Revies don't mean anything? other than they have seen I assume the provider they are referencing. Right?
Girls lie? Girls Don't respond?
So if the references you gave me didn't respond I wouldn't see you. Right? And if you lie to each other ... well that stinks but then why do I need references if you don't trust them? I would think a reference would be the best verification - but then again I trust people until they give me a reason not to trust.
The way I look at it ... I made the decision to join P411 and provide my information to them and they verified it. So, I would hope that would be trust worthy. If you want a phone number and email address (as most will tell you get a fake hobby phone and email) so I see little advantage in asking for those as verification? For a way to contact yes, as verification no.
Listening to all the things all the providers say I am not sure I would ever feel safe as a provider. I think Dorthy once said somewhere "trust your gut if it doesn't feel right walk away" which I always thought was the best advice.
In the end, every provider needs to feel safe and every John needs to feel safe too! let's not forget for every crazy John out there ... there is a crazy provider that will out him or blacklist him for personal reasons etc or a pimp in the background maybe. Ladies you ask for what ever makes you feel safe [period] - but think through why you are asking for that piece of information and is it giving you the safety you seek, because every piece of information you ask takes more and more clients out of your potential marketplace - I think the OP is right about that. (at least that is what I got out of the OP's post, well that and he just wanted to blow off steam) I also don't think you should get mad at us (your clients) if we say that is too much to ask ... either when screening or in responding to a post. After all it is just that persons opinion, nothing personal. (then again maybe there is a past history I don't know about)
And Dorthy ... smh? Shut my hole? 
HOBBY SAFE
Originally Posted by 5T3V3
Like I said Reviews don't mean anything all someone has to do is look at multiple reviews from that provider and summarize there own made up story of how a session went.. Common Sense
I didn't say I don't trust all of them some girls on here are not reputable and also don't respond to provider references.. I ask for references because its always nice to hear from a actually person how you were in session.. That's also common sense
If your knew to the board or don't have posts and your references don't respond I don't see you.. I have had many girls lie and say they never seen the dlient because they are jealous and dont wanr you seeing another provider.. That's why I say I don't trust them.. Nothing is 100% when screening but if you actually have some common sense and think out the box screening should come pretty easy..
To answer your question you need references because I said you do.. I ask for things for a reason and do things for a reason thats for me to know and you to wonder... Half of yall can't even thoroughly search for the type of provider you are wanting without making multiple iso's of the same subject so alot of this you wouldn't understand anyways.. I also want to see what kind of providers you see because that tells alot about YOU..
You said every piece of information takes a client out your market place is completely bullshit.. If you have nothing to hide then providing the information will not be a problem.. If you actually do your research on the girl then you wont be hesitant of giving the provider the information she asks..
If you dont like her screening then move the fuck on & find someone else its simple making these dumbass threads complaining about how you don't want to give up information is not going to solve anything or change our ways..
This hobby is a gamble and if you actually give 2 fucks about your safety & understand the actual risks involved going through screening will not be a issue period.. If your worried aabout giving your information to a girl because you have to be discrete then take your funky ass to BP or a Spa & stfu.... Grrrrr
OR STOP CHEATING ON YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER & YOU WILL HAVE NO WORRIES..
Us ladies know absolutely nothing about you & you know enough about us even our appearance so if you can't respect our safety then your not client worthy period..
