Thought's on a SD/SB Arrangement??.....

Before joining here, I was seeing a provider on a regular basis. Exclusively. She's the one that brought up just giving her a monthly allowance that would pay het rent and some coin to play with. When I mentioned longer sessions without the damn timer going off, maybe an overnight once a month. She corrected me saying I would still be getting the same amount of time, just pay for it all at once. That's when I joined Eccie and started seeking variety.
She might be a good sugar baby, but doesn't know how to close a business deal. Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

You are better off getting a real girlfriend that you are attracted to (anyone can learn how to be a better sex partner) than a sugar baby but make sure she isn't part the hobby or any remnants of it. You can't beat hourly rates for pleasure. Everything else is taking a chance with someone who isn't on the same page with you.

First rule, make sure she has a job or goes to college or something. Originally Posted by essence

Sounds like the average 18-25 year old girl in most cities, including Houston.

I'm looking for a sb/sd relationship. 40 year old white male. I own a bar and about to open a second one. I work a million hours a week and would be nice to find someone chill and down to earth that I could hang out with once a week and have a great conversation and good time with.

I'm looking for a sb/sd relationship. 40 year old white male. I own a bar and about to open a second one. I work a million hours a week and would be nice to find someone chill and down to earth that I could hang out with once a week and have a great conversation and good time with. Originally Posted by surftx

Yeah, this is the perfect place to troll for such a thing......

I find a lot of what goes wrong in SB/SD relationships, that has also been brought to my attention (again) with some of these posts....
Is the failure of "Set expectations."

A "sugar contract" is exactly that (albeit usually without an actual contract) but both sides needs to communicate what they need.
Usually with the guys, it's the number of hours/meetings/overnights (monogamy? exclusiveness? Is she going to participate in the hobby anymore is she is currently a provider? If she isn't hobbying, will she have other sugar daddies? etc etc... )
And agreement & follow through on her part.
And a gal needs to be able to say, I need ______________ (XXXX whatever the sum total may be) without beating around the bush; I can meet this many times, I have ______ much time to spend with you. I ________ (can/can not) travel with you. I am willing to _________ (meet BCD, go out socially, go to events, any combination etc etc) I expect _________ (to be taken shopping, to be handed my allowance weekly, biweekly, monthly..... etc etc) To establish if this is a realistic expectation/standard that can be upkept on both or either ends.

Without those being established, agreed upon, and upheld... Well... it usually goes to shit. He may be expecting one thing or several and end up short & upset, and visa versa for her.
Set expectations. My advice.
Just my 2cents more.

^^^ i agree with that - it can be a dangerous game of mixing business with pleasure - so the ideals of the relationship/arrangement need to be laid out clear.

This girl might interest you...

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http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1516161

I find a lot of what goes wrong in SB/SD relationships, that has also been brought to my attention (again) with some of these posts....
Is the failure of "Set expectations."

A "sugar contract" is exactly that (albeit usually without an actual contract) but both sides needs to communicate what they need.
Usually with the guys, it's the number of hours/meetings/overnights (monogamy? exclusiveness? Is she going to participate in the hobby anymore is she is currently a provider? If she isn't hobbying, will she have other sugar daddies? etc etc... )
And agreement & follow through on her part.
And a gal needs to be able to say, I need ______________ (XXXX whatever the sum total may be) without beating around the bush; I can meet this many times, I have ______ much time to spend with you. I ________ (can/can not) travel with you. I am willing to _________ (meet BCD, go out socially, go to events, any combination etc etc) I expect _________ (to be taken shopping, to be handed my allowance weekly, biweekly, monthly..... etc etc) To establish if this is a realistic expectation/standard that can be upkept on both or either ends.

Without those being established, agreed upon, and upheld... Well... it usually goes to shit. He may be expecting one thing or several and end up short & upset, and visa versa for her.
Set expectations. My advice.
Just my 2cents more. Originally Posted by FoxyNC

I bet when you turn a trick you cannot keep your mouth shut.

I bet when you turn a trick you cannot keep your mouth shut. Originally Posted by lookn4boobies

Nope!

Need a corn dog for that....

I might... I mean I left my magnifying glass at home....

First mistake is to think there is any similarity between sb and provider, and that a girl (or guy) can cross over.

Second mistake is to make categories and try to pigeon hole people.

In general, I go on seeking arrangement, only 1 out of 10 are my type, only 1 out of 10 of my type pass the filters (correct body shape, not a princess, not a professional sb).

The ones who pass those filters will get a message. A bit of conversation then filters down to 1 in 10 again. So, that leaves one or two who are worth meeting. Most do not pass that hurdle, some we both agree to become intimate immediately (I am a gentleman, I cannot refuse), some we agree to have a couple of meetings before going any further (these normally turn out best) and some we get on fine as friends, but the intimate side doesn't seem to progress, not from a lack of desire from my side.

So, it is quite a lot of work, but the rewards can make it worthwhile. I am fine being alone for 6 months if it means I can find somebody who really clicks.

I always tell potential sb's that I am not looking for a sb, I hate the whole concept of sd/sb, it is demeaning on both sides. I am not paying for sex or companionship, it is not a business transaction.

Why don't I find a gf? Because I don't want somebody around all the time, and I like girls less than half my age, marriage and kids are not on the agenda.

See my first sentence again.

ps. there is (or at least was) a whole forum on this topic, but don't believe everything written there, and I think it is men only. Some guys just play games.

Interesting ^^^^. Do u hobby inbetween sbabies or never stop seeing providers Mr. E?

I stopped seeing providers. Haven't seen one for some years. I want somebody I can spend time with, dinner, relax, cuddle, sleep, cuddle, breakfast, work, cuddle....

At one time I wanted to see a different provider every day, but maybe I'm getting old, a day long session once a week is fine. One of my current friends really does insist on a minimum of 4 hours fucking But we only see each other now and then, maybe twice a month.

I think I have a situation similar to what you're describing. I have a client who pays me monthly and I see him once a week, if he has time we do an overnight here and there but it is rare tbh. We have dinner or go to the movies, I enjoy his company so it works for both of us. It took several months to develop this relationship and the trust needed to pay me up front but it is possible.