Can't believe this has to be addressed......

^^^Make up sex is the best^^^

How about it ladies

Nice AD!

I owe Cara a serious pussy licking. Originally Posted by TXSuccubus

I've never had a SERIOUS pussy licking...it was always just for fun. Hehe!

I am not friends with either SG or Bailey. I know them yes. I respect them yes. I consider someone a friend that I have at least weekly interactions with and I barely talk to either of them.

Originally Posted by TXSuccubus

I must say, I don't know what any of this drama is all about but I do know this part stood out to me
I have a great family and circle of friend but unfortunately I don't talk to them all every week.I still very much consider them friends. I have a bestie I don't speak to nothing but once or twice a month, but she is still my best friend.
Never would I call her less of a friend because we didn't speak weekly.
Hell I don't have enough drama a week to gossip EVERY WEEK about

Classiest bitch fight in history

...This person outing this person and spreading rumors. Both sides claim the same thing. And neither side has proof that it's the other doing these things. All based off rumors.

My personal opinion is that neither party is attacking each other. But SOMEONE in the middle is fueling the fire. Someone is making up false things to get these women to fight.


OR someone is totalling lying.

Originally Posted by TXSuccubus

In everything that has been said in this thread I think you have hit upon something very important that everyone needs to consider......

You present two scenarios........

1) That someone is manipulating it all for some nefarious reason, pitting Provider against Provider and causing turmoil in lives......

or.....

2) Someone is lying.......

In either scenario.... the fact that it has been going on for a good while is fairly well known...... a lot of people have been hurt and there seems to be a determination to se it continue.....

You have to sit back and evaluate it impartially and draw upon what you KNOW and set aside what you feel for a while....

Who has something to gain?.....
What do you know that there are facts to backup?...

For example..... A lady telling you she was outed and had to move right away to protect herself gets instant sympathy right?.... Was she actually being evicted or did not have rent and was moving one step ahead of the process?

Sit down and at the top of a piece of paper write down a name and then write everything you know supposedly happened to her..... and write down the source of how you know what you do....

Make a page for every person..... thumbtack them to a wall in front of you and look for common denominators....... Make some notes as to what you think from what you see......

Then take a Magic Marker and draw a line through everything you know where the source is the person that told you...... remove anything that you do not have some first hand knowledge of.....

Is there anything left? What is left..... Who is left.....

Make some new notes and compare to the old ones.......

Start over....... At this point you have a suspicion probably......

Apply that premise to all the information and ask yourself..... IF SUSPECT A was lying...... What is here that is swaying my opinion and the opinion of others? Is there a reason why this would benefit them or their agenda.....

I think that anyone that is on the inside of this problem that does this little exercise will come down to a couple of names that fit both of your premises..... A Third Party Manipulator? or someone is lying?

Why not both? Working together?

I am an outsider looking in..... I do not have a personal friendship with any of the players and I only know a few of them by name...... but I have heard a lot of this and seen some of the proof as well as the damage.....

I think you are looking for the best in someone and a reason to believe in them...... I think someone is very adept at lying as well as playing a victim them self simply to position them self outside of suspicion. I also think that person has a 3rd party that will manipulate things for them.... those are my thoughts.......

I've had this conversation with a few that have come to a similar conclusion.

Let's just drop it all ok? I forgive you. I'm not one to hold grudges. But next time, come to me FIRST if someone says I said something. Because I promise you, if I did, I won't hesitate to tell you to your face. Originally Posted by SweetCara

I whole heartedly agree to this statement.

Someone has a gripe about me, I don't want to hear it third party.

GO TO THE HORSES' MOUTH FOR AN ANSWER!!! DON'T BITCH TO EVERYONE ABOUT UNSUBSTANTIATED ENUENDO!


But there has been alot of crap going on this board.
And I know Cara doesn't get involved or contribute to it.
For those that have looked in the right place in the past, they can see that she was dinged because of someone who could not handle *their* problems and saw fit to drag others that were not involved into it.

She is a standup act. And those that are not, they are soon left on the side of the road. Especially when challenged. I was especially happy that I was able to call out someone on their crap and put my billfold behind it. They certainly backed out like a chicken.

If we do like the quoted text above, things will be better.

And Whispers has a good methodical way of getting to the source.

I rely on the Godfather series of movies on ways to draw someone out

Um...it didn't...

But have fun with the drama... Originally Posted by Wakeup

keep the racial slurs off the board - VS

In everything that has been said in this thread I think you have hit upon something very important that everyone needs to consider......

You present two scenarios........

1) That someone is manipulating it all for some nefarious reason, pitting Provider against Provider and causing turmoil in lives......

or.....

2) Someone is lying.......

In either scenario.... the fact that it has been going on for a good while is fairly well known...... a lot of people have been hurt and there seems to be a determination to se it continue.....

You have to sit back and evaluate it impartially and draw upon what you KNOW and set aside what you feel for a while....

Who has something to gain?.....
What do you know that there are facts to backup?...

For example..... A lady telling you she was outed and had to move right away to protect herself gets instant sympathy right?.... Was she actually being evicted or did not have rent and was moving one step ahead of the process?

Sit down and at the top of a piece of paper write down a name and then write everything you know supposedly happened to her..... and write down the source of how you know what you do....

Make a page for every person..... thumbtack them to a wall in front of you and look for common denominators....... Make some notes as to what you think from what you see......

Then take a Magic Marker and draw a line through everything you know where the source is the person that told you...... remove anything that you do not have some first hand knowledge of.....

Is there anything left? What is left..... Who is left.....

Make some new notes and compare to the old ones.......

Start over....... At this point you have a suspicion probably......

Apply that premise to all the information and ask yourself..... IF SUSPECT A was lying...... What is here that is swaying my opinion and the opinion of others? Is there a reason why this would benefit them or their agenda.....

I think that anyone that is on the inside of this problem that does this little exercise will come down to a couple of names that fit both of your premises..... A Third Party Manipulator? or someone is lying?

Why not both? Working together?

I am an outsider looking in..... I do not have a personal friendship with any of the players and I only know a few of them by name...... but I have heard a lot of this and seen some of the proof as well as the damage.....

I think you are looking for the best in someone and a reason to believe in them...... I think someone is very adept at lying as well as playing a victim them self simply to position them self outside of suspicion. I also think that person has a 3rd party that will manipulate things for them.... those are my thoughts.......

I've had this conversation with a few that have come to a similar conclusion. Originally Posted by Whispers

''Next one of you who says something has to deal with me...You see, this is exactly what they want us to do. They play one against the other. You can't let them manipulate you like that. Now I want you guys to shake hands. C'mon, there are plenty women out there for all of us let's go. YES!'' - Kramer

''Next one of you who says something has to deal with me...You see, this is exactly what they want us to do. They play one against the other. You can't let them manipulate you like that. Now I want you guys to shake hands. C'mon, there are plenty women out there for all of us let's go. YES!'' - Kramer Originally Posted by Dr. Dew

There may very well be one person playing both sides against the other...... Why? I don't know... probably because he's addicted to some particular pussy and it's a way of making her happy..... Maybe she's clueless? I kind of doubt it.....

There may very well be one person playing both sides against the other...... Why? I don't know... probably because he's addicted to some particular pussy and it's a way of making her happy..... Maybe she's clueless? I kind of doubt it..... Originally Posted by Whispers

I am starting to rethink the Clueless Part...