Odds on Trump's Impeachment

Ya know luv, I believe the Pres is allowed to order surveillance without a judge's order if he links it to terrorism threats, etc. FISA law (aahhh spelling). Benadryl and the pollen 'y'all' have her are killing me.

Not being a citizen, I have an outsiders perspective. Not illegal either. lol

Question, why would Putin want Trump in control and not another extension of Obama, who decimated the military and nuke arsenal? I would think he would be on the 'weaker' side of things and not someone who wants to increase the military.

I am not taking sides, just curious.

Cheers Originally Posted by Sig9er

Decimated the military and nukes? Evidence to back your lies little bigot boy??????????????? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA RUN AWAY LITTLE LIAR, RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You sure have a lot of respect for Russia. What a huge distraction. President Trump won because what Americans were watching in TV and experiencing in real life was abhorrent. We watched our president undermine the police department. We watched riots and violence and our president take sides with the rioters. Have you been to Greece lately? It's bankrupt and crowded AF. How is that for open borders? The cradle of western civilization brought to its knees. The Obama agenda was never about America first. It was peace through surrender. Surrender our economy, border, military. People voted
For Trump because ironically they saw in him the hope that they didn't get with Obama. It's working too. Check your stocks. Check the job count in his first month in office
Let's talk about what we actually know
1. The Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton were hacked. Many of the emails that came out were damning and showed the hypocrisy of the democratic leadership and Hillary Clinton.
2. We don't know for sure who performed these attacks.
3. We did hear from director comey that Russian spies were
Involved more than they had ever seen in our election process. They couldn't say for sure if they were trying to help one candidate or another. They couldn't even say if they influenced the outcome of the election.

IMO if Russia helped expose Hillary Clinton and the democratic leadership we should all send them a thank you card. Originally Posted by Fishy2

HOW THE FUCK DID OBAMA UNDERMINE THE POLICE??????????? Answer the question little old man bigot????????????????????????? ?????????????

With that said: what is the only thing that is more important than MONEY, no it's not pussy, it's HEALTHCARE. Originally Posted by Copierguy0

Well, I clearly whiffed on that question, Cg. Once MONEY was off the table, I checked the box that said PUSSY

HOW THE FUCK DID OBAMA UNDERMINE THE POLICE??????????? Answer the question little old man bigot????????????????????????? ????????????? Originally Posted by Look-at-Stupid

There is a saying don't argue with a fool. Onlookers won't be able to tell the difference.

Well, I didn't ask if you knew. I'm asking what you think, based on the investigation and all that's come to light so far. You can make reasonable deductions.



That's pretty generous, considering you accused him of treason just a few posts ago.



You don't think Putin needs Trump to preserve their culture, do you? I can assure you that the benefits he sees in a Trump presidency has zero to do with Trump's strengths.



How?



I can assure you Russia does not want to do us any favors. How do you feel about their interference? And our existence was never in any real danger before Trump took office. But he sure did want you to believe it was.



Thank you for the kind words. It really isn't a political issue. It's a character issue. I don't really know much about his politics. He's never coherently articulated them.



The world has borders, Fishy. We have borders.



Is this along the same lines as the white privilege issue? Originally Posted by Vivienne Rey

I don’t think Trump has ties to Russia. I don’t believe it. He is sweating them flying their jets close to our shores and close to our boats. I don’t think he has ties with Russia.

I would have to re-read my posts. I don’t recall accusing Obama of treason. Wire tapping trump is not treason. How can the democratically elected president commit treason? I followed President Obama.

The United States is the most powerful nation in the world. Globalisation effects Russia in a major way. If globalisation continues it definitely effects Russia. The United States and Russia are super powers militarily and economically. As the United States outsources jobs and influence to other countries it strengthens those countries we do business with and effects the way that Russia does business in return. It also effects the information and the way their own people view the world.
Russia and China Both use their own national media to help control what their own people think and believe. Similar to what we have at CNN and the MSM. As globalization continues it effects all that information coming into their country. Russian leadership would prefer counties to return to nationalism as globalism is a threat to their national order. Russia has maintained that order as has China.
Add to this the situation in Syria and Ukraine and I guess the Russians thought Trump would be an easier customer to work with.

A nation without borders is not a country. The dream of Barrack Hussain Obama can be summed up IMO in a song by John Lennon entitled “Imagine” Nice song too.

Vivienne, the country is divided. Half and half. The democrats don’t have control of the house, senate, or presidency and they are about to lose the supreme court. That is a fact. A lot of people were not happy with the direction we were headed. We had Obama for 8 years.
Trump is fighting for AMERICAN interests. He is not bringing in illegal immigrants while we have our own poor to take care of. He is enforcing our border and sending a strong message to those thinking of coming that the law will be enforced. (I have friends who are here illegally. I am not going to report them of course. There are laws though. If they got caught… I would understand them getting sent home.) He is not legitimising the black lives matter movement. He is not making the police into the bad guy. He is aggressively going after islamic terrorists. He is supporting our allies. He is not on an apology tour. He is not creating an enemy of Russia. He is not playing King maker in Syria like Obama and his desires for Assad. Obama created this mess in Syria by insisting ASSAD be removed. Trump is enacting economic policies that help our economy flourish. Trump cancelled the TPP and is renegotiating trade deals for Americans best interest. Trump is facing enemies foreign and domestic right now. Stronger domestic than foreign. Many of us have sworn allegiance to fight all enemies both foreign and domestic. The leakers are domestic enemies to the current administration. They are enemies of the constitution and the rule of law. Remember Donald Trump won the military vote 2-1.

I feel happy Hillary Clinton lost. That’s how I feel about the Russian interference. Good riddance. No evidence has been found of any foul play by Trump and the left has scoured high and low. Donald Trump would be in prison if they could have found anything that would stick by now. He is the Teflon Don. If their was a smoking gun then he wouldn’t have lasted a day.

We do have borders for now. This is not about just right now. It’s abut the future of the country. We are fortunate we have the ocean as our great protector. We are trying to protect our country from the slippery slope of socialism. That national debt sky rocketed under Obama. We need to get the economy going again. Many trust Trumps ideas to get it roaring. I said before that if you take a look at Greece or other European countries whose economy is in the gutter. You can see where a country like ours could go if we don’t follow the correct course. The Americans spoke on November 8th and Trump won 304 to 227. That’s all I have to say about that.

Yes. We might let the citizens of Canada and Mexico cast votes in the next election. They are so vocal about what they want for us. I say…. Let them join our country and become state 51 and 52

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This video reminds me of this WITCH HUNT on Trump

"Innocent?! Innocent of what?!"

There is a saying don't argue with a fool. Onlookers won't be able to tell the difference. Originally Posted by 2dogs

No more from me. This fool has explained enough of what happened. This might become an echo chamber forum. My prediction

Hello magik mystic Hubbard. You see how nice a guy using a hookers handle to make you all warm descent. I like you Originally Posted by PeterBota

Thanks Peter my friend. I know Ive got to be climbing the ladder as you favorite liberal. Being Decent to people does not make you a pussy, In fact the reverse happens, people respect you and will follow your lead.

Scared little boys like DJT grow up to be scared little boys. They have to bully people like Rossie O'Donnell. Miss Universe, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, Hillary Clinton, Little Marco, Lying Ted. Low Energy Jeb

Your a lyin little punk Donald. Someone will take you down. Its called Karma

HOW THE FUCK DID OBAMA UNDERMINE THE POLICE??????????? Answer the question little old man bigot????????????????????????? ????????????? Originally Posted by Look-at-Stupid

Damnit Stupid. I thought we were going to be nice to each other. Since you broke our peace though....

I'll answer your question with a question....
Who did the police Unions around the country endorse? DJT
Why did they endorse DJT? If you can answer this question you will have passed the IQ test of the day

Your a lyin' little punk Donald. Someone will take you down. Its called Karma Originally Posted by themystic

Maybe so.

That said...count 'em...sixteen candidates (Rep)...Kasich, Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Bush, Gilmore, Christie, Fiorina, Paul, Santorum, Huckabee, Graham, Pataki, Jindal, Walker and Perry couldn't do it.

Neither could the Dems choice of choices: Mizz Clinton.
And even after Obama stumped on her behalf like no other outgoing prez ever, ever (gawd, I still luv that "personal insult" quote he made while addressing the congressional black caucus foundation last September. Classic stuff.)

And...speaking of the closet muzzie...should these alleged wiretap claims end up being verified (and proven that "the order" came from his office)... Barry's next up on Donald's List of Things to Do.

Karma, indeed.

Maybe so.

That said...count 'em...sixteen candidates (Rep)...Kasich, Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Bush, Gilmore, Christie, Fiorina, Paul, Santorum, Huckabee, Graham, Pataki, Jindal, Walker and Perry couldn't do it.

Neither could the Dems choice of choices: Mizz Clinton.
And even after Obama stumped on her behalf like no other outgoing prez ever, ever (gawd, I still luv that "personal insult" quote he made while addressing the congressional black caucus foundation last September. Classic stuff.)

And...speaking of the closet muzzie...should these alleged wiretap claims end up being verified (and proven that "the order" came from his office)... Barry's next up on Donald's List of Things to Do.

Karma, indeed. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

You know thats true CB. You just really never do no whats going to happen. He did take everyone out, Im still shocked that people supported him to the point of a victory. Im not out marching and protesting, but I do support them. I voted and that was My protest. When they asked Mother Teresa if she would join an Anti-Vietnam protest, she said, " No but if you have a peace rally Ill be there tomorrow". I get that

I wouldnt be surprised at all if Obama wire tapped him. Americans are very naive Things like that happen alot. But so far thats a bunch of hoo ha with no evidence to support it.

Now this thing with the Russians, Wiki-leaks, Flynn stepping down, Paul Manafort going away. Even the son in law Kushner. There are lots of suspiscious links to the Russians with evidence of meetings that, " I never met with the Russians, oh yeah I might have i just forgot".. All this ass kissing DJT does for Putin, at a minimum its weird. Why doesnt he just say, hey we have a big deal we are working on " that is great, its so great youll be begging me, please stop winning so much". Thats what he says about the other stuff he doesnt want to talk about because he either doesnt have a plan or its BS as usual. Just get this Russian thing off the plate. If theres nothing there it will all be over, and he will have some real stroke. The media and democrats will all be liars and making things up. Release your taxes while your at it DJT. Just come clean DJT and all this goes away.

He cant do that. Hes guilty as can be as far as collusion with Russia. Im not saying he won because of the Russians but they certainly interfered and influnced our election. I dont know anything about you CB or how old you are. Do you even give shit about that? Maybe you dont. Maybe its just a big deal to certain Americans. His taxes have stuff in there he absolutley doesnt want exposed. You may like the idea, or not, that DJT is an eyelash away from being a dictator, but most Americans, and eventually most Republicans dont.

You know all the DJT whiners, with DJT being the biggest one, would be butchering Hillary if she would have won. Thats the same thing the Republicans did to Obama. Dont pretend yall "were team players, when Obama was POTUS

I was kind of relieved in weird kind of way when DJT won. Im not sure I wanted to listen to a bunch of whiny ass Republicans talking shit for 4 more years. A dose of Trump might be whats needed for the Repulicans to finally pull thier heads out of thier asses

I don’t think Trump has ties to Russia. I don’t believe it. He is sweating them flying their jets close to our shores and close to our boats. I don’t think he has ties with Russia. Originally Posted by Fishy2

Stumbling, truly. I wonder what truly makes Trump supporters, at this stage in the game, hang on so desperately. It's completely irrational to me.

Russia and China Both use their own national media to help control what their own people think and believe.

Yes. And Russia succeeded here. Again, it's been confirmed. Doesn't that concern you in the least? If you're worried about the existence of our country being in danger, you really need to look no further than our own citizens. Because the weakness lies with them.

Similar to what we have at CNN and the MSM.

But they, and Breitbart and Tomi Lahren and Alex Jones, et al, don't have to succeed, do they? We aren't Russia and China, for the love of Pete. We are free people with open access to information. We have facts available to us all day long. There is literally no excuse for any voter in this country to be so clueless. Yet they are. Putin knew this. Trump knows this. Except Trump is no match for Putin.

Add to this the situation in Syria and Ukraine and I guess the Russians thought Trump would be an easier customer to work with.

That's an understatement.

A lot of people were not happy with the direction we were headed. We had Obama for 8 years.

He, in fact, "inherited a mess". And he did quite well.

Trump is fighting for AMERICAN interests. He is not bringing in illegal immigrants while we have our own poor to take care of.

Please tell me who brought in illegal immigrants. And all signs point to the poor getting the shaft right now.

He is enforcing our border and sending a strong message to those thinking of coming that the law will be enforced. (I have friends who are here illegally. I am not going to report them of course. There are laws though. If they got caught… I would understand them getting sent home.)

Yeah, he's building a wall. That Mexico is paying for. Except they won't. So now, he is looking to cut funding for the Coast Guard and the TSA, along with other agencies that are tasked with protecting us from threats to national security. Why would he do this?

He is not legitimising the black lives matter movement. He is not making the police into the bad guy.

He doesn't get to de-legitimize it. He doesn't have a say. And Obama isn't making the police into the bad guy. Officers who are killing innocent people are the bad guys. It's happening. Unfortunately, it also reflects poorly upon the entire law enforcement community. Perhaps we should focus on improving the recruiting process. Instead of spending millions compensating the families of victims, invest in more effective and thorough screening of recruits. Because police officers don't come from some special pool of flawless humans. And they don't get unconditional respect because they wear a badge. The truth is positions of authority attract more of those who seek to abuse it. We should weed them out before handing them a badge and a gun. Or the keys to the White House.

As for the rest of it, I don't think there is any more I can say that will make a difference. I want him to be all the things you think he is, Fishy. I really, really do. But he's not. I'm trained to identify people like him, and I do, before I rub my eyes in the morning. But we don't have to be trained to do this. We simply have to be conscientious and informed. Being a true patriot and worthwhile contributor to humanity comes pretty easily after that.

Wishing you all the very best.

I'm still shocked that people supported him to the point of a victory. I voted and that was My protest. As did I. And my "protest vote" was cast vehemently more against one Hillary Rodham Clinton than for Mr Trump. More on the Clintons later.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Obama wire tapped him. But so far that's a bunch of hoo ha with no evidence to support it. The evidence, so far, has been circumstantial, at best. But some actualities (call them "facts" if you desire) are beginning to surface (as per Sean Hannity's interview with Sara Carter, per Circa News, last night).

Now this thing with the Russians, Wiki-leaks, Flynn stepping down, Paul Manafort going away. Even the son in law Kushner. There are lots of suspiscious links to the Russians with evidence of meetings that, " I never met with the Russians, oh yeah I might have i just forgot". You're bringing up a lotta things here. A couple of them may be linked. I'm not prepared enough to discuss at this time since it's somewhat conjecture....but the pieces are beginning to fall in place (as one chip fell yesterday per the Wiki-Leaks revelation). Oh, by the way....Hillary's connected to this, as well.

All this ass kissing DJT does for Putin, at a minimum its weird. Why doesn't he just say, hey we have a big deal we are working on " that is great, its so great you'll be begging me, please stop winning so much". That's what he says about the other stuff he doesn't want to talk about because he either doesn't have a plan or its BS as usual. Just get this Russian thing off the plate. If there's nothing there it will all be over, and he will have some real stroke. The media and democrats will all be liars and making things up.

Release your taxes while your at it DJT. Just come clean DJT and all this goes away. Republicans, conservatives, moderates, deplorables, Anti-Clintons, etc ALL voted Trump into office knowing full well he had not released his returns prior to Nov 8th and that he would not be releasing those returns until the audits were completed. This was not nor is it (still) a "sticking point" with (most of) us...not one iota in fact.

It is, however, (still) an issue with those who DID NOT support his candidacy for presidency and did not vote for him. That's fine; you suspect something is there and feel you're entitled to see for yourself. That said, considering there is much to accomplish over the first 100-200 days (per the campaign promises he made to us) the release of these returns will have to wait for the time being. Sorry the corrupt liberal media and whiny left do not feel the same as (most of) us. I understand we're miles apart on this issue; big picture, it's just one of many.

He can't do that. Hes guilty as can be as far as collusion with Russia. That's an opinion only. If it was fact, he'd be going through impeachment proceedings now, wouldn't you think?

I'm not saying he won because of the Russians but they certainly interfered and influenced our election. Again, your opinion. And while you may entertain high hopes that what you believe here is what indeed DID happen, I contend there is much that still needs to come to light before we can say unequivocally what did or did not occur prior to Nov 8.

I dont know anything about you CB or how old you are. I'm old enough to have been around longer than I'd like to claim. More on that...

Do you even give shit about that? No...should I? Maybe you don't. Maybe it's just a big deal to certain Americans. "Certain Americans"...yes, we covered that already, I believe.

His taxes have stuff in there he absolutely doesn't want exposed. Absolutely is a strong word (adverb: with no qualification, restriction, or limitation, totally)...I know Emmitt Smith absolutely rushed for 18,355 career yards and 164 TD's. I know Roger Maris absolutely hit 61 dingers in 1961. But I can't say President Trump absolutely has information in his tax returns he does not want in full view of the world. And neither can you. It's speculation, at best, nothing more.


You may like the idea, or not, that DJT is an eyelash away from being a dictator, but most Americans, and eventually most Republicans don't. Yes...we've seen and heard plenty about this "dictator" word libs love to cavalierly fling about. Liken Mr Trump to Adolph Hitler...Stalin...Pol Pot...is that the kinda dictator you have in mind? A little too strong perhaps? Well...give him time, right. All he needs to do is exterminate several million people and y'all can put his name along side history's most infamous. Too strong still? Well, that word dictator ain't for the fair of heart, ya know.

Mind you...say and think what you wish about "us". But had Clinton won, I scarcely think you would be hearing that sort of vile nonsense from the deplorables (nor see it in the ugly signs we've all witnessed at these "protests").

You know all the DJT whiners, with DJT being the biggest one, would be butchering Hillary if she would have won. See above...I've covered it.

That's the same thing the Republicans did to Obama. Don't pretend y'all "were team players", when Obama was POTUS

Obviously, I cannot speak for the actions of the Republican congress during Obama's two terms....they did what they did, nuff sed.

I, for one, was actually willing to give Obama an opportunity (first term)...he wasn't my choice but I figured Okay, it's in your hands, bud...have at it. Make us proud.

Now we're 8 years hence and the proof is in the pudding. While it's not up to me to write his legacy.....political historians after all have already begun doing that....I do feel there's the possibility (new) things will surface as congressional and independent committees continue begin dig further for the facts per this "Russian connection", wiretapping, Wiki-Leaks, etc that could alter opinions.

Time, as I've said before, will tell the tale per one Hussein Obama and eventually DJT. Originally Posted by themystic

I mentioned "more on the Clintons" in the beginning of my responses. I've not the time to go there now...more on that subject later perhaps.

Thanks Peter my friend. I know Ive got to be climbing the ladder as you favorite liberal. Being Decent to people does not make you a pussy, In fact the reverse happens, people respect you and will follow your lead.

Scared little boys like DJT grow up to be scared little boys. They have to bully people like Rossie O'Donnell. Miss Universe, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, Hillary Clinton, Little Marco, Lying Ted. Low Energy Jeb

Your a lyin little punk Donald. Someone will take you down. Its called Karma Originally Posted by themystic

Friend. You mean nice like hilda beast Clinton was to Bernie ? Yeah so nice. And the DNC was so nice to Bernie. They fucking stoke the super delegates from the Jew. And gave it to the international criminal CUNT Hillary. Oh that is so nice.

I mentioned "more on the Clintons" in the beginning of my responses. I've not the time to go there now...more on that subject later perhaps. Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

PLEASE READ CB REPLY # 297 TO MYSTIC POST. CB I tried to post yours it didnt seem to want to let me, or I was doing something wrong

That was a great reply!. Of course there is a lot we are miles apart on and that is the greatness of America. You addressed every thing with precision, I appreciate that. I know that some of my rethoric and opinions do not constitute facts. Im not the far left liberal in my view and you dont seem to be the far right. I considerate myself more of a moderate liberal. I was a Reagan Democrat, who actually voted for him both times

I loved Bill Clinton and of course voted for him. I loved Obama and voted for him as well
I " liked or tolerated" Hillary. I liked her alot more when she originally ran against Obama.
I bring this up becauce lots of like minded liberals like myself were in a tough spot. We knew that Hillary basically sucked, but we couldnt quite go as left as Bernie. I actually liked Bernie better, but cant see the USA as a Socialist country. We do have aspects of Socialism that Im totally on board with like Social security, welfare, Medicare, etc.

I was shocked that DJT won, I really was. And I have brought up the 3 million popular voter thing but I never thpought Hillary really won. It was Electoral vote from the start. DJT won. Im not going to go as far as to say he won " fair and square", even though you could probably make a great point that he did. You are a very skilled writer and your opinions at least make sense to me.. I dont think there were 3 million illegal votes cast like DJT has speculated on

Heres what Im, and lots of others Ive spoke with, like attracts like, is DJT is such an asshole about everything, ( I know CB calm down, thats just my opinion, and you may love that he is an asshole. Or that , whatever you and I get the point). Hes rude to people, he demeans people, he pisses off the CIA, FBI, Australia?, Republicans, Democrats, women, men, etc, etc. Im not going to go over in detail his sexual, and professional conduct. Mine has been the greatest in every incidence either.

It would be real hard for me to defend Hillary and I wouldnt be surprised if shes wrapped up in 99% of the shit thats happening right now. Its just " ugly" politics. The girl Vivienne who talked about, " Decency isnt politics" thats what a lot of us are riled up about.

Trust me on this one, Im very active in the Dallas Business Community and an out of the closet liberal. I freely express my beleifs as do the people I do business with. It aint easy being a liberal in the Business world in Dallas. I heard 8 years of bullshit over everything that Obama did. Now its DJT turn to catch the heat

I have to express it via the keyboard because for some reason none of the people I work with seem to want to talk about DJT. They get frustrated because even they dont know how to " really" defend him. That sure wasnt the case with Queen Hillary and Obama. Thy did alot of talking

Forgive the spelling , the spell check didnt work either. Must be on my end

CB that was an awesome reponse and I always appreciate someone who stands up for his beliefs, especially when the are at least "searching" for the facts

Who really knows what the f is going happen but I sure would like to know what current odds are on wheather DJT makes 4 years, any way he can make it , are. I would surley bet $ 100K he doesnt last 4 years. Its all a gamble but that is where my bet would be placed

Thanks CB and Ialmost scared to read your Clinton expose :-)

Friend. You mean nice like hilda beast Clinton was to Bernie ? Yeah so nice. And the DNC was so nice to Bernie. They fucking stoke the super delegates from the Jew. And gave it to the international criminal CUNT Hillary. Oh that is so nice. Originally Posted by PeterBota

Damn Peter. I thought we were making progress. I guess not. Oh well.

Im not going to be the President of the Hillary Clinton Fan Club anytime soon. But I think you might need to watch a few other channels besides Fox news. I dont doubt anything you might tell me about how corrupt the Clintons were/are. We are kind of like you DJT lovers. We didnt really give a shit about all those emails, and BS story about Benghazi. She went through 25 years of Rebulican BS. How come the news isnt blowing up with Pences emails?

Now it DJTs turn and his voters. He getting flamed by his own peeps. All those leaks, his peeps also. Do you really think at that level that all of them, including and especially DJT arent " International Criminals"?. Of course the Democrats wernt going to elect a Jewish Socialist.
I do admit I was surprised the Republicans elected a Russian Autocrat

As far as" hilda beast Clinton" "International criminal CUNT? I dont know what a CUNT is. I guess it takes one to know one