Connecticut Elementary School.

Yes, just like that. But I don't think people are trying to ban Obama Phones. Originally Posted by GP

Oh really now.

its a Bush Phone. yup use the wrong term over and over it becomes fact.

no need to ban them. after killing or loosing 2 or 3. they are not given another.

I use to shoot "Hunters Pistol". And was range master at the time. I started with single action revolvers. Went semi-auto, many preloaded clips works out better.

I did learn something from here.

I always thought the strongest fervor for guns of unlimited firepower - however irrational - would come from those who want to protect themselves from the tyrannical government (which has tanks and nuclear missiles). I did not expect such strong passion from "recreational" users who want to have access to the latest "technology" - no matter how massively lethal such hi-tech "toys" are when used as killing machines.

I did learn something from here.

I always thought the strongest fervor for guns of unlimited firepower - however irrational - would come from those who want to protect themselves from the tyrannical government (which has tanks and nuclear missiles). I did not expect such strong passion from "recreational" users who want to have access to the latest "technology" - no matter how massively lethal such hi-tech "toys" are when used as killing machines. Originally Posted by jackfengshui

Your bias (and unfair terminology) is shining through. killing machines BAH. They are only killing machines in the hands of people with the intent to kill. Why not go to the core of the problem and ban people with the intent to kill?

Your bias (and unfair terminology) is shining through. killing machines BAH. They are only killing machines in the hands of people with the intent to kill. Originally Posted by GP

I was merely stating the fact that this favorite "toy" to some is a "killing machine" to others. You seem to agree.

Why not go to the core of the problem and ban people with the intent to kill? Originally Posted by GP

Please enlighten us on how you would "ban people with the intent to kill".

gp u know 4 teachers, great, i know 25 that said they are not comfortable holding guns or around guns.

were not going to arm teachers, thats insanity,
heres my question i already know the answer.
how many rounds can someone get off with the bushmaster that was used in this massacare?
in a minute??

any guess.
please indulge.

And yes gp, the parents burying thier kids will have thier say, and change is good, if youre an old man then u dont like change, but change is good.
and we will change from this.
id ban all guns if it was up to me, but thats not gonna happen.
but u can look at england and what they did and thier cops dont carry guns, and thier crime rate is low.
so well learn and well move on.
but yes the nra is already losing 55 percent say to ban the bushmaster and all mag rounds of 10 or more.
so nra will lose.
just as romney lost when u said he would win.
live and learn.

I was merely stating the fact that this favorite "toy" to some is a "killing machine" to others. You seem to agree. Originally Posted by jackfengshui

Not even close. ANYONE who considers them a toy should be no where near them!

Please enlighten us on how you would "ban people with the intent to kill". Originally Posted by jackfengshui

I don't know how anyone would do that. It was said to make a point. Since you can't ban people, then I suppose your logic would dictate going after the next easiest thing. That is what this is all about anyway, isn't it? Instead of getting to the real crux of the problem, let's just blindly ban guns. How about getting rid of some of the stupid laws on the books, enforcing the good laws and maybe do a better job of mental health care in this country. Yep, that would be the hard way to go about it, but I am up for the task. How about you?

gp why do u think mental health at anything to do with this crime??
HE was smart enough to destory his computer hard drive and leave nothing left behind for cops.
He was smart enough to pick on a school with no men teachers or admin in it.
He was smart enough to wear amror and use a weapon strong enough to shoot through the door at the front of the buildiing by shooting mutliple rounds of 60 to get in according the reports.
He had loads of ammo up to 1000 rounds divided by 30 dont know my math is bad lol but al lot.
He was smart enough to have his pistol to shoot himself in the head when the cops got there in the hallway before he would of been gunned down or surrended.
Theres no evidence that he was mentally ill as of yet.

But we know he had weapons and ammo that he SHOULD NOT OF HAD ACCESS TO.
tHEY werent regiestered is in name were they??
just sayin
ban em all baby

gp, change is good, youll learn from it one day.

gp u know 4 teachers, great, i know 25 that said they are not comfortable holding guns or around guns. Originally Posted by bjwstw

The number of teachers either of us know is irrelevant. Plus, most (not all) teachers are union members, bleeding heart liberals and are brainwashed into thinking guns are bad.

were not going to arm teachers, thats insanity, Originally Posted by bjwstw

In my book, it is not the best option either, but it is always an option.

heres my question i already know the answer.
how many rounds can someone get off with the bushmaster that was used in this massacare?
in a minute??

any guess.
please indulge. Originally Posted by bjwstw

I have no clue. I do not own a bushmaster like the one used. Since you are such a sage on this topic, why don't you enlighten us. I bet the answer you give is not complete though, and I promise you I will find all of the holes in it.

And yes gp, the parents burying thier kids will have thier say, and change is good, if youre an old man then u dont like change, but change is good.
and we will change from this. Originally Posted by bjwstw

You are welcome to your opinion as is everyone else, but please do not go around stating your opinion as if it were fact. You sir are not the all knowing expert on whether or not change is good.

id ban all guns if it was up to me, but thats not gonna happen. Originally Posted by bjwstw

You are correct on this

but u can look at england and what they did and thier cops dont carry guns, and thier crime rate is low.
so well learn and well move on. Originally Posted by bjwstw

Baloney! You need to go and recheck your facts, because you are dead wrong. Their gun crime rate increaed, then decreased but their violent crime rate increased across the board.

but yes the nra is already losing 55 percent say to ban the bushmaster and all mag rounds of 10 or more.
so nra will lose. Originally Posted by bjwstw

Would love to see where you got your (ahem) "facts" on this statement. I call BS.

just as romney lost when u said he would win.
live and learn. Originally Posted by bjwstw

I never said Romney would win and what in the world does that have to do with this?

Please go check your facts, or don't. It's totally upto you. But if you enjoy arguing a subject, you should at least be somewhat informed on it, and that does not mean just reading recent headlines. I have been actively involved with this topics for decades.

parrot learned some new lines I see. good birdie. dos Polly want a cracker???


Utah teachers can and do after taking a class, carry at schools. Willing taking many risks to save others.

gp go google.
the poll was out today on cnn and in usa today

gp you brought up how many teachers u knew, not me
i responded.
check ur facts, buddy, cnn did a big show about it the other night had all the crime rates and england DOES NOT HAVE THE GUN DEATHS THAT WE HAVE ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE, DEAL WITH IT>
we move on now.
i got a double date, no guns needed.
osd, u might smell tonight, lol.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/poll...t-weapons-ban/


sorry man i was wrong, 62 percent are for it, lol.
im not gonna do all ur work, go on line and research.

i know how u react to polls lol but maybe youll learn from the election that your side doesnt have the pulse of the nation.
plan c maybe??