Trump class act Obama never was.

Hey, Masterdickmuncher, BL and Licky-dick-4-fun!

Read your own fucking sources, you illiterate jackasses!

The mission was already vetted by Odumbo, you quibbling morons.

The ONLY reason -- per the fuckin' articles you're citing -- Odumbo didn't give the go-ahead on or about 10 January (near a Full Moon phase) was because the military advisers proposing the raid insisted that it be scheduled on a night with minimum moonlight, and the next New Moon phase, 27 January, wouldn't happen until after Trump took office, you disingenuous liars.

Take your petty, dissembling BS and shove it up your collective asses sideways!

Hey, Masterdickmuncher, BL and Licky-dick-4-fun!

Read your own fucking sources, you illiterate jackasses!

The mission was already vetted by Odumbo, you quibbling morons.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It's a good thing they're not fish. The snap at anything.

I'd love to see these punks get in Mattis's face with that shit!

And here is the rest of the story

US military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support, or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced Al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger-than-expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists. Originally Posted by BigLouie

And here is the rest of the rest of the story; In an operation planned during Obama's waning days the "human shields" of local women picked up weapons and began firing at the assualting force. This doubled the fire power that the SEAL Team anticipated engaging. Original planning required a moonless night which would not occur until after Trump took giving Trump the final say in an operation planned by professionals long before Trump became President. Obama was unable to pull the trigger on the operation (unlike issuing regulations, unwise pardons, nominations, etc) due to the fear of a high risk failure. An Osprey aircraft was damaged and had to be destroyed so that it would not fall into enemy hands intact. The biggest problem was humint and the failure to believe that the women might fight back against the attacking force.

And here is the rest of the rest of the story;

...An Osprey aircraft was damaged and had to be destroyed so that it would not fall into enemy hands intact.

The biggest problem .... the failure to believe that the women might fight back against the attacking force. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

There is always "the rest of the story" that ends up on the last page of print media and the cutting room floor in video media ...

... trashing Trump is the #1 goal on all this shit .....

Didn't hear a whimper about the lost helicopter in the OBL raid!

Do you mean to tell us that WOMEN resisted the Seal Team, and they had children with them? Do tell? Would that be the WOMEN and CHILDREN who are the topic of ridicule by the Liberals because Conservatives want to VET THEM before the enter the U.S. Why should they be "vetted"? They are just HARMLESS WOMEN and CHILDREN!!!!!

Let's see: A woman with a child participated in the Bernardino massacre. A woman facilitated the massacre at the club in Florida!

What on Earth were WOMEN and CHILDREN doing at a HEAVILY ARMED TERRORIST CAMP?

Here is another view point

Trump, for his part, didn’t even watch his very first military operation as commander in chief from the situation room. Perhaps, as during the Vietnam war, he had better things to do. Originally Posted by BigLouie

Well, certainly glad you brought up the issue of "draft dodging"!



Bill's on the left side of the photo ... the one with the beard!

October 1993: https://www.theguardian.com/world/19....simontisdall1

"The sight of an American soldier's bound corpse being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu by a cheering crowd and a videotape of a captured US pilot appeared to mark a turning point yesterday for the US intervention in Somalia .
The gruesome parade was a jolting reminder to Americans of the public mangling of US soldiers' bodies in Iran after Jimmy Carter's failed 1980 attempt to rescue the US embassy hostages in Tehran."

And speaking of killing WOMEN and CHILDREN: April 1993



Just burn them up! Right Bill? About 20 children!!!!

I suppose you expressed your OUTRAGE .. even though no internet?

Now your last NONMILITARY HERO .... Obaminable authorized this "raid"!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_C...in_Afghanistan

"On 6 August 2011, a U.S. Boeing CH-47 Chinook military helicopter was shot down while transporting a quick reaction force attempting to reinforce an engaged unit of Army Rangers in Wardak province, west of Kabul, Afghanistan.[6][7] The resulting crash killed all 38 people on board—25 American special operations personnel, five United States Army National Guard and Army Reserve crewmen, seven Afghan commandos, and one Afghan interpreter—as well as a U.S. military working dog.[8][9][10][11]"

Oh, the CH-47 Chinook was lost also. Real tragedy the helicopter was lost too, wasn't it? Obaminable probably was playing up to the 15th when it happened.

And here is the rest of the story

US military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support, or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced Al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger-than-expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists. Originally Posted by BigLouie

Cite?
From BigLiar? That's rich.

I think it's high time a total war be declared on Soros. Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Drone strike his ass. Preferably in California.

And you got this "inside" information from where? Originally Posted by LexusLover

Where he gets most of his inside info, he pulls it out of his ass.

Here is another view point


There was the chaotic operation in Yemen, approved at dinner with the help of the president’s caretaker son-in-law (a 35-year-old real estate developer), a Muslim-hating, Putin-loving military intelligence washout now exacting his revenge on the military establishment that turfed him out, and a right wing demagogue bent on a global, white Christian anti-Islamic crusade. The operation was, of course, a tragic failure, resulting in the deaths of a Navy SEAL and an 8-year-old girl, plus countless other civilians. Trump, for his part, didn’t even watch his very first military operation as commander in chief from the situation room. Perhaps, as during the Vietnam war, he had better things to do. Originally Posted by BigLouie

The most intellectually disingenuous poster in the PoliTard forum, BigLiar.

...

Oh, the CH-47 Chinook was lost also. Real tragedy the helicopter was lost too, wasn't it? Obaminable probably was playing up to the 15th when it happened. Originally Posted by LexusLover

How much is a drone? Now that Obama is out of office the press is worried about collateral damage. And killing Americans. Too bad the dead soldier wasn't Bowe Bergdahl.

Hey, Masterdickmuncher, BL and Licky-dick-4-fun!

Read your own fucking sources, you illiterate jackasses!

The mission was already vetted by Odumbo, you quibbling morons.

The ONLY reason -- per the fuckin' articles you're citing -- Odumbo didn't give the go-ahead on or about 10 January (near a Full Moon phase) was because the military advisers proposing the raid insisted that it be scheduled on a night with minimum moonlight, and the next New Moon phase, 27 January, wouldn't happen until after Trump took office, you disingenuous liars.

Take your petty, dissembling BS and shove it up your collective asses sideways! Originally Posted by I B Hankering

It's great when you prove what a douche-bag you are. Pull out a chair, stand on it and then scream look at me. As you hang yourself.

So shut the fuck up.


Fact; Jan. 27th was last new moon.
Fact; The raid took place on Jan. 29th.
Fact; The condition for Obama's raid quoted in the article cited by both of us was "But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended."
What a douche-bag. You talk shit, then you lie and you finish up with lies about us. Even if you try to weasel by saying minimum moonlight and no moonlight are the same thing it doesn't matter because the raid was done on a day that had neither,
You lying, stupid piece of shit. That's why I keep you on ignore. Thank your bitch for quoting you so I could see it.

It's a good thing they're not fish. The snap at anything.

I'd love to see these punks get in Mattis's face with that shit! Originally Posted by LexusLover

What? That they didn't go in on the quoted conditions?

"But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night (that was the 27th, not the 29th)and the next one would come after his term had ended."

Once again the punk ass bitch is too sloppy and lazy to do his own research.
You get mad and you want his bullshit to be true, so badly you can taste the cum he is always babbling about

It's great when you prove what a douche-bag you are. Pull out a chair, stand on it and then scream look at me. As you hang yourself.

So shut the fuck up.


Fact; Jan. 27th was last new moon.
Fact; The raid took place on Jan. 29th.
Fact; The condition for Obama's raid quoted in the article cited by both of us was "But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended."
What a douche-bag. You talk shit, then you lie and you finish up with lies about us. Even if you try to weasel by saying minimum moonlight and no moonlight are the same thing it doesn't matter because the raid was done on a day that had neither,
You lying, stupid piece of shit. That's why I keep you on ignore. Thank your bitch for quoting you so I could see it.

What? That they didn't go in on the quoted conditions?

"But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night (that was the 27th, not the 29th)and the next one would come after his term had ended."

Once again the punk ass bitch is too sloppy and lazy to do his own research.
You get mad and you want his bullshit to be true, so badly you can taste the cum he is always babbling about.

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

FACT: The raid took place on 28 January 2017, masterdickmuncher, and D-Day 1944 was originally scheduled for June 5th, but other factors came into play preventing the go-ahead on the optimum date, you equivocating jackass. And the minimal moonlight on 28 January was far from being nearly as bright as the moonlight Odumbo, et al, had to contend with on January 10, masterdickmuncher.

Once again your bitchy punk-ass is too sloppy and lazy to do your own research correctly. So, pull out a chair, stand on it and then scream as you hang yourself, masterdickmuncher. So shut the fuck up as you stifle yourself, masterdickmuncher.

It's great when you prove what a douche-bag you are. Pull out a chair, stand on it and then scream look at me. As you hang yourself.

So shut the fuck up.


Fact; Jan. 27th was last new moon.
Fact; The raid took place on Jan. 29th.
Fact; The condition for Obama's raid quoted in the article cited by both of us was "But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended."
What a douche-bag. You talk shit, then you lie and you finish up with lies about us. Even if you try to weasel by saying minimum moonlight and no moonlight are the same thing it doesn't matter because the raid was done on a day that had neither,
You lying, stupid piece of shit. That's why I keep you on ignore. Thank your bitch for quoting you so I could see it.


What? That they didn't go in on the quoted conditions?

"But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night (that was the 27th, not the 29th)and the next one would come after his term had ended."

Once again the punk ass bitch is too sloppy and lazy to do his own research.
You get mad and you want his bullshit to be true, so badly you can taste the cum he is always babbling about Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

The resident Monday-Morning military strategist with a major in meteorology pretending to be qualified to criticize the Secretary of Defense and the Administration's national intelligence team. Too bad you weren't around to advise Clinton or Obaminable on their tragic military decisions in which special ops heroes were killed and women and children were slaughtered on our own soil in an attack on a religious group!

Well, certainly glad you brought up the issue of "draft dodging"!



Bill's on the left side of the photo ... the one with the beard!

October 1993: https://www.theguardian.com/world/19....simontisdall1

"The sight of an American soldier's bound corpse being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu by a cheering crowd and a videotape of a captured US pilot appeared to mark a turning point yesterday for the US intervention in Somalia .
The gruesome parade was a jolting reminder to Americans of the public mangling of US soldiers' bodies in Iran after Jimmy Carter's failed 1980 attempt to rescue the US embassy hostages in Tehran."

And speaking of killing WOMEN and CHILDREN: April 1993



Just burn them up! Right Bill? About 20 children!!!!

I suppose you expressed your OUTRAGE .. even though no internet?

Now your last NONMILITARY HERO .... Obaminable authorized this "raid"!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_C...in_Afghanistan

"On 6 August 2011, a U.S. Boeing CH-47 Chinook military helicopter was shot down while transporting a quick reaction force attempting to reinforce an engaged unit of Army Rangers in Wardak province, west of Kabul, Afghanistan.[6][7] The resulting crash killed all 38 people on board—25 American special operations personnel, five United States Army National Guard and Army Reserve crewmen, seven Afghan commandos, and one Afghan interpreter—as well as a U.S. military working dog.[8][9][10][11]"

Oh, the CH-47 Chinook was lost also. Real tragedy the helicopter was lost too, wasn't it? Obaminable probably was playing up to the 15th when it happened. Originally Posted by LexusLover

Stop fucking crying and making excuses.
It's generally bad when civilians are killed. It's always bad when our troops are killed. We're going to have casualties, They belong to the president in office when they occur. Not only did you make sure Obama got the bill for every negative aspect of the war, your punk-ass-bitch self tried to take away the other side of that coin. The successes. The sitting president gets both. Your non-military service self is not qualified and way too biased to be comparing and judging the operations. You're welcome to have an opinion but don't think it's more than an opinion.

Well, certainly glad you brought up the issue of "draft dodging"!



Bill's on the left side of the photo ... the one with the beard!

October 1993: https://www.theguardian.com/world/19....simontisdall1

"The sight of an American soldier's bound corpse being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu by a cheering crowd and a videotape of a captured US pilot appeared to mark a turning point yesterday for the US intervention in Somalia .
The gruesome parade was a jolting reminder to Americans of the public mangling of US soldiers' bodies in Iran after Jimmy Carter's failed 1980 attempt to rescue the US embassy hostages in Tehran."

And speaking of killing WOMEN and CHILDREN: April 1993



Just burn them up! Right Bill? About 20 children!!!!

I suppose you expressed your OUTRAGE .. even though no internet?

Now your last NONMILITARY HERO .... Obaminable authorized this "raid"!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_C...in_Afghanistan

"On 6 August 2011, a U.S. Boeing CH-47 Chinook military helicopter was shot down while transporting a quick reaction force attempting to reinforce an engaged unit of Army Rangers in Wardak province, west of Kabul, Afghanistan.[6][7] The resulting crash killed all 38 people on board—25 American special operations personnel, five United States Army National Guard and Army Reserve crewmen, seven Afghan commandos, and one Afghan interpreter—as well as a U.S. military working dog.[8][9][10][11]"

Oh, the CH-47 Chinook was lost also. Real tragedy the helicopter was lost too, wasn't it? Obaminable probably was playing up to the 15th when it happened. Originally Posted by LexusLover

The resident Monday-Morning military strategist with a major in meteorology pretending to be qualified to criticize the Secretary of Defense and the Administration's national intelligence team. Too bad you weren't around to advise Clinton or Obaminable on their tragic military decisions in which special ops heroes were killed and women and children were slaughtered on our own soil in an attack on a religious group! Originally Posted by LexusLover

Munch ... go sit on the porch for the next 4 years ... and let the grownups Make America Safe Again!

It's ok with Munch if Bill and HillaryNoMore burn women and children to death on U.S. soil and allow fine Marines to get slaughtered and mutilated AND for Obaminable to kill 25-30 special ops guys with their incompetence as draft dodgers and nonmilitary experience!

Here's a little side tidbit. Operation Torch (the invasion of North Africa) took place on Sunday, November 8th, 1942 on a moonless night. The democrats who ran the Congress begged FDR to luanch the attack before Tuesday which was an election day. They wanted to be able to brag about how the democrats had invaded Africa. To his credit FDR put the lives of the men involved at a higher value than the democratic party. Lets just say that the democrats haven't changed much in the last 70 + years.

Here's a little side tidbit. Operation Torch (the invasion of North Africa) took place on Sunday, November 8th, 1942 on a moonless night. The democrats who ran the Congress begged FDR to luanch the attack before Tuesday which was an election day. They wanted to be able to brag about how the democrats had invaded Africa. To his credit FDR put the lives of the men involved at a higher value than the democratic party. Lets just say that the democrats haven't changed much in the last 70 + years. Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Another perspective is ....

.. Obaminable elected not to run this gamble on his watch (and thereby tarnish his "legacy" even more), but put the "plan" on the shelf until Trump was sworn to pass off the raid to him in the event it went bad .... That scenario fits better with what has been happening the past 2-3 months.

On top of that ... the "intelligence" handed to Trump was generated and developed by the Obaminable Team and not the Trump Team and based upon the history of the Obaminable Team was either flawed or intentionally edited by the Obaminable Team (remember those were the guys who called ISIS "JV" and have been reporting they are defeating ISIS).

Given the extraordinary UNAMERICAN and UNPATRIOTIC behavior of Obaminable post-election the likelihood of him creating a "fail" situation for Trump early in his administration IS most likely ... as opposed to all this gibberish about "moon" ... some of these armchair Special Ops Pundits posting on here have been watching too much TV and playing too much Nintendo....and they've become EXCELLENT MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACKS!

You wear defeat like you've worn it many times before. Since there are no facts that change our positions, I'm releasing you back to insignificance.

Alternate fACT: The raid took place on 28 January 2017, masterdickmuncher, and D-Day 1944 was originally scheduled for June 5th, but other factors came into play preventing the go-ahead on the optimum date, you equivocating jackass.Not even a good try. It (DDay)has nothing to do with this. Here is a simple fact. A reason doesn't matter, tranny boy. It didn't happen on the 27 And the minimal moonlight on 28 January was far from being nearly as bright as the moonlight Odumbo, et al, had to contend with on January 10, The day they didn't run it or had never intended to run it? Jan 12 was a full moon asswipe


Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Right back at you, sperm breath.
The answer looks obvious. These sources reported the date in Yemen when the raid occurred. Stars and Stripes used the local time zone of the reporter. Easy to understand " in the very early hours of the morning last Sunday",
But it still doesn't matter because the 28th isn't the 27th, the moonless night called for by the Obama plan.
From NPR
The tribal delegation visiting Sheikh Abdelraouf al-Dhahab was still talking in the very early hours of the morning last Sunday when his nephew, Abdullah, noticed strangers approaching on foot across the rocky, inhospitable terrain of central Yemen

From NYTimes
With two of his closest advisers, Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, joining the dinner at the White House along with Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Mr. Trump approved sending in the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, hoping the raid early last Sunday would scoop up cellphones and laptop computers that could yield valuable clues

From CNN
Washington (CNN)New details have emerged surrounding Sunday's deadly joint US-United Arab Emirates counterterrorism raid on an al Qaeda compound in Yemen, shedding light on why the mission happened when it did -- and what went wrong.

From The guardian
President Donald Trump personally approved a US commando raid in Yemen that left one elite serviceman dead and may have killed an eight-year-old American girl, the US military has told the Guardian.
At least 14 people died in Sunday’s raid by the elite Joint Special Operations Command, which was the subject of a preliminary inquiry to determine if allegations of civilian deaths were sufficiently credible to merit a full

You wear defeat .... Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

.. speaking of losers ... when are you going to concede?

You and HillaryNoMore are the "defeated ones"!

"Cut and Paste" Boy!

You're getting worse than BigTex ...and that's awful!

Go watch some more TV and play some Nintendo games!

Let Mattis, Kelly, and Flynn plan the military operations.

All this pansy whining and blubbering is emboldening our enemies!

They are getting the false impression that the U.S. is a bunch of pussies like you, and Luke Warm.