Nope. I'm privy to nothing, I was just going down the list. I could ask the same about Hannah Hearte, or Allison (who btw has not come to a gentlemans defense). BP is #1 on the list, so I started with her.
The Chess players got people they despise , beating the shit outta each other. Brilliant boys. LD if you were knowingly part of that move, my hat is off to you. You played them both crackerjack-a-lacka
Originally Posted by WTF
All isn't lost between blowpop and Olivia. I do know one subject that those two and I fully agree on..............but I ain't saying. Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHNWhy not?
. Mods, I hope you pin this thread if and when it ever dies down as the definition of SOMB drama! 
P4P at socials... Noooo... Nooo...nooo... None I organized were ever, ahem, "interrupted" by outside forces. And I never paid anyone in currency other than drinks. If you're a woman attending any social, remember its a look, maybe touch, but hey no play if you're looking for support with the Internet bill.Do you remember when I tried to talk you into inviting a TS to try to mix in with the other ladies and see who would hit on her/him?
So far this thread has proved nothing except how far hobby forums have deteriorated over the years. Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHNTouche`
crystal clear here? There is no p4p at socials. This drunk dumb ass bitch sounds like the grifter to me. Crying about not getting paid for something she was not suppossed to be doing. When you get 'drunk' as Olivia has said....you lose all credibility. If she was not drunk, she has shitty business skills, giving a god damn blowjob at a social where none should have been done for pay! What fucking part of that are you and Olivia having trouble with? Originally Posted by WTF
It's a non-issue She was not drunck according to the one who engaged her.
The provider had been drinking, but I wouldn't characterize her as drunk. She was being flirty, but certainly not stumbling, falling down, or not in possession of her faculties. Originally Posted by blowpop
You give the benefit of the doubt to some drunk bitch that didn't have the good business sense to stay sober at a mix and mingle. We are not talking about rape, we are talking about not getting paid when you she thought she would be. Quit mixing laws to suit your argument. If blowpop took advantage of a drunk bitch and beat her out of some money, he is an asshole for doing so but don't come on here defending the dumb drunk bitch. And I sure as fuc am taking anything a drunk says with a grain of salt. One thing you might want to think about ... nothing honorable in my book by being unethical to try and prove another is unethical. Originally Posted by WTFSo in your argument above, you're suggesting that she understood she would be paid for her efforts, correct? Following that train of thought, let's take out all of the incorrect drunck references and what have we got?
LMAOWhere do I even begin? (I'll START with CAPITALIZING words for EMPHASIS)
Curiosity got the better of me, so I called BlowPop to find out who the provider was that OH is claiming was a victim. He told me and I laughed so hard, I was chocking and had to hang up. (Chocking? You working on a boat at the time? that's pretty random..)
I am still LMFAO.
I knew her as SM, not MM.
I had MANY talks with her about her "SCAM" at the socials.
She would take 2-3-4 guys upstairs and offer a FREE sample of her talents. Then after the free sample she would suggest she and the guy go off for a session. IF he declined she would ask for $40-50 for her "free sample". Many of the guys would acquiese and pay her something; many would not.
I had tons of guys "confess" that they actually paid her even though the rules of the social were no p4p.
I spoke with her many many times about this. Her responses varied. Sometimes she would pretend she didn't know the rules; sometimes she would appologise....again; sometimes she would deny she did it.
There were several socials where she didn't get to come b/c of her continuing practice of asking for p4p at the socials.
So this provider VICTIM was hardly a victim.
I am still LMFAO that BP is being tageted as someone who didn't pay her for her free sample.
DAMN, there are many many guys out there who had this experience - come on guys, FESS up!
TFF Originally Posted by CivilDisBarrister
Second best post in the whole fucking thread!
First, the drunck claim...
It's a non-issue She was not drunck according to the one who engaged her.
That said...
So in your argument above, you're suggesting that she understood she would be paid for her efforts, correct? Following that train of thought, let's take out all of the incorrect drunck references and what have we got?
A "dumb bitch" who was expecting to get paid.
Does that sound about right?
"No P4P at the socials!!"
The hell you say! *especially* at the two-story venue.
"No P4P!" winck-winck, nudge-nudge... give me a fucking break!
P4P happened there constantly and continually. The "No P4P" clause had to be included into the rules to save the promoters collective asses, should legal issues arise. But to believe that no P4P went on is extremely naive...to the point of ricockulously, unbelievably, and stupidly, naive.
Hell, you've even got one of the former promoters, CDB admitting that P4P went on and even allowed this alleged, habitual-repeat offender to return...TFF!
Lets look at his ridicularity for a minute, shall we?
Where do I even begin? (I'll START with CAPITALIZING words for EMPHASIS)
First, Exactly HOW many socials did YOU head-up, because I can't remember H-town having all that many?
And even if YOU did head-up all 2 or 3 or hell, let's shoot for the moon and say, 4, H-town socials and SHE was not invited to "SEVERAL", (how many is "SEVERAL" incidentally??), because of her alleged, continual and habitual illegal activities, why would YOU, as a responsible organizer/promoter of such an event, allow someone, who is such a problem-child, the privilege to return?
--And if there was No P4P allowed, as you're claiming, what sort of reprimand did these alleged "TONS of confessors" receive?
Rules are rules, am I correct? and since you're one of the promoters, what punishment was handed-out to those who broke this particular rule.
So now that you've admitted that you were aware that there was P4P going-on at these events, are you seriously going to try and blow smoke up our collective asses and say that had you heard that such egregious violations (P4P) were taking place, on your watch, that you would have immediately taken action?
Please. For the love of Tebow, please tell us that is precisely what you would have done; because it would be a testament to your powers of persuasion to convince even a single one of us that you would have had the testicular fortitude to do something, hell, anything, about it.
Please, take this opportunity to change the opinion I've had for you for quite some time now. That opinion being, I thinck you're plumb full of shit and it's dribbling out of that same hole.
Yes, it's a tall order but I'm offering you the opportunity...so please, knock yourself out.
Back to WTF; Yes, they say there's not "supposed to be" any P4P at these events. But it was really nothing more than a disclaimer to cover their ass. I've been to many, of these shin-digs at the 2-story venue and it was just one of those understood things that people knew but really didn't ever talk about...but to believe that rule was carried out to the letter? Please, give me a fucking break. You just heard from one of the promotors...
And for someone to use the, "What? There's NO P4P at these events. It's against the rules", as an excuse *AFTER* receiving a service, knowing that she was expecting to be compensated is pure dee chickenshit.
Blowpop, thancks for clarifying. but I've just got to say that I have a tough time believing that "samples" are ever given, much less given so freely. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but anytime I've ever 'engaged' and dropped trou, (though never at any of the particular venues), I've always paid the ante. I don't know whether that's the gentlemanly thing to do, I just thinck it's the right thing to do.
But that's just my nsho/two copperheads.
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First, the drunck claim... Somebody said she was drunk. Not the best of marketing skills if you ask me. If she wasn't drunk , she was a dumbass. Either way, I do not defend either drunkeness or dumbassness. I've been both and took my lumps and not bitched about how somebody took advantage of me. I chalk that shit up to lesson learned. You have to take responsibility for your own mistakes in the business. Jailhouse is littered with dumb hookers.It is pure dee chicken shit for a lady to give a blowjob and afterwards discuss price. Sounds like a fucking scam to me. If price has not been discussed before said blowjob (not a sample bj) then it could be taken as a free bj and pure dee dumb ass on her part to come crying about the SOB who didn't pay her for a blowjob in which there was no price discussed.
Back to WTF; Yes, they say there's not "supposed to be" any P4P at these events. But it was really nothing more than a disclaimer to cover their ass. I've been to many, of these shin-digs at the 2-story venue and it was just one of those understood things that people knew but really didn't ever talk about...but to believe that rule was carried out to the letter? Please, give me a fucking break. You just heard from one of the promotors...
And for someone to use the, "What? There's NO P4P at these events. It's against the rules", as an excuse *AFTER* receiving a service, knowing that she was expecting to be compensated is pure dee chickenshit.
Originally Posted by SofaKingFun
I was beginning to thinck that I went to different socials than the rest of you retards.........ijs Originally Posted by dearhunterEvery time I've read posts about a social I had attended, I wondered that. According to the posts after these socials everybody was charming and Beauty Queens! Come to find out there are drunk fat scammers both hooktard and fuctards!
Originally Posted by lostincypress