Is the Pittsburgh scene done?<<,moved from reviews

Jinny isnt entirely wrong, the guys in general are a big part of why TOS and the scene in general is as bad as it is. While Im not excusing the Local 250 from their proven harrassment of new whores the guys who tell them repeatedly they should raise their rates are a bigger part of why they do. And anytime a good new one does come around its less than 2 weeks before she has multiple stalkers and and is already so tired of getting messages about how she should give free appointments for good reviews or to avoid bad ones, etc that her attitude goes to shit. I have read the PMs these fucktards send to the girls, I would want to take up extra cirricular activities too if I had to deal with it.

Thats besides all the inherent problems that whores have to begin with... Originally Posted by AmishGangster

I think you should take it upon yourself to rebuild the Millvale hobby scene. You're just the guy who can pull it off!

Guess we are still in the Obama mindset where everything is reversed lol.

Stig, please accept my personal apology for making the whores in Pittsburgh too fat. Also, I'm really sorry that I turned them into addicts. And finally, I'm sorry for everything I have done to give them a bad attitude.

I only hope the I an be forgiven. Originally Posted by sjomonty

Fuck! I knew it was you. I fucking knew it!

What the fuck does that even mean???? Originally Posted by sjomonty

It means this.

If you "Gentlemen" would remember how it once was pre-internet days and appreciate the advances that do provide you with your internet hobby, you would see that some of us have realized there are many other ways to meet gentlemen than just these escort boards full of "Like minded individuals" with poor attitudes and the constant bitching and moaning about what is and isn't worth your time and money.

Along with the desire some of you have to find out personal info, connect Facebook dots and then blab it all out here.


I will say it once again as I have said many many times.
The best clients really don't post shit on the board except and occasional comment or review.

There are far more women doing this now than ever was because it's becoming more acceptable such as in Europe and Canada yet you guys are here complaining about a drought in the local scene.
(Some of you, not all)

Someone is doing this thing the wrong way.

I will say it once again as I have said many many times.
The best clients really don't post shit on the board except and occasional comment or review.

There are far more women doing this now than ever was because it's becoming more acceptable such as in Europe and Canada yet you guys are here complaining about a drought in the local scene.
(Some of you, not all)

Someone is doing this thing the wrong way. Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

I don't know Jinny - I am pretty tech and social media savvy - I am not seeing this. I am not sure where you are seeing these new sources and influx of women?

Sexymaid, in part you are right , but for a while it was a great site at first with a lot of potential. But now you email a mod or admin with a issue and you never hear anything back.
Some of my issues with the site is lack of information and pictures.if they changed the rule about ladies posting pics and set up a way to search by town or by zip code it would help a lot. It is easier now to search backpage then indys.
I joined indys back when it was just a pic site.then was a green square for a long time , then they changed the rules on green square. Wanted $ for something that free and you got nothing extra.

Sexymaid, in part you are right , but for a while it was a great site at first with a lot of potential. But now you email a mod or admin with a issue and you never hear anything back.
Some of my issues with the site is lack of information and pictures.if they changed the rule about ladies posting pics and set up a way to search by town or by zip code it would help a lot. It is easier now to search backpage then indys.
I joined indys back when it was just a pic site.then was a green square for a long time , then they changed the rules on green square. Wanted $ for something that free and you got nothing extra. Originally Posted by popeye1718

Indys has no interest in helping you out. Its not about mongers its about la Pimp and his girls and other activities.
The only place Indys has a foot hold is Pittsburgh and its only because the escorting scene in Pittsburgh is not very good and most of la pimps girls carry a spare tire around the waist and pushing towards the half century mark. Now and then a few hoodrats join to cash in on johns willing to pay what they want.

Indys has no interest in helping you out. Its not about mongers its about la Pimp and his girls and other activities.
The only place Indys has a foot hold is Pittsburgh and its only because the escorting scene in Pittsburgh is not very good and most of la pimps girls carry a spare tire around the waist and pushing towards the half century mark. Now and then a few hoodrats join to cash in on johns willing to pay what they want. Originally Posted by loneshark

I'm don't think he's a pimp. You can make an aurgument he's an asshole.

Jinny isnt entirely wrong, the guys in general are a big part of why TOS and the scene in general is as bad as it is. While Im not excusing the Local 250 from their proven harrassment of new whores the guys who tell them repeatedly they should raise their rates are a bigger part of why they do. And anytime a good new one does come around its less than 2 weeks before she has multiple stalkers and and is already so tired of getting messages about how she should give free appointments for good reviews or to avoid bad ones, etc that her attitude goes to shit. I have read the PMs these fucktards send to the girls, I would want to take up extra cirricular activities too if I had to deal with it.

Thats besides all the inherent problems that whores have to begin with... Originally Posted by AmishGangster

Fine assessment from an experienced local hobbyist.....

It might just be my perception, but I too think the new Age 18-25, and even the new Age 18-30 providers don't make it very long, on TOS or Eccie.....

They "debut", then often there is some public board "drama" associated with them, and then they disappear.....

AG and Jinny are correct- there are MANY male losers in the hobby who are drawn to new girls "like a moth to a flame"......

"Give me a free session for a good review." "Let me help you with your marketing and ad-posting and computer expertise." "Lets date so I can get free pussy": ALL sorts of pathetic bullshit coming from these loser hobbyists. And these clowns RUSH these new girls and alienate and antagonize a lot of the new girls.....

Add in the factor of a lot of young girls have pimps, boyfriends, "drivers", drug dealers, "besties", "roommates", etc running the show, and it is not surprising that a lot of them burn out QUICK.....

And, this is a sad-assessment: who WOULD'NT do drugs if you had to deal with all that bullshit???.....

TOS has an advantage for guys who want Easily Scheduling and Easy Booking. Most of the providers who post ads there are experienced, and they are essentially Reliable providers.....

Also, one thing I learned when I started reading hobby boards: many hobbyist PREFER "mature" and MILF providers. Particularly guys in their Age 50's, 60's, and 70's. So those guys can have a Blast in the PGH marketplace.....

The hobby is "what you make of it." TOS and it's Cain & Abel local-brother site Eccie are what they are. Any guy can Get Laid in PGH if he puts his mind to it. And sessions in PGH still average $200, $250, or $300 an hour, just like they were 10+ years ago.....

SA has Multiple HYG's (Hot Young Girls) and some of them fuck faster than others. Many HYG's on SA Don't Fuck At All. SA girls run the gamut from BP-style "street" hoodrats, "princess" college girls who want to "go out to dinner" or "go to the opera" and Get Paid and NOT Fuckand SA has Pro Ho's who just want to make money Easily, Conveniently and Safely. There are Pro Ho's on SA, you just have to sift through all the Scammers, Clueless Civilians, and GPS girls......

tolstoy: All Positivity, All The Time.....

Here is one big factor in the escorting by the time a girl decides to escort she has problems maybe not big problems but some problems . Then she gets into the business and while the money may start flying in and look good the problems multiply. Tying to manage there own personal life and then scheduling meeting.

I can't imagine how many wacko's text these girls . The ones who want to see if they can get the lowest price in town . The ones who want to see her a couple times a week for a cut rate . The ones who want to date her. The ones who want to help her . The ones who offer her medicine for meeting. The ones who want to pimp her. The ones who stalk her . The ones who offer reviews for a discount or want to feed info in return for rate cuts.

Then you have what shows up at her fucking door . The ones who want bareback . The ones who are drunk. The ones who want to have rough sex. The ones who smell bad. The ones who try to steal shit or take the money or short change her. The fact if she is her 20's she is going to meet a lot of older men not a bad thing but not for some girls it could pay into the decision to move on.

One thing is for sure her issues will become bigger and may overtake her.

Like there are "street" hookers and just-plain-bad providers guys have to watch-out for and avoid- definitely there are "street" hobbyists and scumbags and "romeo's" and "advice-dwellers" who screw-up providers games.....

If a provider "knows what she is doing" BCD and business-wise then she can "pick and choose" clients. Weed-out the creeps and deal with Only the guys who treat them well. This is the MO of all hot, "with it", UTR providers. Most providers and SA girls I have done business with have stories of bad clients, some of them Benny Hill-style comic stories, many of them scary.....

I know one girl said she gets 100+ texts within an hour of putting up an ad. No wonder she's so hard to hear back from. How do you handle all of that demand when there's zero upside to telling a person "sorry, I'm booked full." So you just ignore them, or you play the game and see who might be the highest bidder. Then hope they'll actually come thru.

I know one girl said she gets 100+ texts within an hour of putting up an ad. No wonder she's so hard to hear back from. How do you handle all of that demand when there's zero upside to telling a person "sorry, I'm booked full." So you just ignore them, or you play the game and see who might be the highest bidder. Then hope they'll actually come thru. Originally Posted by GloccaMorra

That's true. A provider would show me all the PMs she received while I was with her. Some of the outrageous shit guys wanted. From putting worms in her pussy to sucking a guys dick after he fucked her. Some really weird shit.

Like there are "street" hookers and just-plain-bad providers guys have to watch-out for and avoid- definitely there are "street" hobbyists and scumbags and "romeo's" and "advice-dwellers" who screw-up providers games.....

If a provider "knows what she is doing" BCD and business-wise then she can "pick and choose" clients. Weed-out the creeps and deal with Only the guys who treat them well. This is the MO of all hot, "with it", UTR providers. Most providers and SA girls I have done business with have stories of bad clients, some of them Benny Hill-style comic stories, many of them scary..... Originally Posted by tolstoy

This is IMHO the most intuitive post on this subject.
The smart woman does pick and choose when she can. Some of us can always be selective because we are good at what we do.

And to reiterate
today's technology and mindsmindset regarding this thing of ours has allowed a lot of ladies to solicit on a variety of platforms. I would say that most younger girls will flock to instagram, Facebook, eBay, and Twitter rather than be connected to an actual hooker website.

By the way
long ago during a board meeting I was asked if a company website was a good idea. My silly response?
Everybody is doing it. Seems a great idea.
Too superfluous an answer, no website. ...... the new owners thought differently and turned it back into a profitable business.

There are guys in this board who are hagglers and are disrespectful and that keeps some ladies underground and keeps traveling ladies from coming here

Stating that as such will likely get me branded as a white knight,I guess if being a gentlman is out these days please refer to me as Sir nerdboy2005