You guys shouldn't vote for him next time. Maybe he won't win! Originally Posted by Yssup RiderThat settles it, I don't care of he did win Times Person of the Year. I am not voting for Obama next time either.
HILLARY 2016!
ObamaCare started to take affect in 2011 or so. What happened before than was more related to simple increases by insurance providers to cover increased costs of medical care, over which Obama had no control.The "goodies" associated with Obamacare kicked in immediately. It allowed me to keep my son on my insurance. Most of the "taxes" associated with Obamacare kick in 2014. This was purposeful. Also my health insurance has gone up more under Obama's term than before Obamacare. I expect it to go up even further in 2014. In 2014 when he's no longer on my insurance plan, he'll have to purchase health insurance or face a fine or possibly imprisonment.
But I see that you are definitely looking at and emphasizing negatives (light bulbs?) and that is fine. I won't try and change your opinion. I try to balance the bad with the good (my 401k increasing dramatically which will allow me to possibly retire with a nice income). Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
The "goodies" associated with Obamacare kicked in immediately. It allowed me to keep my son on my insurance. Most of the "taxes" associated with Obamacare kick in 2014. This was purposeful. Also my health insurance has gone up more under Obama's term than before Obamacare. I expect it to go up even further in 2014. In 2014 when he's no longer on my insurance plan, he'll have to purchase health insurance or face a fine or possibly imprisonment.Obama has wanted a socialized health care system all along. Obamacare is just a way of phasing out private health care completely.
The light bulb thing was passed by the Dems but signed by Bush. Originally Posted by gnadfly
Here's a list for you, Cap'n.that is what I was thinking too
http://www.akdart.com/obama151.html Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy