Waiting to be proven I am a dumbass, wakeup. Or is it you that has been divulged.

There is a wolf hanging out with a cobra on these boards...ijs (I'm just SCREAMING). Originally Posted by YummyMarie

Care to some some guts and name names?


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Jesus that was weak...

Nobody knew that the two were connected? Is that wtf you are trying to feed me. Ignorance? Your ignorance? YM's ignorance? CD's ignorance? Originally Posted by WTF

Then what is your argument? You started off claiming they were responsible to being outed because they hung out with Marie. Then you shifted to them being responsible because they had all the warning signs they could be outed and ignored them. Now, you're arguing...what?

What other argument do you want to put forward that I can rip to shreds? The person who outs someone else is the only one responsible for outing someone else. Period. End of story. No discussion. Except for the people you don't like...it seems...

Where else you want to take this today?

WTF has continually used the word "responsible"...that's what you failed to address in your response to me. You think that the nine year old girl's dad was responsible for her getting shot because he took her to the speech?

So everyone killed by drunk drivers every year is responsible for their own death because they knew the dangers when they got in the car. Everyone who dies in a plane crash is responsible for their own death because they got in the plane even though they knew one crashed in Indonesia last year. I can keep this up all day...

I didn't think there were two people who played in the stupid pond...but maybe there are...

Have no sympathy for these people if you want. Say they're dumb for getting in a car, or a plane, or going to a speech, or doing their job, but don't say they're responsible for the bad things that happen to them because of the sheer stupidity, or lunacy of others... Originally Posted by Wakeup

I didn't address responsibility because I wasn't discussing it. I was discussing the poor example.

you are making apples to oranges comparisons again. as you modified your post. you are comparing real world everyday risks against high target values when you tried using the President.

as for drunk drivers and their victims I have plenty of sympathy for them. I lost a family member to one. and yes, that family member was partially responsible for getting in the car with the drunk asshole that caused their death. had they called a family member or their spouse to come and get them they might still be with us today. that was their choice though and the rest of us live with it. even the drunk bastard who carries the most responsibility for my family losing a member.

and you're right dh, I looked in the TOS and I didn't see anything about using at your own risk.

Wait...where were all the warning signs about LOTO before he decided to out providers? Where was this imminent danger you speak of? There were none! He lost his damn mind when Alyssa saw a target of opportunity and fed him information about them. How does that make them responsible for being outed? What were the aware of, and then recklessly disregarded, that makes them responsible? Originally Posted by Wakeup

all that said, at least you make sense here. even though you directly contradict the poor example you seem chapped about being pointed out. when it comes to the President of the United States of America or the ex-Bin Laden, there is plenty of warning signs and a well known imminent danger. you hang out with such characters you are taking on responsibility for that choice.

hell, you think if I went and hung out in 5th ward or 3rd ward dressed to the nines walking around by myself I'm not responsible if I get mugged? when I'm aware of the reputation such areas have? I've even gotten lost in 3rd ward back in the HS days (and at a time I had no clue of the place) and had HPD suggest me and my car full of friends leave right now. why would they have suggested that if we weren't doing anything wrong and weren't responsible for any wrong doings?

Let me explain it to you once again. CD tried to blame others for her outing, in a round about way, me. . I have consistently said that it is between her and her outer. How much blame you want to assign to each CD and her outer is up to each individual but it god damn sure isn't anyone else's fault.


Originally Posted by WTF

Then say this and shut the fuck up! When you start talking about who is responsible for it, and assigning blame to them, you end up looking like a fucking lunatic...

The point is, no one on this board should be afraid to speak their mind for fear of being outed. So I will speak, and others will/may do as they wish. Yes, I am in fact preaching about principles on a SHMB. I haven't crossed any lines. If there were lines being crossed, they would be the arbitrary lines in a crazy hooktard and fucktard's heads. If I get outed for warning others, we'll all know who it was, and we can all move on...until the next BSC person comes out of the woodworks... Originally Posted by YummyMarie

That's the fucking spirit!

Two thumbs up. I have no problem giving props when you take responsibility for your actions. I have been in that position and know exactly how you feel. What I will not stand for is you and CD trying to blame others (namely me) for your situation.

I wish you luck. I hope no one is outed. Maybe some truce can be achieved. IDK and I do know have spent way to much time on this matter.

Care to some some guts and name names?
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Who is doing the goading now? You and everyone with any level of intelligence knows the answer to who is whom.

hell, you think if I went and hung out in 5th ward or 3rd ward dressed to the nines walking around by myself I'm not responsible if I get mugged? when I'm aware of the reputation such areas have? I've even gotten lost in 3rd ward back in the HS days (and at a time I had no clue of the place) and had HPD suggest me and my car full of friends leave right now. why would they have suggested that if we weren't doing anything wrong and weren't responsible for any wrong doings? Originally Posted by JustMeCLTXGG

No...you wouldn't be responsible, in any way, for what happens to you in Third Ward because of the way you dressed.

Do you also believe that some women are responsible for being raped because of they way they dress?

Then say this and shut the fuck up! When you start talking about who is responsible for it, and assigning blame to them, you end up looking like a fucking lunatic... Originally Posted by Wakeup

And you look like you are having trouble with the written word. What I said was How much blame you want to assign to each CD and her outer is up to each individual.
So we differ on the blame, you think it 100% is on the outer and I disagree. That does not make me an idiot. It does make you an asshole imho for not being able to agree to disagree. You are not God in all matters in Hookerville. I have no problem with you thinking it is all one persons fault. Seems more gray to me.

Let me explain it to you once again. CD tried to blame others for her outing, in a round about way, me. . I have consistently said that it is between her and her outer. How much blame you want to assign to each CD and her outer is up to each individual but it god damn sure isn't anyone else's fault.


Originally Posted by WTF

No...you wouldn't be responsible, in any way, for what happens to you in Third Ward because of the way you dressed.

Do you also believe that some women are responsible for being raped because of they way they dress? Originally Posted by Wakeup

I'm reminded of a Dave Chappell bit.

A lady gets pissed because a man solicits her for sex because she is dressed like a Hooker. He responds that if he was dressed as a Cop and she came up and called him Officer she might then understand his confusion.

Things aren't so black and white wu , at least not for me.

Who is doing the goading now? You and everyone with any level of intelligence knows the answer to who is whom. Originally Posted by YummyMarie

Well I'm rather a sensitive soul and would like you to clarify who is whom so that some with less intelligence may not be fooled into thinking you are speaking of me.

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No...you wouldn't be responsible, in any way, for what happens to you in Third Ward because of the way you dressed.

Do you also believe that some women are responsible for being raped because of they way they dress? Originally Posted by Wakeup

again, apples to oranges trying to make yourself the winner.

that is me intentionally going to a known high crime area (asking for trouble basically) vs. a woman who could be anywhere just trying to be sexy or enjoying her self confidence.

if you purposely on your own went to say, Somalia and they killed you, I'd say you share in that responsibilty. if you purposely went to WTF's crib and he kicked your ass I'd say you're partially responsible. you already addressed this in being aware of the dangers. if you are oblivious to any dangers then no you are in no way responsible. sure a woman might be aware there is some low lifes out in the world but her walking the mall or going to a club and be followed is not the samething. the world is not black and white but we see in color so plenty of things are still clear and obvious.

let's take your drunk driver example, are you saying anyone should be able to jump in the car with a drunk driver and expect that driver to get them home with no expectations? wasn't their fault since they weren't driving right? I know you meant people in the other cars but you ignored the people who get in the car with them.

That's the fucking spirit!

Two thumbs up. I have no problem giving props when you take responsibility for your actions. I have been in that position and know exactly how you feel. What I will not stand for is you and CD trying to blame others (namely me) for your situation.

I wish you luck. I hope no one is outed. Maybe some truce can be achieved. IDK and I do know have spent way to much time on this matter. Originally Posted by WTF

Where did CD and YM blame you?

Attach the quote, please.

What I said was How much blame you want to assign to each CD and her outer is up to each individual. Originally Posted by WTF

You posted that AFTER we started this discussion, in an attempt to mitigate the damages. You never said that if CD and LOTO want to discuss how much each other is to blame, fine. You said that CD is responsible for LOTO outing her.

I have no problem with people saying that responsibility can be spread around in certain circumstances, this isn't one of them...and all of your arguments supporting her sharing any part of the responsibility for being outed are idiotic, at best, and have all been thoroughly shredded...

See the difference? State an abstract, sure, go ahead. Start actually assigning responsibility to her in this case, doomed...

CD would have had to of had a crystal ball with the fore knowledge that LOTO was in AlyssaXOXO's pocket to make that assumption. The posting history was not there. It did not become clear until he outed real world info.

You posted that AFTER we started this discussion, in an attempt to mitigate the damages.

See the difference? State an abstract, sure, go ahead. Start actually assigning responsibility to her in this case, doomed... Originally Posted by Wakeup

You have no idea why I have done something.

Lol Doomed by wu on a hooker board. OK if you say so. We disagree. ...but you can claim victory all you want.