is she supposed to learn that she needs to stop being so careless with that sort of information?
No one mistakes your kindness for weakness, WKs. We get it. You're just human doormats and people mistake you for pussies. Now shut the fuck up about it and let her learn that client confidentiality is a crucial piece of this thing we're doing here.
The sooner she learns that, the sooner the negativity will stop, the sooner this will all be a distant memory, and the sooner we can all get back to the nicey, nicey ways these forums used to be.
Slave Guinevere, why won't you address this matter directly?
Your refusal to do so only reflects negatively on your professionalism.
...and since this is the latest in what's turning into a series, it's only obvious that the trend is going to continue unless changes are made on your end.
THERE IS NO GOOD PART in posting a clients information This god damn deal around here is getting more fucked up than a box of coat hangers. I don't know what's worse, her thinking it was no big deal posting it, or you WKs making excuses for her posting it. This deal is fucked up on more levels than I can even tell you dudes and I refer you to my signature line for clarification. You folks are absolutely fucking killing me around here! All these fucking reality shows on television have everybody wanting to audition for Teddy Mack's amateur hour for christ sake!
Get it together folks, take a deep breath and give some consideration to what it really is we do around this joint and how it can potentially affect OTHERS, not just you.
I can't believe Slave Guinevere posted that shit in an open forum, I can't believe that this doesn't sound off fucking alarms to everyone who sees it, I can't believe anyone could perpetually be so careless with that sort of shit, I can't believe that the WKs are excusing her for posting it, and I go back to I still can't believe that Slave Guinevere actually posted that shit in an open forum..
She's all ate up with a serious case of the dumbass in an all so serious way, and I do mean serious! I know this, I recognize it, because I invented that shit
Just pray that the wrong client's information doesn't slip out and that he's not the one who has to suffer for your being so reckless with his information.
Let's not forget what it is that we do around here, folks. These sort of things can have some real, serious, and lasting consequences for certain people...some of them even life-changing and drastic consequences.
...damn.
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What you Yayhoos are failing to realize is that WE, (we being, those of us that have a problem with her being careless with her clients information), are not the problem here.
Slave Guinevere's refusal to address the numerous indiscretions along with her merry band of White Knights overlooking these indiscretions in defending her is where the problem lies.
Slave Guinevere is reckless with her clients information.
She has proven this time and time again.
She refuses to acknowledge this issue and her WKs continually defending her leads her to believe that it's okay to carelessly fling that information around.
That's what leads us to where we are today.
To this day, she has still not addressed this matter directly and head-on. She only popped-in to try and deflect attention away from her and try to discredit me in the process. She cast speculation and conjecture to which I gave my rebuttal.
No biggie.
However, the issue remains...
She has yet to take any responsibility for her actions, nor has she addressed the matter directly, as a paid-professional, and more importantly, as an adult, should.
That's a problem.
You WKs only compound the problem by making excuses for her and allow these actions to perpetuate.
WKs, if you want to be a friend and if you want to help her, why not try to help fix the problem instead of making excuses for her?
Can you not see that had you allowed her to realize that being careless with any client's information is not cool, and had you allowed her to learn from her initial fuck-up, that we probably wouldn't be having this shit clutter up the forums today?
Look, we get it. You feel that you're helping her by defending her. You're failing to realize thatthis is turning into a habitual and frequent occurrence and it's largely the result of your defending her actions by making excuses for them as opposed to making her accountable for them.
How is she supposed to learn that she needs to stop being so careless with that sort of information?
No one mistakes your kindness for weakness, WKs. We get it. You're just human doormats and people mistake you for pussies. Now shut the fuck up about it and let her learn that client confidentiality is a crucial piece of this thing we're doing here.
The sooner she learns that, the sooner the negativity will stop, the sooner this will all be a distant memory, and the sooner we can all get back to the nicey, nicey ways these forums used to be.
Slave Guinevere, why won't you address this matter directly?
Your refusal to do so only reflects negatively on your professionalism.
...and since this is the latest in what's turning into a series, it's only obvious that the trend is going to continue unless changes are made on your end.
THERE IS NO GOOD PART in posting a clients information This god damn deal around here is getting more fucked up than a box of coat hangers. I don't know what's worse, her thinking it was no big deal posting it, or you WKs making excuses for her posting it. This deal is fucked up on more levels than I can even tell you dudes and I refer you to my signature line for clarification. You folks are absolutely fucking killing me around here! All these fucking reality shows on television have everybody wanting to audition for Teddy Mack's amateur hour for christ sake!
Get it together folks, take a deep breath and give some consideration to what it really is we do around this joint and how it can potentially affect OTHERS, not just you.
I can't believe Slave Guinevere posted that shit in an open forum, I can't believe that this doesn't sound off fucking alarms to everyone who sees it, I can't believe anyone could perpetually be so careless with that sort of shit, I can't believe that the WKs are excusing her for posting it, and I go back to I still can't believe that Slave Guinevere actually posted that shit in an open forum..
She's all ate up with a serious case of the dumbass in an all so serious way, and I do mean serious! I know this, I recognize it, because I invented that shit
Just pray that the wrong client's information doesn't slip out and that he's not the one who has to suffer for your being so reckless with his information.
Let's not forget what it is that we do around here, folks. These sort of things can have some real, serious, and lasting consequences for certain people...some of them even life-changing and drastic consequences.
...damn.
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SOFAKINGFUN AND THE ART OF DISCRETION… IN HIS OWN WORDS:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=796385&highlight=
Clearing The Air
**Warning**
This is what NOT to do and "Bad Behavior". Proceed at your own risk.
Miss Cleo informed me telepathically, or I should say, "I suspect that..." I am the subject of an Alert posted somewhere by the provider,jessicaroman.
While I hate airing dirty laundry publicly, in this instance, I have no other choice. This is just another example of an ugly breakup...so save the speeches and save the comments. We crossed the line and we learned our lesson...so, yeah, we get it. I'm only bringing this to light due to the fact that I feel that the reality of these events is slightly different than she might be painting it out to be and since this alert is supposedly posted someplace unknown, and one in which I have no access to reply, it's allowed to remain there unchecked.
So basically, the rub here, for me anyway, is that any provider who sees it will only see her slightly skewed side of the story and I believe that they should hear the flip-side before making their decision on whether to see my (angry, psychotic. lol!) ass or not.
But it's going to be a pretty-good story because I'm starting it off with,
"So this bitch..." (lol! i kid. I kid.)
Seriously now.
It seems that in this alert, I suspect that jessicaroman stated, among other things, that I pose some sort of danger to the ladies of the hobby community. It's alleged that I went out of my way to collect personal information on her, that I abandoned her at a hotel and then had her car towed, that I showed-up to her house unexpectedly, that I have a horrible temper and anger issues, that I blew up her
e-mail accounts and her cell phone, and pretty much paints me out to be a raving lunatic.
She supposedly goes on to say that she "made a mistake by saying that she loved me" (which I can only imagine is to try and distance her from the affair/'arrangement', so as to prove her the victim. (I don't know, just my guess.?) and while she admits that we crossed the line regarding boundaries, she
leaves out a lot of critical information.
That said, jessicaroman and I DID cross the provider/client line. BIG TIME!
In fact, I would go so far as to say this is the epitome of what you're NOT supposed to do in the Hobby. This is the poster child. Heh!
Jessicaroman and I met first in late April, 2013. She and I had an unbelievably great time together and we started seeing each other regularly,,,and frequently. Like I said, we crossed the line BIG TIME starting on our second date, we got caught in the passion and wentbareback.(GASP!! The dreaded BB! I know, I know..)..creampies and all..and from then on, we continued...but it was okay
because she said that she "only does that with her SO".heh!
There were freebees, and Off-The-Clock encounters and naturally, feelers started developing we sort of became an item. We tried theexclusive thing for a while and things just didn't work out. We were constantly getting into arguments
and acting stupid. We'd block each others numbers and emails and during these arguments, we'd say the most awful things to each other. It was ridiculous. We'd break-up and get back together so often, it started to become a frequent occurrence. But or what ever the reason, we'd always end-up back together again once we calmed down and were able to speak to each other.
I only mention this to show that a) there was a *little more* to it than an arrangement, and B) why I was so persistent in trying to talk to her. I wasn't any different this break-up as I was before. It's just that this time, she was serious about ending the thing, which caught me off-guard. So it took a
while to sink in, but I eventually understood and started to back away.
- THIS is my "not letting go". I'll own my fuck-ups and I guess I have to own this one. So yeah. I guess she's right on this one. I don't give up too easily when feelers are involved. (shrugs)
During this time, jessicaroman and I decided that we'd try to go the exclusive route. Like I said, feelers started to develop and the "L" word came into the picture. She claimed that she didn't want to see other clients and I didn't want to share her, so why not?
Well, being that she was stepping away from the hobby (NOT BEING FORCED OUT, skipper) and was going to start looking for a job and being that I needed some help around the office, we decided that she would come work for me.
Yes, I hired her as an employee. (on two different occasions, in fact). a "personal
assistant" with various other office duties. In the business that I'm in, and the position for which she was hired, she would be dealing with and responsible for various monies from the business; be it from sales, payments, or whatever. There's often a pretty substantial amount that goes through there. So, being that I've only known jessicaroman for a month or so, I DID run a background check on her from
information gathered from her employment application. It was just part of the employment process and in NO WAY was done to "gather her personal information", as she might be claiming. If this is out of line, then why don't you let someone you barely know handle yourmoney unchecked? It was just routiene employment screening. Period. (and in her defense, there never was an issue with her and her being responsible for the company's money).
-THIS is her claim that I "gathered personal information" on her.
During the course of this employment, jessicaroman was supposed to open up the office one morning as I had plans that would keep me away in time to open up. I walked her through the process , showed her how to disarm the alarm and gave her my keys before she left for the day. Next morning, she didn't show for
work and didn't open up like she was supposed to. I called her to find out what was going on and she became irate and started bitching me out. I then got upset and, well, it was on. lol.and finally I told her to keep the MFers or words to that effect. . Well, my dumb ass, thinking she was going to be there in the morning never took her no-showing into account, and it dawned on me that the keys to the
locks at the storage facility were on that ring of keys that I had given to her..and I needed them because I had just purchased/ picked up a 40' storage container and needed to deliver/drop it out there but, since she had my keys, I had no way of getting in. I tried calling/texting, nada. She stopped answering my texts/calls so I called the main office and had one of the gals there pull her file and
get me her address. It wasn't too far from where I was, so fuck it, I head over to her house and get my keys from off of the ground where she threw them, lol before rudely slamming the door on me and I left.
-THIS is me showing up to her place, "unexpectedly"
Perhaps unwanted, but certainly not unexpected.... and this was THE [U]ONLY[U] time that I have EVER been to her house. To get my keys. PERIOD!
We are supposed to have an overnight. We're at the hotel and get into an argument over the most ridiculous thing and we send this one over the top. She left her ride over at my office and rode with me to the hotel. Well, she decides to start calling someone to pick her up because, "she couldn't stand to be in the same room as me" I try talking to her...nothing. I start pleading with her. Nuh Uhh. on and on and still, Nope! So fuck it, I slam my coke down on the table and she gets splashed with some of it. (Oh fuck..) Now, she freaks and all of the sudden because she got splashed with some Coca~Cola, I'm "violent" and an "abusive". Pffft!
Anyway, she doesn't want anything to do with me and I'm just as agitated over the ridiculousness of it all that I say fuck it and grab two bags and proceed to take them down to the car. There are still a few bags still left in the room as well as hers, so she knew that I'd be coming back for them because I certainly wasn't going to leave them there,
So of course I was going to come back and get them...in reality, I was just hoping the time apart will allow us to calm down and regroup. I drop
the bags in the car and return to the room. Jessicaroman and her bags are gone. and mine are still there. hmm? I'm thinking that she probably went down to the car and that we must have missed/crossed each other in the elevators. I grab the remaining bags and misc crap that was there and head down. I get to the car, she's not there. I call her on her phone, straight to voice mail. I try again, she
hangs up on me. Try again, straight to voice mail. Fine, I say. and drive off.
I have no idea where she is but common sense tells me that if you want a ride, you either get your ass to the car, OR, you answer the phone of the person who has the keys to the ride you're needing.
Long story short, it was another debacle filled with anger and f-bombs and breakups. lol. BUT, she called and asked me to wait for her so she could pick up her vehicle...well....no, I'm not going to wait, and since they were already going to be closing it up and locking things down for the day/closing the entrance gate, I told her that I wasn't going to wait for her but that she didn't have to worry
because I would "drag her F'ingcar out into the F'ing street" (lol. I was pissed but wouldn't actually do that, but didn't want her to know because we were fighting and had just broken up..yeah, I'll admit it. I'm an asshole when I'm pissed. . Oh, don't point your fingers..Can you say you've never acted stupid when you were pissed? Yeah, I thought so. lol),
Anyway, I didn't want to even see her and I damned sure didn't want her at my place, so I hopped into a wrecker I own and picked her vehicle up with the wheel lift and took it next door and set it on the neighbors parking lot without a
scratching hyde nor hair on the thing. I parked my truck back inside my place, locked-up the gate and left.
Was it wrong of me to leave her there? I felt badly about it, sure. But I asked and she refused, I called and she hung up....so...? Besides, she didn't want to be in the same room as me, what makes me
believe she'd want to be in the same car with me? {shrugs}
-THAT is what the whole abandoning her towing her car incident. So yeah, I'll own this one as well.
With regard to her "arrangement claim and that I have problems letting go".
Perhaps. I have difficulty because I was under the impression that it was more than an arrangement, She makes it seem as if she said the L word once and that's where her "mistake" came from. That wasn't the case. In an arrangement, you don't tell someone you love them, (at least you're not supposed to cuz if
you do, then it clouds things...or so I'm told..?), but certainly not repeatedly. You don't go on vacation with your SO and text/call your'arrangement" partner and tell them that "you love them" and "you wish they were there", and on and on and on. Not in an "arrangement" ...
There may have been an employment arrangement, but that arrangement was over well before this vacation even started. So if it *was* just an "arrangement" and that arrangement was over as she's claiming, why continue shoveling these
"mistakes"(I love yous)? It doesn't make any sense.
And no. It's not that I'm bitter about the break-up or any of that. I still care for her, sure. But I don't want to be in a relationship with her. No, this
is about her attempting a character assassination and doing it where I can't respond.
To prove my point...I last saw jessicaroman on June 16, 2013. This was the last time that she and I were in-person together. Our employment deal was over on June 15, 2013.
She posts this alert sometime around, JULY 10, 2013- almost AN ENTIRE MONTH AFTER we last saw each other AND coincidentally, on the same day that I e-mailed her informing her that I wanted nothing to do with her.
Here are the Million Dollar Questions;
If I am such a danger to the community, why wait at all muchless a MONTH to warn everybody?
Further, if I am such a danger to the community, why would she meet with me for coffee on July 19, 2013 (Friday last), and why on earth would she agree to an appointment with me this morning (July 22, 2013???)
Besides all of that, the majority of this shit happened AFTER she left the hobby, so why claim differently and start by saying, "In all fairness, I'll only post about what happened while I was in the hobby", or however it was worded? (I wouldn't know exactly what was said...I'm just guessing. )
Do the math ladies. The proofs will be forwarded to ck1942, or, according to jessicaroman, "the third-party who instructed her to post this (alleged) alert".
I'm trusting him to be objective and have no reason to believe otherwise, however, can you not see this playing into a stacked deck?
THAT'S how confident I am that what I am saying AND PROVING WITH HARD EVIDENCE is the truth.
Anything else she might be claiming, I'm going to have to guess about, but this is what happened
Now you're free to make an INFORMED decision.
Jessicaroman is a great provider. She's hot and she's a lot of fun. Like I told her the other day. I'm going to miss the p**sy because it is good. But I'll GLADLY give it up to get away from the sorry mother f**ker it's attached to.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Since this is not open for debate and since I wasn't afforded the privilege,
Mods, could you please lock this mother fucker.
Thanck you. Originally Posted by Slave Guinevere
So first how come we never got an awnser to this question?
Hummmm I'm sure there might be several questions... first one I have is JJ why did you close that thread THREE minutes after it was opened??? Simply because the OP requested it??? Maybe you should REOPEN it? What do you think?Originally Posted by Still Looking
I'll start a new thread shortly dedicated to where MODs need to moderate vs closing threads but for now... I was in the middle of the following response....
Originally Posted by Whispers
Guess she doesn't have the guts to NOT fight back, like she quoted in her showcase.
So first how come we never got an answer to this question?I think MODs are like most others and might not realize when they make a mistake and experienced MODs know that when they do make a mistake that they need to correct it if the member is one that will make enough noise about it.
My guess is that we are not going to see MODS go back a year or more and reverse decisions they made then when they did not know better simply because they have learned along the way. Start that up and I think we can produce a couple of hundred threads to reopen right?
and
How come SKF was never banned for revealing Infoshare/Ladies powder room or whatever you call it information I mean SG got banned for just knowing about ML info shouldn't the mods be moding fairly as we just saw in another thread just recently??
MODs do not discuss their actions with us. No one TRULY knows what Slave was banned for. It's all speculation. One thing that is not.... is that San Antonio MODs today are far more educated in what they can and cannot do and how to handle things than they were a year ago.
What is typically done when a party has displayed knowledge of something they should not know is seek where they got the information and if they cooperate their punishment is often less.
Tell a Provider when you stop in to see her you need to check email and ask if you can use her laptop for a moment..... IF you are tight with one and spend long sessions or overnights you may find yourself looking over a shoulder..... Information comes in a variety of ways....
I am also sure that the overall attitude of the person when confronted has something to do with it....
Be an honest guy that simply makes a mistake that no one has a problem with you and you get a slap on the wrist. Be a loud mouthed obnoxious pain in the ass and screw up and have the book thrown at you.
Or do the mods only reopen threads after getting threatened by the hobby savior to start up more shit for them like our hobby savior did here Originally Posted by a10bomb
SG,
Your crusade against SKF is supposed to prove that YOUR lack of discretion is okay?
Indirectly, you are admitting to your lack of discretion, and trying to justify it because you think SKF is guilty of the same thing he's calling you out for. Originally Posted by Beagle
