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Anybody else notice that WonkReamers "ignore" of JD lasted 1 minute?
Do you realize what you just wrote? The government is going to penalize (that has nothing to do with dicks....unless you actually go to prison) a private citizen in order to FORCE them to sign up for a government program and you're okay with that? Sieg Heil Baby Killer. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
Yes, I know what I wrote. To equate it to naziism is idiotic.
Anybody else notice that WonkReamers "ignore" of JD lasted 1 minute? Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
Rey Lengua is on ignore, you illiterate cockshit. And it's lasting just fine, which is more than I can say for that shitheel's erection.

I've yet to grow tired of JD... yet. I still find him amusing and enjoy seeing him play with the string like a fucking cat.
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Do you realize what you just wrote? The government is going to penalize a private citizen in order to FORCE them to sign up for a government program and you're okay with that? Sieg Heil Baby Killer. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
JD....we pay taxes under penalty of fines and or jail. You think I want my taxes going towards the War industry? You feign outrage over some things and ignore the exact same thing when you agree with it.
Rey Lengua is on ignore, you illiterate cockshit. And it's lasting just fine, which is more than I can say for that shitheel's erection.

I've yet to grow tired of JD... yet. I still find him amusing and enjoy seeing him play with the string like a fucking cat. Originally Posted by WombRaider
And YET.....you have responded to me in other threads on here since you put me on "ignore" !! What a doofus !! HA ! HA ! HA !
CAUGHT IN YET ANOTHER LIE WOOMBY / UNDERCUNT / RUSTY BALLOON KNOT / WANNA-BE JALAPENOS UCKER
JD....we pay taxes under penalty of fines and or jail. You think I want my taxes going towards the War industry? You feign outrage over some things and ignore the exact same thing when you agree with it.
Originally Posted by WTF
He's not a seeker of truth. He feigns outrage over this while he willingly pays taxes that have fed the killing machine that takes the lives of innocent children. As long as he thinks his 'team' is winning, he gives not a shit. Despicable. He has no integrity and continues to feed the patriarchal system that tells half the population they are not good enough.
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He's not a seeker of truth. He feigns outrage over this while he willingly pays taxes that have fed the killing machine that takes the lives of innocent children. As long as he thinks his 'team' is winning, he gives not a shit. Despicable. He has no integrity and continues to feed the patriarchal system that tells half the population they are not good enough. Originally Posted by WombRaider
Look at this. One idiot is outraged by something I didn't say or write and another idiot gets behind him to shove is his dick for support. The use of big words does not make it any more true than it is. Both of you are demented. Especially with a guy named Baby Killer talking about killing innocent children. You're plenty sick.
Look at this. One idiot is outraged by something I didn't say or write and another idiot gets behind him to shove is his dick for support. The use of big words does not make it any more true than it is. Both of you are demented. Especially with a guy named Baby Killer talking about killing innocent children. You're plenty sick. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
You feed the patriarchal system implemented and tended by the oligarchs and plutocrats to keep the 'citizens' distracted from the truth. The fact you think these are big words demonstrates less than optimal hope for you when the revolution comes.
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Notice how the word "free" was in quotes? What do you think that means? Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
If a teacher who is single buys a policy on the government exchange and that teachers income is greater than $48,000 then the subsidy amount was $0.00. That teacher did not get any assistance from the Federal government to pay his premium. Therefore, the health insurance he bought was not "FREE" or not even part of it was "FREE". Does this clear it up for you JD?
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By Grace-Marie Turner

51 Changes so far to ObamaCare(PDF)

By our count at the Galen Institute, more than 51 significant changes have been made to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, at least 32 that the Obama administration has made unilaterally, 17 that Congress has passed and the president has signed, and two by the Supreme Court.

Changes By Administrative Action

1.) Employee reporting: The IRS announced that, contrary to statutory language, it was delaying the ACA requirement that employers must report to their employees on their W-2 forms the full cost of their employer-provided health insurance. (March 29, 2011)

2.) Medicare Advantage patch: The administration ordered an advance draw on funds from a Medicare bonus program to provide payments to Medicare Advantage plans to temporarily forestall payment cuts called for in the ACA that could have led to cuts in benefits and an early exodus of MA plans from Medicare. (April 19, 2011)

3.)Tax credit subsidies for some people under 100% FPL and for unlawful immigrants: The ACA provides refundable tax credits to U.S. citizens with incomes between 100 and 400% of poverty, but IRS regulations give credits to citizens below 100% FPL in some cases. Also, Section 36B of the ACA grants credits to some non-citizens with low-incomes only if they are themselves lawfully present in the U.S. and cannot obtain Medicaid coverage. IRS regulations contradict the statute and allow subsidies if “the taxpayer or a member of the taxpayer’s family is lawfully present in the United States,” and “the lawfully present taxpayer or family member is not eligible for the Medicaid program.” (August 17, 2011)

4.) Subsidies may flow through federal exchanges: The IRS issued a rule that allows premium assistance tax credits to be available in federal exchanges although the law specified that they only would be available through an “Exchange established by the State.” (May 23, 2012)

5.) Extension of credits to people receiving employer-sponsored coverage. Section 1511 of the ACA instructs the Labor Department to issue regulations requiring businesses with more than 200 employees to automatically enroll their employees in any health benefits plan offered by the employer. Section 36B correspondingly denies credits to employees covered by an employer plan. IRS regulations contradict the statutory language and allow credits to taxpayers when they are automatically enrolled in employer minimum essential coverage. Treasury implicitly acknowledges there is no statutory authority for its regulatory change. (May 23, 2012)

6.) Delaying a low-income plan: The administration delayed implementation of the Basic Health Program until 2015. It would have provided more-affordable health coverage for certain low-income individuals not eligible for Medicaid. (February 7, 2013)

7.) Closing the high-risk pool: The administration decided to prematurely halt enrollment in transitional federal high-risk pools created by the law, blocking coverage for an estimated 40,000 new applicants, citing a lack of funds. The administration had money from a fund under HHS Secretary Sebelius’s control to extend the pools, but instead used the money to pay for advertising for Obamacare enrollment and other purposes. (February 15, 2013)

8.) Doubling allowed deductibles: Because some group health plans use more than one benefits administrator, plans were allowed to apply separate patient cost-sharing limits to different services, such as doctor/hospital and prescription drugs, allowing maximum out-of-pocket costs to be twice as high as the law intended. (February 20, 2013)

9.) Small businesses on hold: The administration said federal exchanges for small businesses will not be ready by the 2014 statutory deadline, and instead delayed until 2015 the provision of SHOP (Small-Employer Health Option Program) that requires exchanges to offer a choice of qualified health plans. (March 11, 2013)

10.) Employer-mandate delay: By an administrative action that is contrary to language of the ACA, enforcement and reporting requirements for the employer mandate were delayed by one year until 2015. (July 2, 2013)

11.) Self-attestation: Because of the difficulty of verifying income after the employer-reporting requirement was delayed, the administration it would allow “self-attestation” of income and eligibility by applicants for health insurance in the exchanges. (July 15, 2013)

12.) Congressional opt-out: The administration decided to offer employer contributions to Members of Congress and their staffs when they purchase insurance on the exchanges created by the ACA, a subsidy the law doesn’t provide. (September 30, 2013)

13.) Delaying the individual mandate: The administration changed the deadline for the individual mandate by declaring that customers who purchased health insurance by March 31, 2014, would avoid the tax penalty. The law says they would have had to purchase a plan by mid-February to avoid penalties. (October 23, 2013)

14.) Insurance companies may offer canceled plans: The administration announced that insurance companies may reoffer plans that previous regulations had forced them to cancel. (November 14, 2013)

15.) Delaying the online SHOP exchange: The administration first delayed for a month and later for a year until November 2014 the launch of the online insurance marketplace for small businesses that originally was scheduled to launch on October 1, 2013. (September 26, 2013) (November 27, 2013)

16.) Exempting unions from reinsurance fee: The administration gave unions an exemption from the reinsurance fee. To make up for this exemption, non-exempt plans will have to pay a higher fee, which will likely be passed onto consumers in the form of higher premiums and deductibles. (December 2, 2013)

17.) Extending Preexisting Condition Insurance Plan: The administration extended the federal high risk pool until January 31, 2014 and again until March 15, 2014 to prevent a coverage gap for the most vulnerable. The plans were scheduled to expire on December 31, but were extended because it has been impossible for some to sign up for new coverage on healthcare.gov. (December 12, 2013) (January 14, 2014)

18.) Expanding hardship waiver to those with canceled plans: The administration expanded the hardship waiver – which exempts people from the individual mandate and allows some to purchase catastrophic health insurance – to people who have had their plans canceled because of ObamaCare regulations. The administration later extended this waiver until October 1, 2016. (December 19, 2013) (March 5, 2014)

19.) Bay State bailout: More than 300,000 people in Massachusetts gained temporary Medicaid coverage in 2014 without verification of eligibility, with the Obama and Patrick administrations using a taxpayer-funded bailout to mask the failure of the commonwealth’s disastrously malfunctioning website. (January 2014)

20.) Equal employer coverage delayed: Tax officials will not be enforcing in 2014 the mandate requiring employers to offer equal coverage to all their employees. This provision of the law was supposed to go into effect in 2010, but IRS officials have “yet to issue regulations for employers to follow.” (January 18, 2013)

21.) Employer-mandate delayed again: The administration delayed for an additional year provisions of the employer mandate, postponing enforcement of the requirement for medium-size employers until 2016 and relaxing some requirements for larger employers. Businesses with 100 or more employees must offer coverage to 70% of their full-time employees in 2015 and 95% in 2016 and beyond. (February 10, 2014)

22.) Extending subsidies to non-exchange plans: The administration released a bulletin through CMS extending subsidies to individuals who purchased health insurance plans outside of the federal or state exchanges. The bulletin also requires retroactive coverage and subsidies for individuals from the date they applied on the marketplace rather than the date they actually enrolled in a plan. (February 27, 2014)

23.) Non-compliant health plans get two year extension: The administration pushed forward by two years the deadline requiring health insurers to cancel plans that are not compliant with ACA mandates. These “illegal” plans can be offered until 2017. This extension prevented a wave of cancellation notices from going out before the 2014 midterm elections. (March 5, 2014)

24.) Reducing cost sharing reductions. The ACA calls for out-of-pocket maximums to be lowered for enrollees with incomes between 100-400% FPL (Sec. 1402), but the provision proved unworkable for those 250-400% of FPL in combination with prescribed actuarial value requirements. The law was changed through regulation to apply to only those 100-250% of poverty. (March 11, 2014)

25.) Delaying the sign–up deadline: The administration delayed until mid-April the March 31 deadline to sign up for insurance without penalty. Applicants simply need to check a box on their application to qualify for this extended sign-up period. (March 26, 2014)

26.) Canceling Medicare Advantage cuts: The administration canceled further scheduled cuts to Medicare Advantage. The ACA calls for $200 billion in cuts to Medicare Advantage over 10 years. (April 7, 2014)

27.) More Funds for Insurer Bailout: The administration said it will supplement risk corridor payments to health insurance plans with “other sources of funding” if the higher risk profile of enrollees means the plans would lose money. (May 16, 2014)

28.) Exempting U.S. territories: Despite earlier administration claims that “HHS is not authorized to choose which provisions [of the ACA] might apply to the territories,” HHS waived six major requirements – such as guaranteed issue, community rating, and essential benefit mandates – that were causing serious disruption to health insurance markets covering 4.5 million residents of U.S. territories. (July 18, 2014)

29.) Failure to enforce abortion restrictions. A GAO report found that many exchange insurance plans don’t separate charges for abortion services as required by the ACA, showing the administration is not enforcing the law. In 2014, abortions were being financed with taxpayer funds in more than 1,000 exchange plans. (Sept. 16, 2014)

30.) Risk Corridor coverage: The Obama administration plans to illegally distribute risk corridor payments to insurers, despite studies by both the Congressional Research Service and the GAO saying a congressional appropriation is required before federal agencies can make the payments. (Sept. 30, 2014)

31.) Transparency of coverage: CMS delays statutory requirements on insurance companies to disclose data on the number of people enrolled, disenrollment, number of claims denied, costs to consumers of certain services, etc. (Oct. 20, 2014)

32.) Tax penalty pass: Taxpayers who filed returns based upon inaccurate subsidy data they received from the federal government will not have to repay the government if they received too large of a subsidy, the IRS ruled. (February 24, 2015)

Changes By Congress, Signed By President Obama:

33.) Military benefits: Congress clarified that plans provided by TRICARE, the military’s health-insurance program, constitutes minimal essential health-care coverage as required by the ACA; its benefits and plans wouldn’t normally meet ACA requirements. (April 26, 2010)

34.) VA benefits: Congress also clarified that health care provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs constitutes minimum essential health-care coverage as required by the ACA. (May 27, 2010)

35.) Drug-price clarification: Congress modified the definition of average manufacturer price (AMP) to include inhalation, infusion, implanted, or injectable drugs that are not generally dispensed through a retail pharmacy. (August 10, 2010)

36.) Doc-fix tax: Congress modified the amount of premium tax credits that individuals would have to repay if they are over-allotted, an action designed to help offset the costs of the postponement of cuts in Medicare physician payments called for in the ACA. (December 15, 2010)

37.) Extending the adoption credit: Congress extended the nonrefundable adoption tax credit, which happened to be included in the ACA, through tax year 2012. (Dec. 17, 2010)

38.) TRICARE for adult children: Congress extended TRICARE coverage to dependent adult children up to age 26 when it had previously only covered those up to the age of 21 — though beneficiaries still have to pay premiums for them. (January 7, 2011)

39.) 1099 repealed: Congress repealed the paperwork (“1099”) mandate that would have required businesses to report to the IRS all of their transactions with vendors totaling $600 or more in a year. (April 14, 2011)

40.) No free-choice vouchers: Congress repealed a program, supported by Senator Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) that would have allowed “free-choice vouchers,” that The Hill warned “could lead young, healthy workers to opt out” of their employer plans, “driving up costs for everybody else.” The same law barred additional funds for the IRS to hire new agents to enforce the health-care law. (April 15, 2011)

41.) No Medicaid for well-to-do seniors: Congress saved taxpayers $13 billion by changing how the eligibility for certain programs is calculated under Obamacare. Without the change, a couple earning as much as much as $64,000 a year would have been able to qualify for Medicaid. (November 21, 2011)

42.) CO-OPs, IPAB, IRS defunded: Congress made cuts in funding to programs and agencies implementing the ACA including the IRS, and the controversial Independent Payment Advisory Board. (December 23, 2011; March 26, 2013)

43.) Slush-fund savings: Congress cut $6.25 billion from the Prevention and Public Health slush fund through 2021, and $2 billion each year thereafter. (February 22, 2012)

44.) Less cash for Louisiana: One of the tricks used to get Obamacare through the Senate was the special “Louisiana Purchase” deal to win the vote of then-Sen. Mary Landrieu. Congress saved taxpayers $2.5 billion by rescinding some funds from this deal. (February 22, 2012)

45.) CLASS Act eliminated: Congress repealed the unsustainable CLASS (Community Living Assistance Services and Supports) program of government-subsidized long-term-care insurance, which Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) dubbed a “Ponzi scheme of the first order.” (January 2, 2013)

46.) Defunding CO-OPs: Congress cut an additional $2.2 billion from the “Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan” (CO-OP), which some saw as a stealth public option, blocking creation of new government-subsidized co-op programs. Early reports showed many co-ops, which had received federal loans, had run into serious financial trouble. (January 2, 2013)

47.) Trimming the Medicare trust-fund transfer: Congress rescinded $200 million of the $500 million transfer from the Medicare Part A and Part B trust funds for the 5 year Community-Based Care Transition Program and rescinded $10 million of IPAB’s FY2013 appropriation. (March 26, 2013)

48.) Eliminating caps on deductibles for small group plans: Congress eliminated the cap on deductibles for small group plans as part of the SGR “doc fix.” This gives small businesses the freedom to offer high deductible plans that may be paired with a Health Savings Account. (April 1, 2014)

49.) Making the risk corridor program budget neutral. The Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act of 2015 provides that CMS may not transfer funds from other accounts to pay for the risk corridor program. Expenditures cannot exceed the funds collected in 2014, blocking CMS from making multi-year calculations. (December 16, 2014)

Changes By The Supreme Court:

50.) Medicaid expansion made voluntary: The court ruled it was voluntary, rather than mandatory, for states to expand Medicaid eligibility to people with incomes up to 138% of poverty by ruling the federal government couldn’t block funds for existing state Medicaid programs if states chose not to expand the program. (June 28, 2012)

51.) The individual mandate made a tax: The court determined that violating the mandate that Americans must purchase government-approved health insurance would only result in individuals’ paying a “tax,” making it, legally speaking, optional for people to comply. (June 28, 2012)


http://www.galen.org/newsletters/cha...macare-so-far/ Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
IFFY, the changes are up to 52 now. The Supreme Court of the USA ruled that states that did not set up their own website, a policyholder can receive a subsidy from the Federal government in that state.

This is no different than Medicare Part D, which helps poor seniors pay for prescriptions that they can't afford. This was signed into law by your hero BUSH43. Is Bush43 a socialist?


For all the eccie repubtards who did now about the grandfather rules for old policies, change 14 deals with that. If the health insurance companies had followed change 14, then no one would have had their policy cancelled in 2014. If someone had their policy cancelled in 2014, that was the fault of the health insurance company not the adminstration. Fact Jack.

14.) Insurance companies may offer canceled plans: The administration announced that insurance companies may reoffer plans that previous regulations had forced them to cancel. (November 14, 2013)
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IFFY, the changes are up to 52 now. The Supreme Court of the USA ruled that states that did not set up their own website, a policyholder can receive a subsidy from the Federal government in that state.

This is no different than Medicare Part D, which helps poor seniors pay for prescriptions that they can't afford. This was signed into law by your hero BUSH43. Is Bush43 a socialist?


For all the eccie repubtards who did now about the grandfather rules for old policies, change 14 deals with that. If the health insurance companies had followed change 14, then no one would have had their policy cancelled in 2014. If someone had their policy cancelled in 2014, that was the fault of the health insurance company not the adminstration. Fact Jack.

14.) Insurance companies may offer canceled plans: The administration announced that insurance companies may reoffer plans that previous regulations had forced them to cancel. (November 14, 2013) Originally Posted by flghtr65
I have plan D and it does not cover prescriptions
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I have plan D and it does not cover prescriptions Originally Posted by cptjohnstone
The plans vary in cost and coverage by state. Your plan may not cover prescriptions, but prescriptions are covered in some of the plans. The legislation signed by Bush43 is a trillion dollar entitlement.

http://www.q1medicare.com/PartD-Medi...w-by-State.php
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One last attempt to get something into your head. Ever see the term, TINSTAAFL? It means that nothing is free and if someone puts something in quotes like, "she let have sex with her for "free"" is a sarcastic way of saying that it most certainly wasn't free. Understand yet? Anything from the government is costing someone something but just not the person who thinks that they got something for "free".

My healthcare package is certainly not "FREE". Nor is anyone else's healthcare package "free". Someone else is paying the freight.
If a teacher who is single buys a policy on the government exchange and that teachers income is greater than $48,000 then the subsidy amount was $0.00. That teacher did not get any assistance from the Federal government to pay his premium. Therefore, the health insurance he bought was not "FREE" or not even part of it was "FREE". Does this clear it up for you JD? Originally Posted by flghtr65
You are hilarious. My and others health insurance cost is through the roof. The only people this bill is help is the poor and those who couldn't afford the insurance because of pre-existing conditions. The whole premise of lowering health insurance costs and increasing the number of people who have "private" insurance is a lie.
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One last attempt to get something into your head. Ever see the term, TINSTAAFL? It means that nothing is free and if someone puts something in quotes like, "she let have sex with her for "free"" is a sarcastic way of saying that it most certainly wasn't free. Understand yet? Anything from the government is costing someone something but just not the person who thinks that they got something for "free".

My healthcare package is certainly not "FREE". Nor is anyone else's healthcare package "free". Someone else is paying the freight. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
You fucking idiot. Part D and the ACA are both trillion dollar entitlements. This has been stated over and over and over again. When the Federal government spends money, who pays for it? The taxpayer. Forget about the mechanics of the ACA and STFU already.