Think Before You Vote!

Glock, you stumbled into one of my favorite rants:
"Women will have the choice to have an abortion without undue and unnecessary regulations.
That's fine, as long as they pay for it"

I think the converse logic is more relevant. Give or take there are somewhere around 900,000 abortions/yr. Obviously, the mother did not want to raise the child and financial inability is a major reason. So, if we ban abortion and force birth 900,000 new previously unwanted children, who will bear the cost of their upbringing? Originally Posted by reddog1951

Let's compromise.... The govt. will pay for one abortion per female. At the end of the procedure, the female will be permanently sterilized. They've already demonstrated an inability to make good decisions, might as well save the tax payer all future expenses.

Think Before You Vote!


The Democratic party of today is not the party of yur Fathers. The Democratic Party of 2020 is different from what we remember from the past . . .even the recent past.

It is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman who lead us through WW-II. It is not the party of President Kennedy or President Johnson. It is not the party of George McGovern or Hubert Humphrey. It is not the party of President Carter who brokered a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. None of these leaders would support or endorse the Democratic Party of today.

It is not today the party that sought to remake America through legislative programs such as The New Deal, The Great Society or The War on Poverty'. It is not the party that said, " . . .ask not what your country can do for you . . ."

This is not the party of Barbara Jordan or Caesar Chavez, both of whom championed minority rights and opposed illegal immigration. The Democratic Party in 2020 is not the party of Viola Liuzzo or Medger Evers, who each died alone in the cause of civil rights. It is no longer the party of John L. Lewis who lead the march over the bridge at Selma. Nor is it the party of Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young or Jessie Jackson, all of whom knelt over the bleeding body of Martin Luther King as he lay dying of an assassin's bullet.

This is not the party that demanded that the protections and freedoms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights be applied for all persons regardless of their point of view or the color of their skin . . . . and then amended The Constitution to explicitly ensure that universal application of those rights occurred. No longer.

Now, as we stand on the threshold of the third decade of the 21st Century, Democrat mayors and governors have implemented policys and taken actions that discriminate against or suppress Christian and Jewish worship; in effect suspending multiple provisions of the First Amendment.
The Democratic Party has moved away from its' liberal roots of the late 20th Century, to become the party of avowed Marxist-Socialists such as Bill de Blasio, Alexandra Ocassio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. The Democratic party of 2020 has endorsed and given massive financial support to violent radical groups, such as Back Lives Matter and Antifa: organizations or grpups whose announced intention and goal is to dismantle our society . . . . through violence if necessary.

The Party has turned its back on its 20th Century liberal ideals and has instead embraced the radical legacy of Angela Davis, Stokley Carmichael and H. Rap Brown along with Bobby Seal, Abby Hoffman and other domestic terrorists of the 1960s and '70s. This is no longer the party of Head Start or The Peace Corps. The Democrat Party has turned away from the non-violent principles of Gandhi as embraced by Dr. King. It has rather turned to the examples of the Weather Underground.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examination of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if t
hat is what they themselves actually stand for today.

Think before you vote! Originally Posted by ICU 812

Crazy . . .no. Thoughtful introspection before taking action is not crazy.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examination of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if t
hat is what they themselves actually stand for today.

Think before you vote!

ICU - amen, good sir!!
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Crazy . . .no. Thoughtful introspection before taking action is not crazy.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examination of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if t
hat is what they themselves actually stand for today.

Think before you vote! Originally Posted by ICU 812

If your "idea" of sitting by the family fire for the holidays looks like this:






You belong in Venezuala

Think Before You Vote!

The Democratic party of today is not the party of Our Fathers. Originally Posted by ICU 812

Trump is a Democrat!

Think before you vote! Originally Posted by ICU 812

People who act upon hate usually make fatal errors.

When one votes against Trump, they are voting for Kumola.

And Pisslousy as VP for the remainder of the term. Is that what you all really want .... "A National California" .... just remember, please, ... that's the holdup by PissLousy on the "Covid Stimulus" package ... money to bailout California .... she is already wanting to use your money to take care of HER STATE!

There will be economic disaster for the country not to mention the endless forest fires burning the country started by defective auto batteries and charging stations.

Houston area will be a ghost town .... including Clear Lake ... while they develope an ELECTRIC ROCKET ENGINE! ... and our missile defense and offense program will be "on hold" during the development of ELECTRIC propulsion systems ...!!!! The Chinese will furnish us the batteries!!!!

Just to be clear, the shit in red is what I DON'T want. Originally Posted by GastonGlock

The shit in red is what you already have and it isn't going away.

People who act upon hate usually make fatal errors.

When one votes against Trump, they are voting for Kumola.

And Pisslousy as VP for the remainder of the term. Is that what you all really want .... "A National California" .... just remember, please, ... that's the holdup by PissLousy on the "Covid Stimulus" package ... money to bailout California .... she is already wanting to use your money to take care of HER STATE!

There will be economic disaster for the country not to mention the endless forest fires burning the country started by defective auto batteries and charging stations.

Houston area will be a ghost town .... including Clear Lake ... while they develope an ELECTRIC ROCKET ENGINE! ... and our missile defense and offense program will be "on hold" during the development of ELECTRIC propulsion systems ...!!!! The Chinese will furnish us the batteries!!!! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Any economic disaster is 100% on Trump. This pandemic is 100% his fault that it got this bad. Once again, like 12 years ago, a Democrat will have to come in and clean up the so called "conservative" mess.

From his mouth to your ears.

6 seconds of torture



Gots to get me some of that trunalimunumaprzure
I suspect the sign language interpreter got carpel tunnel from that one.

Joeys "forgot his own age he said he's 74 ( Big T living in his head ) his by any math 77 ( 1942)

I guess he's trying chineses

Earlier in this thread I stated my opinion that voting for (or against) either of the presidential candidates is folly. Both men are seriously compromised in any measure of character; integrity, ethics etc. I further make the pint that the Democratic party of 2020 is very different from the Democratic party of the past, say from President Roosevelt forward, perhaps through Clinton, then described some of what I perceive as the differences. I Am convinced that the changes enumerated are all negative.

Opposing my OP and my subsequent support for that OP, have come posts that indulge in middle-school level name calling and personal slander; that's OK, I am a big boy.

What I do not see here is much if any actual refutation of my position on the Democratic party of 2020. None of the named Democrats of 20th Century would endorse any of the policies or practices of the Democratic party in the 21st.

Government really has just a few responsibilities; preserving the nation from outside aggression, ensuring public safety and at the local level, removing garbage to name a few. I recommend reading the Preamble to The Constitution. Releasing jailed criminals and passively allowing riot and looting are not among them.

Drop the name calling and refute something with well reasoned discussion.

I applaud your invitation to the DPST's - ICU.

It is a lost cause with them - too inculcated and indoctrinated by XiNN and its' propaganda!

One flaw in the question of this thread. dims dont "think"! dims are told how to vote and why! They really are snow flakes! When under a lil' heat they just melt!

lolling

WD - agreed!!!