Mass Shooting In Orlando Florida Night Club.

Isn't there still an airliner hiding under palm fronds out there?

Who said I was "convinced"?

Or are you just creating a "line in the sand" to establish a base line for an argument you are about to make.

At the moment, the last live interviews broadcast of persons inside the club have described the same person (some recognized him apparently) and at the moment there is only one shooter identified by LE who were exchanging shots with him inside of the club.

"Crime scene photos" with a bunch of bodies lying around won't help you with your multiple shooter theory or your "staged" shooting theory.

Science will: ballistics, finger/hand prints, DNA, physics, chemical analysis.

Based upon the interviews I've heard from victims, most of the hits were pass-throughs, and hopefully some rounds were recovered from bodies or live victims in good enough condition to do some comparisons with the weapons recovered at the scene .... more science.

With all due respect if you base your "crime scene" forensics on TV you will think that you can look at an entry wound and tell it's a "9mm" (a popular response on TV ... "nine mill"!) .... when the victim still has on his/her shirt!

With the "fast food" 60 minute TV mentality swirling around 24/7 news casts these days they lack the appetite for careful, scientific examination of evidence before leaping to conclusions they need for scoops and headlines ... which is an excellent reason they GET IT WRONG so many times and have to lamely try to explain how they were really correct, even though they weren't.

Sound familiar?

As to "the law" ... it is based upon "due process" and "search and seizure" principles.

From the base up the next level has to do with evidentiary rules to assure usefulness of the information gathered, and then compliance with generally accepted procedures for gathering and documenting the collection, transmittal, and processing of the information and "things" collected, on and off the scene.....and a part of that process is assuring the areas of collection are not contaminated or disturbed more than is necessary to remove live victims or participants to assure they survive (or attempt to treat them to that end.) Each step is meticulously documented by the person performing the task. Originally Posted by LexusLover

You're not convinced? Well nobody should be.


Jim

You're not convinced? Well nobody should be. Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

That's what I said. Particularly someone speculating on a hooker board.

And to be specific .... Nobody should be convinced there was more than one shooter.

And if there is some question about it, it should be explored in the process of investigating the incident, but based upon the evidence gathered at the scene and "elsewhere" (including other witnesses) and not "crime scene photos" of dead and wounded lying around.

Isn't there still an airliner hiding under palm fronds out there? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

who cares? i'm more concerned about this ... opps!

Hillary’s State Department Killed Investigation Of Omar Mateen’s Mosque

June 14, 2016 by Jack Knox 5 Comments

http://downstreampolitics.com/2016/0...ateens-mosque/

The Obama Administration and candidate Clinton are peddling the idea that Omar Mateen was a lone gunmen radicalized by videos he saw on the internet. Does that sound familiar at all? It’s awfully similar to the bogus story Clinton and Obama told about the “spontaneous protest” in Benghazi that was supposedly in response to an “insulting” video on YouTube. You know, because everyone attends a “spontaneous protest” with mortars and shells. Both stories are lies.


It turns out that there was an active investigation related to the Islamic Center of Ft. Pierce, Omar Mateen’s mosque, inside the Department of Homeland Security that was shut down at the behest of Hillary Clinton’s State Department. So says retired DHS officer and whistleblower, Philip Haney who was working on the investigation.

As a member of one of the National Targeting Center’s advanced units, Haney helped develop a case in 2011 on a worldwide Islamic movement known as Tablighi Jamaat, as he recounts in his new book “See Something, Say Nothing: A Homeland Security Officer Exposes the Government’s Submission to Jihad.” Within a few months, the case drew the “concern” of the State Department and the DHS’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Office because the Obama administration believed it unfairly singled out Muslims. The intelligence, however, had been used to connect members of the movement to several terrorist organizations and financing at the highest levels, including for Hamas and al-Qaida.

In the immediate aftermath of the Orlando massacre, Haney has found that the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, Florida, is part of a network in the United States that originated in the Indian subcontinent.

The Fort Pierce mosque’s website features a link that demonstrates its relationship to the Shariah Board of America, a division of the Rahmat-e-Alam Foundation, which operates the Darul Uloom Chicago madrassa.

The madrassa is closely affiliated with the Institute of Islamic Education, which was a major component of Haney’s Tablighi Jamaat case.


Along with the State Department’s and Department of Homeland Security’s quashing of the case in June 2012, the administration subsequently ordered the deletion of an additional 67 records related to a report on the Institute of Islamic Education.


Haney explained that this kind of information comprises the “dots” that counter-terrorism analysts connect to form cases that are used to identify potential terrorist threats.


More here.

Mateen’s mosque was also the mosque of the first American to kill himself and others in a suicide bombing. That was 22 year old Mohammad Abusalha in 2014. The FBI determined during an investigation of Mateen that he and Abusalha knew each other but that it wasn’t of any consequence. As of today, they are sticking with that theory. Amazing.


So why would Hillary shut down this investigation? Political correctness? Bad multicultural ideology? Incompetence? Was she trying to curry favor with the muslim community in hopes of securing their support – and money – in advance of her Presidential bid? It’s probably some combination of all of these.


But let’s remember that the Clinton Foundation has received tens of millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia and other benefactors in the muslim world. Let’s also remember that according to the Petra News Agency, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman claims the Saudis have provided 20% of Clinton’s campaign funding. Follow the money.


Whatever the reasons – incompetence, bad ideology, payoffs, or pandering for votes – it’s clear the Hillary Clinton does not have the safety and security of this country at heart. She is what she has always been – dishonest, self-seeking, and dangerous and she has no business in the White House.


now go ahead pig and yell Trump's a racist for saying mosques should be monitored. they were being monitored, except guess who stopped it? WHO???

Obaminable and Hillarious-No-More: "It's because of videos, not guns!"

And now they will attempt to "control videos" in violation of the FIRST AMENDMENT!