Who won the first debate?

She was prepared, he wasn't. I think he was surprised at her resilience and as the debate went on, he became more agitated and impatient. And frankly, rude to the moderator (surprise!), lol.

I do think there were more questions biased in her favor. Nothing on the Clinton Foundation, her huge speaking fees to the likes of Gold in Sacks, or a more detailed discussion on Libya or Benghazi.

Trump could have pounded Hillary on this; he didn't because...he doesn't come across as a thoughtful, public speaker. Oh well... Originally Posted by Prolongus

Well, the moderator was hitting him from behind. Trump should have laid him out like he did in the GOP debates.

Trump was reserved and focused on the issues.

Hillary was everything she says Trump is. Insulting. Demeaning. A liar.

Another Trump win.

Trump was reserved and focused on the issues.

Hillary was everything she says Trump is. Insulting. Demeaning. A liar.

Another Trump win. Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Clinton debated, Trump whined, bitched and tried to bully her. She kicked his orange ass and he squealed loudly.

Hate to break it to you, but it's going to be hard to stay in your bubble when you got a prick like Trump.

Well, the moderator was hitting him from behind. Trump should have laid him out like he did in the GOP debates. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The moderator had very little to do with that debate JDrunk. In fact, Drumpf disrespectfully put his hand in the moderator's face a number of times, refusing to follow the rules of the debate and disrespecting the time allotments.

He tried to turn it into a circus and even a shouting match.

He exaggerated, lied and whined about the media. He even whined about HRC's media campaign.

What a puto!

But I agree that he didn't lose any votes. Clinton most certainly gained votes.

Take your beating and move on to the next one ... Assuming Drumpfmdowsnt back out.

Be surprised then. Every focus group of undecideds I saw had HRC moving the needle.

Drumpf fucked himself up towards the end of the first exchange and then defaulted back to the big ignorant bully he's always been.

He treated the moderator disrespectfully and interrupted Clibton on numerous occasions.

Sad. Very sad. Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Vote for the puppet of your choice. These people don't know what they are doing and they don't care either.

Jim

One thing Trump has going for him is his lemmings don't care if he wins or loses.

No teleprompter, sounded like the manafort days...

The third choice (and the right choice) is that neither side hurt themselves with their supporters. Did anyone move the great undecided group? Maybe a few but not enough to move the needle. The intangibles are did Trump look presidential? Yes, he did. Did he look crazy? Nope. Did Hillary look sick? Not this time. Did she get caught up in a bald faced lie? Yes, a couple of times on TPP and her Wallstreet connections. Her supporters won't care and the undecided don't have a knowledge base to recognize the lie.

One thing that was surprising but shouldn't have been....the moderator was protecting Hillary and acting as her surrogate in attacking Trump.

Maybe they gave Gary a bump.

Stop and Frisk WAS ruled unconstitutional by a New York district court judge:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-p...utional-228729

Whether or not it would have been appealed is debatable. Originally Posted by Prolongus

Yes, but the only ruling of "unconstitutional" that counts is from the Supremes.

If Mr Holt was a good moderator, he would have stated a New York US District Judge found it unconstitutional, and noted the US Supreme Court never heard it.

Trump should have noted the Supreme Court never heard the case or ruled on it.

Therefore, outside of that District Court, stop and frisk is doable, not that I think it is a great idea for a freedom lover such as myself.

Vote for the puppet of your choice. These people don't know what they are doing and they don't care either.

Jim Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Holy Shit- after months of having Trump's cock in your mouth now you say both of them are losers? You are the real loser Jim.

Yes, but the only ruling of "unconstitutional" that counts is from the Supremes.

If Mr Holt was a good moderator, he would have stated a New York US District Judge found it unconstitutional, and noted the US Supreme Court never heard it.

Trump should have noted the Supreme Court never heard the case or ruled on it.

Therefore, outside of that District Court, stop and frisk is doable, not that I think it is a great idea for a freedom lover such as myself. Originally Posted by DSK

That is correct.

Let's face it- Clinton won and stopped much of Trump's momentum which honestly had going for himself- here's the issue- come the 2nd debate it's do or die for Trump. Trump was being Trump- the Trump you saw yesterday was the Trump that you saw in the primaries and the Trump that appeals to his base, however the problem is Trump has to appeal to the undecided voters and the Trump that showed up last night was not appealing to the undecided.
If he tries to reverse the Trend and change the tone for the next debate he will look out of his element- just take a look at the video from Mexico- anyone listening to that speech- although he sounded very Presidential- it just wasn't him, it wasn't his true persona- Trump is fucked!

Was watching MNF but caught in on YouTube this morning.

I think Trump nailed it on the business issues.

It was actually better than I expected. Looking forward to the next one.

Was watching MNF but caught in on YouTube this morning.

I think Trump nailed it on the business issues.

It was actually better than I expected. Looking forward to the next one. Originally Posted by hittinit

Did you watch the other 80 minutes of it? Trump only look good the first 2 questions and then it went all downhill. He gave Hillary ammo in the debate to use for ADS--- I don't pay taxes because I am smart and not paying workers is called business- not good Trump.