Who Killed John F Kennedy?

Damn , its like I woke up after a 47 year nap! Originally Posted by WTF

I hope you didn't have a companion on the clock when you took your 47 year nap. Even at 1963 prices, that would be a hell of an envelope

The most convincing evidence was the back of his head flying off to the rear. He was hit from a low position from the front - apparently from the drainage opening in the curb. The most amazing thing about it all, is how many people will believe their 'government' when they say black is white, and up is down, just because they are the "officials".

No Cubans, No CIA. My old friend from south Texas swears that LBJ (who got Kennedy elected) played a big part in it, along with the Houston Browns (aka Brown & Root) major government contractor during vietnam war - best motive I've heard among the conspiracy theories. Coincidentally, who bought Brown & Root? Halliburton. All one big conspiracy.

The most convincing evidence was the back of his head flying off to the rear. He was hit from a low position from the front - apparently from the drainage opening in the curb. The most amazing thing about it all, is how many people will believe their 'government' when they say black is white, and up is down, just because they are the "officials". Originally Posted by hesitantly

"Back and to the left" is difficult to reconcile with a one shooter theory. I've seen tests where gourds were shot, even human skulls and sometimes they moved in the direction of where the bullet came from. It's not very convincing evidence though.
The only thing I can think of is that it is a muscle reaction that causes that movement and not the impact of the bullet. Still not convincing but it's all I got.

No Cubans, No CIA. My old friend from south Texas swears that LBJ (who got Kennedy elected) played a big part in it, along with the Houston Browns (aka Brown & Root) major government contractor during vietnam war - best motive I've heard among the conspiracy theories. Coincidentally, who bought Brown & Root? Halliburton. All one big conspiracy. Originally Posted by dyb156

Aha! I knew it had to be Bush's fault.

I think it was Victoria Pricniple. Wait.. That is who shot JR. Sorry, My bad. Originally Posted by Txn5inThick

I thought it was Crosby's kid.

So many trees have died on this one, and so many electrons continue to be rearranged.

The events surrounding the assassination are a confused jumble, just like all the rest of history. The Warren Report is indeed a rush job and has bunches of flaws. But 45+ years of intense and extensive investigation by all sorts of folks have not yielded compelling (defined as 'tested and accepted by substantial numbers of disinterested parties') evidence that beyond a reasonable doubt there was a second shooter, that Oswald could not have done the deed, and that he was an agent/dupe of larger forces. There are lots of intriguing loose ends, especially about the third point, and personally I'd not be surprised if eventually something emerged.

Oliver Stone's film is an adsorbing concoction, but as historical analysis it's junk.

Willen - I agree with you.

This event is just another one where we all unequivocally KNOW that the story we were told is BULLSHIT - but we will probably never know the truth.

We can call it a conspiracy or whatever we what, but it is just another example of having one set of rules/laws for the the people in power and a very different set for us little people.

Willen - I agree with you.

This event is just another one where we all unequivocally KNOW that the story we were told is BULLSHIT - but we will probably never know the truth.

We can call it a conspiracy or whatever we what, but it is just another example of having one set of rules/laws for the the people in power and a very different set for us little people. Originally Posted by CivilBarrister

For the most part, WORD!

There were many Army SharpShooters using the same weapon TRY to replicate the shotting and it was impossible for any of them to get off the 3 shots in the amount of time of the actual shooting. Originally Posted by CivilBarrister

How many where left handed and used the same weapon? none! Lee was a lefty! Ohh and a Marine! He practiced too! Ohh and they sucked too!

Really 1.5 seconds a round isn't a challenge to a trained rifleman. Remember the first round is chambered and ready to go, you send it, start the clock, rack it, send it (second shot), rack it, send it (third shot) stop the clock. The clock starts on the first shot, so it a 2.2 second split. This is a borderline joke for any real rifleman. Say "One thousand and one and two an.." and that's the split time, not really that hard. CBS had no issue recreating the shots either. They aired the shots on national tv.

Also, kinda odd that Oswald was shot within a few minutes by Ruby who was then immediately shot. Originally Posted by CivilBarrister

You mean TWO DAYS after Lee Oswald was arrested for the murder of JFK? And after the shooting of a Dallas police officer. DPD was moving him when Ruby shot him, remember that?

To date the best review of the Warren report was by CBS that aired in 67, here are the outlines of the reports. None of the consperciy theorys of the day were found to have any credence. They tested all of them.

The most serious consperency theroy came about in the 70's House Select Commitee on Assassinations and the conclusion of that debacle has been refuted scientifically and by the principle participant, the motor cycle cop who's mic was miced up. The ass hat in charge of that investigation arbitrarily placed him where he was not and concluded there was a 4th shot based what is knowned as fictitious placement of him during the assassination. Dont you find it funny that the cop in question would never have never been called to testify before congress before they made a finding? The cop even told this tool he wasn't at this fictitious location during the shooting. Why not let him testify? Why not put it in the public record? It's always easer to belive in the fanciful than the harsh reality that a single communist nut job can kill our president, that's why. That is the sad reality.

I could get into how JFK's geopolitical view was a total 180 of the Oliver Stone revisionist give me money horse *#$@ theory, but who cares, the domino theory could have never come form JFK, he just loved commies! Hmm in the 63 interview with David Brinkely he told America he believed in the "so called domino theory." Ahh a commie fighter through and through. China can't get too big me must fight them on the undetermined lands in SE Asia! That was pretty much the interview. Look it up for yourself if you doubt history.

Hay CB I know I quoted you here and honestly this subject pisses me off but I really am just using your post to make some very real points that nobody has made which is a sad issue to me. This is hard history that has been hashed over and over and over and over. I hope you don't take this as a direct attack towards you cause that is not my aim at all.

I did it!

Originally Posted by Tiffany Cums

Mystery Solved!

Now, would you please explain what you did with Elvis? Oh, and what's the deal with Bigfoot and those pesky aliens?

Ironically whatever people believe based on some fictional holy wood based terminal ballistics is easily discounted based on the work by a Noble decorated Physicists work presented here. Yes it's just a figment of your imagination.

Yes we can delve deeper if you want too, but really does anyone want to? No this isn't the only non movie going explanation of the "back and to the left" denial! Plenty of people have dicounted this straw man, like all the forensics pathologist on the HSCA. I won't tell anybody the typical lazy forensic patholigist opinion till Dr Alvarez' thesis is relieved. But their are other opinions based on massive trauma to the CNS system and involuntary reactions.


Yes I know charlatans are always published in pear review journals! Please let us know! (massive BSing here)

Look it up for yourself! Really if you care.

"A Physicist Examines the Kennedy Assassination Film"

crazy huh?

Bobby did it so he could get into Jackie's pants

Ironically whatever people believe based on some fictional holy wood based terminal ballistics is easily discounted based on the work by a Noble decorated Physicists work presented here. Originally Posted by ness

This argument carries more weight if you actually spell "Nobel" correctly.