Stripping vs. Providing

The problem with strip clubs from a hobbyist perspective is that we actually know the market value of a session, strippers often have an extremely inflated sense of their own worth when it comes to extras and/or rely on drunk, horny, desperate guys who probably don't know any better to pay it. No offense to the ladies here who do both, but I think you know this to be true. "Stripper with GPS" is unnecessarily redundant.

It's always possible to get a reasonable rate and convince them you know the deal and aren't new to this, but it's uncertain and a lot of work to get past the hustle and the hard sell for what turns out to be a shitty quickie ITC or even more work to turn it into a reasonably priced OTC session.

It's fun every once in awhile but in general, yeah a waste of money unless you just like the attention from hot girls grinding on you and that's enough. Sometimes it can be fun.

From the girl's perspective though I can obviously see why it would be preferable to dance and flirt and grind vs sucking and fucking. If they provide extras it's in the relative safety of the club and at a good rate/hr. It's not as consistently lucrative though unless they're a 10/10. But even then, if they're a 10/10 they could make far more as a provider at HDH rates. Ultimately it comes down to the fact that becoming a provider is a step many women just aren't willing to take for a myriad of reasons, it's as simple as that. If they can make good money dancing and flirting without having to deliver the goods then good for them!

I see them every day. Bars, lounges, restaurants, malls, Starbucks, stores, Concerts, shows, games, etc. Most young hot girls don't need ECCIE, P411, BP to find guys willing to spend money and plenty. Originally Posted by AlexisMoore

They are not as obvious to me but I have found a few...honestly not trying too hard. But mainly I have found them through their friends...not directly.

I won't share my most recent experience as all the tards will call me a liar.

But one problem I have....is that so many of the woman I hit on for potential SB's....want the real deal....me and all of me. Look, maybe I'm exaggerating...but I'm old, fat, ugly (many contributing variables), and the list goes on without outing myself. But hey I am always "freshly showered" and presentable. (Whores tell me I'm a good fuck...but girls in the street don't know that.)

I'm a professional and....I don't reek of money but they know I have it....and so on. And they don't know the jack ass I appear to be on eccie.

But the problem is so many want "happily ever after" .... which doesn't exist...not even for Tiger Woods.

Case in point: A few months ago I was sitting in a starbucks staged nearby a meeting I was going to. There wasn't much time so I didn't get a table and start working...I just sat in the easy chairs with strangers.

Well this abso-fucking-lutely beautiful Latina comes and sits in the chair next to me. She's on her cell phone and jabbering like any other woman....not loud enough for all of starbucks to hear her but I could hear her.

Well she wasn't like Zafiro hot but she was hot even dressed in conservative clothes. Just in to her early 30s I learned later.. Two young kids, IIRC. Well her call was in spanish and she was saying some funny shit on the phone. The first time this gringo giggled she didn't notice. The second time, she gave me the stink eye. Later she said something that was also funny to her and I laughed and nodded my head left right to her surprise.

Well...after she got off the call she started talking to me in spanish and I kept up with her. I apologized for laughing but told her she shouldn't talk so loud even in a foreign language.

Eventually I handed her my phone and asked her to send an email to her address....and she did.

After a few emails back and forth, she agreed to meet for lunch and ritas....and we did.

Holy crap....she shows up this time lookin even better than Zafiro complete with a RED skirt on and fully accessorized for my viewing pleasure. Her azz was round enough even Kerwil would hit it. I got the welcum hug and everything.

We went in and had lunch and ritas staying about an hour and a half after we finished eating. We had great conversation and bear in mind I'm workin' my fuckin ass off trying to keep up with the spanish. I'm studying hard but it is not easy for me to understand. Fortunately, my delivery is great and they don't laugh at me for saying wrong shit.

But anyway, we had a great conversation and finally she asks about my "family"....I'm not going to lie to her so I told her.

Well, ... I that sunk me. Clearly she's looking for happily ever after and I was thinkin' we sure could "help each other out"....but what do I know.

You can't win them all....but don't stop looking.

They are not as obvious to me but I have found a few...honestly not trying too hard. But mainly I have found them through their friends...not directly.

I won't share my most recent experience as all the tards will call me a liar.

But anyway, I thinck that sunk me. Clearly she's looking for happily ever after and I was thinkin' we sure could "help each other out"....but what do I know.

You can't win them all....but don't stop looking. Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Great story, but without the location of the Starbucks you will not get credits for the review.
But seriously, what does that have to do with strippers/providers? Did you bump the thread to regal us with tales of your wiley charms? Add a lil porn to the next one and tell us about the HJ she gave you under the table before sending you on your way.
You know, the happy ending we all like to hear...

Maybe because they want to have more than one source of income. Especially since, both those sources are unreliable, some months are great and others are not so great.

Great story, but without the location of the Starbucks you will not get credits for the review.
But seriously, what does that have to do with strippers/providers? Did you bump the thread to regal us with tales of your wiley charms? Add a lil porn to the next one and tell us about the HJ she gave you under the table before sending you on your way.
You know, the happy ending we all like to hear...

Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

I think he was continuing off of AlexisMoore's tangent regarding girls who just need or want money. Be them strippers, providers, SB or the Starbuck's hottie next to you.

P.S. Sometimes bilingual people don't look obvious.

Yeah, jus fukkin' w/GS
(slow night in the forums, gotta entertain ourselves somehow)
Still would like to find that * bucks though.

.... Never mind.

I am always "freshly showered" and presentable. Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Yes you are!!!!

That just means ya'll have brow beat him...

From the guy's perspective, the main difference to me between being with a stripper at a club and being with a provider is that at a strip club you are always being upsold (and getting very little for wat you pay for), whereas with a provider, the donation is up front and you can concentrate on the time together and are mostly guaranteed to get what you paid for, whereas at a SC you usually pay 4 times or more as much to get any "attention" at all.

I would think from the lady's perspective, being a provider may be a bit more relaxed, instead of always having to be constantly pulling $20's out of the guy's pocket by trying to get the next lap dance, the next VIP session, or trying to get us to buy over priced drinks for her (and her "friend" who just sat down with you both) in order to meet the club recommended "quota".

Sometimes I have tipped the girl for just sitting with me, as I do recognize that their time is money. A lot have strippers have told me that after they pay the club, many nights they don't make anything at all, or even can come out with a loss. Seems like hit or miss to really make some money at a SC, but obviously, many do.

What this thread needs is taint from misslilly

There's no money in the club..

Damn Ms. Brown.....that is the best response , so far

I'm sure there are several reasons. Some strippers don't see anything wrong with getting naked and rubbing all over men for money, BUT somehow look down on girls who decide to go to the next level (escorting).

Some girls might be too shy to get naked in a room full of men (and other women), but be comfortable in a one on one setting.

The independence of being an escort, even though in some places strippers are considered a "contractor", they still have managers to answer to. As an escort you don't have anyone to answer to.

As crazy as it sounds some have the body type to be an escort to a specific clientele, but may not be able to get hired as a stripper (e.g. some bbw women, older escorts, etc).

A lot of strippers have GPS...and honestly may not be able to fuck good..and like wise many providers can't dance. I hired some providers to dance at a bachelor party a while back and that was an epic fail! They could barely dance and got tired to easily. And lately I have been fucking a lot of strippers mainly due to bait/ switch issues and strippers typically looking better, but the problem with fucking strippers is that they have GPS, don't take direction well and genuinely do not know how to service. Also strippers tend to want to turn it into a SB situation. Where as providers understand that we are paying them to leave and not call.
Although they appear similar, these are 2 different business models and most women gravitate to the one that suits them the best. Strippers look better, providers fuck better.