OBAMA'S EO BIG LIE: "THEY WILL PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE"

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Assup, make up your mind. In one post you claim it is never OK to lie, and then in another, you defend some of the biggest lies told by government. Which is it?
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Clinton did not Invade Iraq and spend 2 trillion dollars to look for corroded weapons from the 1980's. You are a Bush asslicker. In your mind everything Bush did was right. There is a reason why Bush left office with a 71% disapproval rating. Bush was a disaster. Originally Posted by flghtr65
You're right, Clinton didn't invade Iraq. He's the guy who let UBL get away multiple times, setting us up for 9/11. Read the Clinton quotes again. Do either of them say not to worry, Saddam only has a bunch of corroded WMDs from the 1980s? Nope. And by the way flighty, remember the “Iraq Liberation Act of 1998”? Bubba welcomed it. The bill was passed overwhelmingly in the House and unanimously in the Senate and declared it to be the policy of the US to seek Saddam's overthrow.

Who are you calling a Bush asslicker? I don't think “everything Bush did was right”. Only a bonehead would think that about ANY President. Bush's failure to curb federal spending was a stain on his record. He made errors in Iraq - his decisions to disband Saddam's military and push de-Baathification too deeply are examples. I have lots of issues with Bush. Pay attention, flighty. You, on the other hand, are Odumbo's most loyal lapdog. He can sign a 2000+ page healthcare bill and you won't find a single damn thing wrong with it. Lies were told to get it passed? Must be someone else's fault. Benghazi? Bergdahl? Lois Lerner? Brian Terry? All phony scandals, every one of them. When you're an Odumbo worshipper, no critical thinking is required. Ever.

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Spin much ?

Don't take my word...here is what the left leaning PolitiFact said about these Obama statements. And there are many more. In fact PolitiFact named Obama Liar of the Year for 2013 - for this whopper...."If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan, period".

FACTS JACK !






The lie has been identified; you just refuse to see it. Just like you don't think Obama lied when he told us, to name just a few of the dozens upon dozens:
  • “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”
  • “The Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration.”
  • “We revealed to the American people exactly what we understood at the time.” (on benghazi)
Originally Posted by Whirlaway
1. You don't think Congress that is made up of lawyers didn't know what they were voting for with the ACA? $94 is $94 regardless of what you call it, a fine or a tax.

2. The Arizona ATF agents started Fast and Furious on their own with no help from Washington. They sent the first Email to Holder 3 months after the guns "started walking" FACT JACK. The name Fast and Furious evolved after the agents noticed that the gun buyers worked in an autobody shop and raced cars at night.

3. There was no coverup with Benghazi. Rice was wrong about the Video but that is what they thought at the time. It is well known that the CIA was using local militia for protection, that failed to show up when called. A congressional committee has already confirmed this.

Try something else Whirly, you have nothing here. Originally Posted by flghtr65
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Assup, make up your mind. In one post you claim it is never OK to lie, and then in another, you defend some of the biggest lies told by government. Which is it? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Yes or no? Answer me!

You're so full of shit, Whiny, LMAO!

I didn't defend any lies. Quote that passage. You can't because it isn't there.

I merely pointed out that the REAL liar in this thread is Whir-LIE-turd. He claimed something was a lie, yet couldn't produce the falsehood. Only his twisted opinion based on a string of "what ifs."

You are the one defending the lie. whit-LUE-turd's. Does that mean you favor lying as a means to an end? Answer me that.
Obama lied when he said his illegals would "pay their fair share"..............I gave you the link that pointed out they will not PAY into the system, but will be net recipients of taxpayer funded payments. As much as $15,000 in EITC annually for a family of five. Add in Obamacare subsidy, food stamps, rent assistance, and everything else.....makes Obama's lie even more astonishing.

A new report says Obama's illegals will cost US taxpayers a net $40 billion per year !!!!!!!!!!!

Obama to US Taxpayers - Take It Up The Ass.
“Aha,” you might argue, “but while the newly legalized population pays no net income taxes, it does pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.” That’s true, but the government already receives much of that money. “In fact,” says the Century Foundation, “about $6 billion in annual payroll taxes are allocated to non-existent Social Security accounts. Experts attribute these payments to the forged documents that illegal immigrants purchase in order to find work. This $6 billion is collected each year with no future benefit-rights assigned. This sum is certainly more than any income taxes that would be owed on the earnings involved.”
Why does Obama feel compelled to lie (deceive) the American public so frequently?

What is it about his personality? I think he is a sociopath.



http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/23/ob...-college-grad/
CuteOldGuy's Avatar
Yes or no? Answer me!

You're so full of shit, Whiny, LMAO!

I didn't defend any lies. Quote that passage. You can't because it isn't there.

I merely pointed out that the REAL liar in this thread is Whir-LIE-turd. He claimed something was a lie, yet couldn't produce the falsehood. Only his twisted opinion based on a string of "what ifs."

You are the one defending the lie. whit-LUE-turd's. Does that mean you favor lying as a means to an end? Answer me that. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
I'm not defending Whirly, AssupLiar. I am pointing out your hypocrisy. You lied about hating lies, and yet if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them a liar. Someone states an opinion that doesn't glorify Emperor Obama, you call them a liar. Your shtick is old and boring. But your righteous indignation over what you, yourself, have perfected, is still funny, AssupLiarRidee!

Well, well, well.......WAPO Fact Checker Awards Obama Four Pinocchios From His EO Speech....


President George H.W. Bush “expanded the family fairness program to cover more than 1.5 million unauthorized spouses and children. This represented about 40 percent of the undocumented population at the time.”

-BO Obama





http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...migrants-nope/
40 billion for 5 million votes..not too bad

$8,000 a vote?

pretty good when the conservatives have to pay most of it
Yssup Rider's Avatar
I'm not defending Whirly, AssupLiar. I am pointing out your hypocrisy. You lied about hating lies, and yet if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them a liar. Someone states an opinion that doesn't glorify Emperor Obama, you call them a liar. Your shtick is old and boring. But your righteous indignation over what you, yourself, have perfected, is still funny, AssupLiarRidee!

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
So this is now your central discussion in TWO threads, with more, I'm sure, to come.

Your accusations herein are without substance yet chock-full of generalization. You can't specify what you're whining about, nor can you address the questions I directed at Whir-LIE-turd. Talk about hypocrisy! I call 'em like I see them. If I call you out on an exaggeration or question the accuracy of your statements of fact, then it's simply that you've exaggerated, spun or, yes, LIED. your schtick is more boring than yours (FTFY!).

Unless you're going to try and LIE about that too!

N....that is $40 b A YEAR !

40 billion for 5 million votes..not too bad

$8,000 a vote?

pretty good when the conservatives have to pay most of it Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Obama lied when he said his illegals would "pay their fair share"..............I gave you the link that pointed out they will not PAY into the system, but will be net recipients of taxpayer funded payments. As much as $15,000 in EITC annually for a family of five. Add in Obamacare subsidy, food stamps, rent assistance, and everything else.....makes Obama's lie even more astonishing.

A new report says Obama's illegals will cost US taxpayers a net $40 billion per year !!!!!!!!!!!

Obama to US Taxpayers - Take It Up The Ass.
“Aha,” you might argue, “but while the newly legalized population pays no net income taxes, it does pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.” That’s true, but the government already receives much of that money. “In fact,” says the Century Foundation, “about $6 billion in annual payroll taxes are allocated to non-existent Social Security accounts. Experts attribute these payments to the forged documents that illegal immigrants purchase in order to find work. This $6 billion is collected each year with no future benefit-rights assigned. This sum is certainly more than any income taxes that would be owed on the earnings involved.”
Why does Obama feel compelled to lie (deceive) the American public so frequently?

What is it about his personality? I think he is a sociopath.



http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/23/ob...-college-grad/ Originally Posted by Whirlaway
What is the fair share for those living below the poverty line? If they aren't required to pay into the system because of that or any other reason for that matter, how is that statement a lie?

And for the record, I know a lot of people in their early to mid 30s saddled with massive student loan payments ... who was President when they were forced to assume that crushing debt?

No lies now, Whir-LIE-turd. Let the Daily Caller do it for you.
Not what Obama said; Obama said his illegals would PAY their fair share; getting a check from the government isn't paying their fair share it is being a Payee - a receipt of government largess. Just the opposite of what Obama led (many in ) the audience to believe.

I can understand why Obama so easily deceives dummies like yourself. You are too stupid to understand when you are being hustled.

What part of "purposeful deceptions are lies", don't you understand?
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You have not proven the efficacy of your claim, Whir-LIE-turd.

Editorializing again?
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And for the record, I know a lot of people in their early to mid 30s saddled with massive student loan payments ... who was President when they were forced to assume that crushing debt? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider
You're way off topic, dipshit, as usual. No one knows what your point is or how it relates to anything in this thread. But tell me anyway - how do you “force” someone to take out a student loan? Did someone put a gun to their heads and say – you gotta take this cash? Is the mafia running the student loan business now? Welcome to Assuplibtardville, where everyone is a victim and no one is responsible for their own sorry little asses. Don't feel like paying back your loans? Blame the lenders. After all, they “forced” you to take the money, didn't they?

Fucking idiot!
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More evidence of your unworthiness, Junior.

You went full retard on that post. You never go full retard.

Apparently, you didn't go to the university (but hate the smart kids who did) or else your Daddy paid your way through school.

Either way, Junior, you're inert.

Pity you can't figure out the T-level it takes to compete at this level. Even if you did, you're still a prelim match heel.